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Feasoghorm


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Monocultures & cloning & PE oh my!
#25904009 - 03/29/19 01:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Im still super green. Feel the strong need to know what im looking at here. Wud appreciate advice.
 Done some 40 plates in my little sab. Plates not shown have no myc yet.

 Had some interesting contams.
Prolly gonna transfer from this bugger right here:

At the moment im curious as to why these two plates have this kinda ringed growth.

Edited by Feasoghorm (04/03/19 01:55 PM)
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25904024 - 03/29/19 01:44 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Timboslice said: At the moment im curious as to why these two plates have this kinda ringed growth.
 
I've heard people say both that ringed growth is based on a light cycle (the light affects how it grows when it is on/off), also that it means possibly hidden contams.
I buy into the light cycle theory! Would love to hear other's thoughts.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25904034 - 03/29/19 01:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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You have everything from nice plates to moldy plates ... some of those you can save and others might as well toss, the very 2 on bottom might as well dump, the one you say you want to transfer has alot of strains going on and I would transfer from all around that plate... the four plates at top I would only try to save the bottom one, most of the ones in the group pic looks nice and you're just going to have to decipher the good fromc bad ...
You're far very far from an isolate but can get there with time and patience
Shaper there is myc that will push rings like that and sometimes its juts the myc but that to me looks moldy and not healthy myc
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25904046 - 03/29/19 02:00 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: Shaper there is myc that will push rings like that and sometimes its juts the myc but that to me looks moldy and not healthy myc
Yeah, I refrained from commenting on that part because I wasn't sure. It seemed likely that it wasn't good simply from the size of the myc compared to others.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: ShaperDreaming]
#25904051 - 03/29/19 02:03 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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If that was a clone I def would clean it up but if its ms and have other plates of the same def no need to even play with it ...
Shit like that is hard to tell with myc cause sometimes it is so finicky I probably have tossed healthy plates away due to them being off in my eyes .. it's just something we gotta decipher you know ?
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25904084 - 03/29/19 02:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Gotcha. Much abliged to the both of you.
Ya them four contam plates i keep above my fridge jst to see what will happen. Satisfies my inquisitive nature.
The proposed transfer plate is really where my attention is at. I made all these to learn, try isolating, and kinda jst to weed out obvious contams and tiger drop the rest in rye, and haphazardly do a tub or two with wat turns out to have only mild bac contam, jst to get some fruits going. But i may be at the point where that jst wont due for me anymore.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25904086 - 03/29/19 02:19 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: Shit like that is hard to tell with myc cause sometimes it is so finicky I probably have tossed healthy plates away due to them being off in my eyes .. it's just something we gotta decipher you know ?
Lol I'm still so new I've played out most of my plates. When I hit 100 plates I bought a box of petris, so now I have 500. I'll likely start tossing shit that looks funny.
Here's one that took me back 3 transfers after I decided... yup! I'd isolated not-mushrooms:
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: ShaperDreaming]
#25904117 - 03/29/19 02:35 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Apes hard to clean up from spores... you could do hot pours on that or a sandwich
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25904125 - 03/29/19 02:40 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: Apes hard to clean up from spores... you could do hot pours on that or a sandwich
Yeah, lol, I went back and cleaned it up well enough to get NAPES, which fucking blew my damn mind. That's my fav part of all this work, taking new routes and finding new places. Agar lead me to something I want to try to clone and isolate for good phenos. A year ago I thought mushrooms might grow from spores like plants do from seeds Weird journeys ya'll
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: ShaperDreaming]
#25907836 - 03/31/19 01:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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 Transfers are fun.
 Cud someone advise me as to wat im looking at here?..With the myc almost avoiding certain spots. Those spots have that sorta halo thing going on though, like 2mrrw morn them spots be filled in. What is that halo shiny sheen that stretches out to meet the outer myc anyway? Jst light hyphal growth that appears as a shiny halo cuz my eyes aint 25x magnification?
Ya know wat, fuck it...Imma get me some magnification today.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25907849 - 03/31/19 01:22 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I dont know what causes that I avoid those spots on transfers but I have alot of plates like that as well even the most cleanest looking plates... every plate has a small transparent ring of myc it is where the myc is colonizing... but when there are big spots of it it sketches me out ... so get the nice rhizo that's further away
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25908930 - 04/01/19 03:51 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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agreed. Or... in the name of science, also take a transfer specifically from that spot (i suspect bacteria) and see how she grows out on the new plate. I think i've done that a few hundred times but can't remember. I definitely avoid any and all fucky situations on agar as a rule of thumb. And, as stated earlier, i have learned to throw fucking ugly ms plates in the trash and not waste anymore time on them
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Gotcha.
Some transfers from the two "best" plates:
  

