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    #25907096 - 03/31/19 01:47 AM (19 days, 19 hours ago)

The controversial trial aims to reduce anxiety about death among terminally ill patients.
Updated Updated 16 January
By Maani Truu
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Dying patients at a Melbourne hospital will be treated with magic mushrooms in a controversial trial aimed at reducing anxiety about death among terminally ill patients.

Under the St Vincent's Hospital trial, which has taken more than a year to be approved by the ethics committee and federal and state authorities, the 30 patients will be treated in April this year.

Clinical psychologist Dr Margaret Ross said patients would be given a single dose of synthetic psilocybin, the psychoactive ingredient in mushrooms, which can unlock a section of the brain, giving people an altered outlook on their situation as they approach death.

One dose can last for six months or more.

Late last year, researchers from Johns Hopkins University in the United States found that a majority of people suffering from cancer-related anxiety or depression had significant relief after taking a single, large does of psilocybin.

Six months after the study, 80 per cent of the 51 patients analysed showed significant decreases in depressed mood and anxiety, while about 60 per cent showed symptoms in the normal range.

The trial also found that participants had an increased quality of life, with 83 per cent reporting increases in wellbeing and 67 per cent reporting that the experience was one of the top five meaningful experiences in their lives.

During the trial, the drug was only given in controlled environments and under the observation of two clinically-trained monitors and the researchers did not recommend using the drug in an outside setting.

According to St Vincent's Hospital, three in every 10 palliative care patients can experience extreme distress in their final months.

https://www.sbs.com.au/news/dying-patients-to-be-given-magic-mushrooms-at-melbourne-hospital


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: OOISI]
    #25907122 - 03/31/19 02:28 AM (19 days, 18 hours ago)

It goes on and on forever man:yesnod:


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: OOISI]
    #25907225 - 03/31/19 05:33 AM (19 days, 15 hours ago)

U are just returning to prenatal nothingness. how fucking hard is it lol


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: MikeTesserect]
    #25907345 - 03/31/19 08:31 AM (19 days, 12 hours ago)

I really think they would be better off using LSD for this...


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: tacodude]
    #25907348 - 03/31/19 08:34 AM (19 days, 12 hours ago)

Quote:

One dose can last for six months or more




Poorly worded much...


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: tacodude]
    #25908005 - 03/31/19 02:52 PM (19 days, 6 hours ago)

LSD is incredibly similar to intense, long duration stimulants in addition to its psychoactive effects. That's what is was originally developed for, and is still great for in proper dosage.(what many here would call micro-dosing). Methamphetamine like stimulation with psychoactive effects lasting 12+ hours better for a dying patient?

Nah I have to strongly disagree with you on that. Natural psilocybin is wayyy more beneficial, especially under these circumstances. And in all uses for medical benefits in my opinion.


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: O_Dweeds]
    #25908284 - 03/31/19 05:38 PM (19 days, 3 hours ago)

anyone can get fucked up on any drug they want

they probably give these people like a gram at most and they do it so much the person builds up a tolerance but they have these "hallucinations" for weeks which is really just code for dreams

people used to take 300ug in a session but you know theres a lot less chance of them freaking out if there's a real doctor in the room.
source: my father was an alcoholic


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: Konyap]
    #25908378 - 03/31/19 06:40 PM (19 days, 2 hours ago)

LSD is not like meth or a stimulant... It does have dopamine activity, but that makes it more like mescaline or other phenethylamine compounds. Really if you want to nitpick mescsline probably would work too, but I haven't experienced mescaline so I can't honestly say.


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: tacodude]
    #25909042 - 04/01/19 06:39 AM (18 days, 14 hours ago)

It would be so fun to take part in this research. Not as a patient, I would prefer not to die yet.


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: OOISI]
    #25909457 - 04/01/19 12:07 PM (18 days, 8 hours ago)

Its so great that the effects can last a whole six months.If they only live for three months it works good.If they live for 7 months they are getting scared again, so they might think of a euthanasia right at the 5 month mark.This stuff seems to mean more and more to me, as I become  like the rest of the perishing hordes of old,feeble,sick,depressed, and dying.This life cycle is great until we reach the end and start reaching for the mushrooms.


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: gandalfe]
    #25909480 - 04/01/19 12:23 PM (18 days, 8 hours ago)

The whole point is a positive mindset can turn something like cancer around... It's about easing end of life anxiety to not suffer in the end and not specifically making sure they die happy. There's no reason they can't dose again


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: OOISI]
    #25909562 - 04/01/19 01:21 PM (18 days, 7 hours ago)

So, are they giving 4-ho-met?


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #25909670 - 04/01/19 02:27 PM (18 days, 6 hours ago)

??? Where did it say that. I'm pretty sure I remember another company working with a similar compound.


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: tacodude]
    #25909678 - 04/01/19 02:31 PM (18 days, 6 hours ago)

No.

Isn't it like a dmt variant??


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: Konyap]
    #25909774 - 04/01/19 03:23 PM (18 days, 5 hours ago)

"single dose of synthetic psilocybin"


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: tyrannicalrex]
    #25909781 - 04/01/19 03:25 PM (18 days, 5 hours ago)

Then that's what they're getting not otherwise it would say what psilocybin/psilocin prodrug it was


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25909788 - 04/01/19 03:27 PM (18 days, 5 hours ago)

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Then that's what they're getting not otherwise it would say what psilocybin/psilocin prodrug it was



Could you please put this less cryptically.


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #25909793 - 04/01/19 03:30 PM (18 days, 5 hours ago)

They're getting a single dose of synthetic psilocybin" not something else otherwise it would say what that something else was instead...

Are you like a million grams per cubic centimeter?


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25909799 - 04/01/19 03:33 PM (18 days, 5 hours ago)

So 4-aco-dmt then?


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Re: Dying patients to be given Psilocybes [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #25909836 - 04/01/19 03:50 PM (18 days, 5 hours ago)

No
4-po-ho-dmt


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