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meltdowner
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Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers
#25911103 - 04/02/19 07:57 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I put my still air box on a window sill I built out for my cat. It was in direct sunlight when I was doing the transfers, my idea was it will simply be easier to see. However, a month later every single one of the 25 jars I did transfers to were successful, 0 contams. I'm almost in disbelief.
The previous 5 times I used my SAB I had contams on about 25% of my transfers.
I wonder, sunlight does kill contams, right? Wouldn't it make sense that since I did the transfer in direct sunlight that anything that may have been left in the SAB got killed while floating around in there?
I have changed nothing but the location of the SAB and have been making transfers in it for over a year. Could I have gotten better? Maybe, but I really don't think that's the case.
Just wanted to share.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: meltdowner] 1
#25911111 - 04/02/19 08:02 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wonder, sunlight does kill contams, right? Wouldn't it make sense that since I did the transfer in direct sunlight that anything that may have been left in the SAB got killed while floating around in there?
No. You just did practiced good technique this time.
The sunlight didn't make a difference.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: Mr Piggy]
#25911171 - 04/02/19 08:35 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wonder, sunlight does kill contams, right? Wouldn't it make sense that since I did the transfer in direct sunlight that anything that may have been left in the SAB got killed while floating around in there?
No. You just did practiced good technique this time.
The sunlight didn't make a difference.
I don't think so dude, sunlight is a disinfectant.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: meltdowner]
#25911182 - 04/02/19 08:42 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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It is, it's just not effective enough to make such a difference. Your technique will make such a difference.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: meltdowner] 1
#25911217 - 04/02/19 09:02 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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meltdowner said:
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Mr Piggy said:
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meltdowner said:
I wonder, sunlight does kill contams, right? Wouldn't it make sense that since I did the transfer in direct sunlight that anything that may have been left in the SAB got killed while floating around in there?
No. You just did practiced good technique this time.
The sunlight didn't make a difference.
I don't think so dude, sunlight is a disinfectant.

person uses SAB properly, doesnt get contams ..conclusion?? worship the sun.
or you utilized the science and physics of the sab.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: meltdowner]
#25911221 - 04/02/19 09:03 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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It has merit that the sunlight helped, however it seems more likely that where you had you SAB before had a draft coming across it. Had ~35% success rate until I moved mine away from my door and windows, rates moved closer to ~75-85%.
Would be cool to do some real testing of the theory, but the number of hours spent in a lab to verify which contams are affected would be enormous, and potentially not have the results you experienced/wanted.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: mushboy]
#25911223 - 04/02/19 09:04 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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meltdowner said:
I wonder, sunlight does kill contams, right? Wouldn't it make sense that since I did the transfer in direct sunlight that anything that may have been left in the SAB got killed while floating around in there?
No. You just did practiced good technique this time.
The sunlight didn't make a difference.
I don't think so dude, sunlight is a disinfectant.

person uses SAB properly, doesnt get contams ..conclusion?? worship the sun.
or you utilized the science and physics of the sab.
Who says I didn't worship the sun before this happened?! HUH MUSHBOY? Btw I do think the sunlight played a big part in keeping things extra clean in there.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: meltdowner] 1
#25911233 - 04/02/19 09:07 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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SAB can be dirty inside. its about still air. the sun gave you proper lighting too see one could argue that direct sunlight might not be good for SAB use because it may heat the air inside the closed tote creating potential air turbulence.
im saying you are a sun worshiper because you are praising the sun instead of understanding science.
that, by definition, is sun worship.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: mushboy]
#25911255 - 04/02/19 09:20 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Exactly. Sanitizer don't do shit in a sab. Spray the walls with water and practice proper technique. Contams are supposed to stick to the walls, floor or roof. Keep hands away from being directly overhead of open media. Your goal is still air not a sterile box..
I'd bet money you have it in a place with much less drafts than you did before and that's the actual reason why it worked so well. Big open areas are tricky. Lots of air circulation, with some areas stronger than others. Ideally you want your room to be extremely still. Doing work against a wall or corner will for sure help because air is more likely to be much more still in those areas.
I like to do my work in a small room with no vents. Works great.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: mushboy]
#25911309 - 04/02/19 10:09 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I wonder, sunlight does kill contams, right? Wouldn't it make sense that since I did the transfer in direct sunlight that anything that may have been left in the SAB got killed while floating around in there?
No. You just did practiced good technique this time.
The sunlight didn't make a difference.
I don't think so dude, sunlight is a disinfectant.

person uses SAB properly, doesnt get contams ..conclusion?? worship the sun.
or you utilized the science and physics of the sab.
*worship the sun...
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: Mad Season]
#25911352 - 04/02/19 10:44 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Mad Season said: Exactly. Sanitizer don't do shit in a sab. Spray the walls with water and practice proper technique. Contams are supposed to stick to the walls, floor or roof. Keep hands away from being directly overhead of open media. Your goal is still air not a sterile box..
I'd bet money you have it in a place with much less drafts than you did before and that's the actual reason why it worked so well. Big open areas are tricky. Lots of air circulation, with some areas stronger than others. Ideally you want your room to be extremely still. Doing work against a wall or corner will for sure help because air is more likely to be much more still in those areas.
I like to do my work in a small room with no vents. Works great.
I do everything you guys say. I clean the walls and wipe them down with a sticky liquid that contains some alcohol and lysol. Been doing it the same way for a year.
The room is the same room, the only difference was location in the room. Guys to be honest I really think you should consider that the sun did help sterilize anything that may have floated off the wall.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: meltdowner] 1
#25911356 - 04/02/19 10:49 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Ever you life on a planet with some really powerful sun Or you had good tek
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: meltdowner] 3
#25911380 - 04/02/19 11:05 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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meltdowner said: I put my still air box on a window sill I built out for my cat. It was in direct sunlight when I was doing the transfers, my idea was it will simply be easier to see. However, a month later every single one of the 25 jars I did transfers to were successful, 0 contams. I'm almost in disbelief.
The previous 5 times I used my SAB I had contams on about 25% of my transfers.
I wonder, sunlight does kill contams, right? Wouldn't it make sense that since I did the transfer in direct sunlight that anything that may have been left in the SAB got killed while floating around in there?
I have changed nothing but the location of the SAB and have been making transfers in it for over a year. Could I have gotten better? Maybe, but I really don't think that's the case.
Just wanted to share.
Practice makes more sense than sunlight. Sunlight is a red herring
If sunlight were a good broad spectrum disinfectant all the bacteria on the surfaces of everything outside during the day would die and the world would go to shit
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: bodhisatta]
#25911382 - 04/02/19 11:06 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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meltdowner said: I put my still air box on a window sill I built out for my cat. It was in direct sunlight when I was doing the transfers, my idea was it will simply be easier to see. However, a month later every single one of the 25 jars I did transfers to were successful, 0 contams. I'm almost in disbelief.
The previous 5 times I used my SAB I had contams on about 25% of my transfers.
I wonder, sunlight does kill contams, right? Wouldn't it make sense that since I did the transfer in direct sunlight that anything that may have been left in the SAB got killed while floating around in there?
I have changed nothing but the location of the SAB and have been making transfers in it for over a year. Could I have gotten better? Maybe, but I really don't think that's the case.
Just wanted to share.
Practice makes more sense than sunlight. Sunlight is a red herring
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: meltdowner]
#25911425 - 04/02/19 11:28 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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meltdowner said:
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Mad Season said: Exactly. Sanitizer don't do shit in a sab. Spray the walls with water and practice proper technique. Contams are supposed to stick to the walls, floor or roof. Keep hands away from being directly overhead of open media. Your goal is still air not a sterile box..
I'd bet money you have it in a place with much less drafts than you did before and that's the actual reason why it worked so well. Big open areas are tricky. Lots of air circulation, with some areas stronger than others. Ideally you want your room to be extremely still. Doing work against a wall or corner will for sure help because air is more likely to be much more still in those areas.
I like to do my work in a small room with no vents. Works great.
I do everything you guys say. I clean the walls and wipe them down with a sticky liquid that contains some alcohol and lysol. Been doing it the same way for a year.
The room is the same room, the only difference was location in the room. Guys to be honest I really think you should consider that the sun did help sterilize anything that may have floated off the wall.
Shouldn't the other sanitizers take care of that? What makes the sun better than alcohol and Lysol? Why isn't everything that is in the sunlight dead if it's better than alcohol and Lysol?
You had a single success and think it's made a huge difference. Need more attempts before you can say things with any confidence. The differences to you are that the locations been changed and apparently your technique is the exact same. As said before moving locations probably put you in a place with much less drafts and the sunlight helped you see what you're doing
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: Mad Season]
#25911452 - 04/02/19 11:40 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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occam's razor would suggest that you just got better with your movements and sterile tek. A properly used SAB should result in near 100% success. I've left hundreds of jars, tubs, plates and bags outside in the sun and NEVER come to the conclusion that the sunlight killed the bacteria or mold. It does, however, break down my plastic tubs rather quickly.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: verum subsequentis] 1
#25911545 - 04/02/19 12:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm going to make a fortune revolutionizing waste water treatment using the sun tho.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: mushboy]
#25911699 - 04/02/19 01:55 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sunlight gives energy to everything on the planet. It doesn't have enough intense uv to do enough damage. Even if it did the magnetic field if the planet Would hinder it greatly.Quote:
mushboy said:
conclusion?? worship the sun.
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25911710 - 04/02/19 02:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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tryptkaloids said: Sunlight gives energy to everything on the planet. It doesn't have enough intense uv to do enough damage. Even if it did the magnetic field if the planet Would hinder it greatly.
Um, magnetic fields don't really do much to light. Luckily, we still have some ozone layer and atmosphere that protects us from UV radiation tho!
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Re: Still Air Box in Sunlight - 100% successful transfers [Re: poisoned] 4
#25911715 - 04/02/19 02:09 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I have mold on my window sills, and they get sun.
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