These appear generally healthy & clean so i'll prolly run some grain with them:

These were all nasty looking so imma tossin' em.

And these never did anything. Have no idea why. Exposed one to free air this morn, fucking coughed and kinda spat on it. Keeping it with the other contam plates. See if it even grows anything:
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25911973 - 04/02/19 04:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sometimes you can take too small of a cut and if the blade is still hot it will stunt the growth ... happens to me alot I'll try to cut too small and sizzle the myc too much Haha. .. those transfers look nice .. there are some nice plates in that batch pretty much all of them are transferable if you wanted to take them to more agar but some of those I wouldnt get near grain with
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25911980 - 04/02/19 04:55 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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if you coughed on and spat on a plat, it'll absolutely grow some shit. I tested that out. Still haven't gotten around to the semen test. I wonder if i can clone myself.
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Lol!..the semen test. Ahh that's good shit. I did, i hacked all in it like someones ill mannered shitty kid.
Them blanks jst had spores dropped on them. Hey, which ones wouldnt you go near grain with Boogie?
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25912006 - 04/02/19 05:09 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Boogieman47 said: Sometimes you can take too small of a cut and if the blade is still hot it will stunt the growth ... happens to me alot I'll try to cut too small and sizzle the myc too much Haha. .. those transfers look nice .. there are some nice plates in that batch pretty much all of them are transferable if you wanted to take them to more agar but some of those I wouldnt get near grain with
That's why you dip the blade into uncolonised agar first.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: poisoned]
#25912008 - 04/02/19 05:09 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25912014 - 04/02/19 05:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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the ones with the red dots I would def transfer again the just the yellow I dont think are too bad but I'd still transfer atleast another round ... the others I would drop
Yeah I get too excited sometimes and just dive in lmao
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25912076 - 04/02/19 05:46 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Koolsville. Got enough left to drop in grain to get some boomers going. Still waiting on that god damn PE to pump out anything more that a few side dongers.
Trash:

Imma mess with them plates that did nothing. Mine are self explanitory but my roomy isnt very "scientific"; i made him contaminate one and he put a piece of steak and a piece of garlic in it. More afraid of that one than i am the ass plate.

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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25912108 - 04/02/19 06:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those are still good to transfer dont toss them I just wouldnt put them to grain just the way the myc is growing ... you want more uniform growth and even if there is no hidden contams you cant be certain when they look that way so you still wanna isolate away ... just transfer from the more healthy looking edges
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25912234 - 04/02/19 07:33 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Meh, there really wasnt anything special about them other than they were poopoo looking. Got plenty of healthy transfers that i can grow out and fux with. Got more plates & MEA.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25912421 - 04/02/19 10:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Spawned Feb 28th. It's like it's fruiting in super slow motion.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25912439 - 04/02/19 10:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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thats how it goes with the penis. What's it cased with... and how thick? looks like you've got a pretty decent side pin going.
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1:1+ peat/verm + hyd lime bout 1/4" thick. I never mist it. Lids been flipped forever. That was the first donger to show up. There are a few little ones around the sides. None on top. It really does seem jst in slow motion. It's generally healthy, smells clean, moving along with the appearance of side pins...jst super slow.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25912576 - 04/03/19 12:12 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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First round of PE6. Straight to fruiting 1 1/2 weeks ago.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Ozurescens]
#25912768 - 04/03/19 04:33 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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"straight to spawn" ..... um.... meaning MS syringe to grain? I think there is a better way to communicate whatever it is you are trying to communicate.
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I took it as he meant spawn to fruiting? But only he knows Haha
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25914539 - 04/03/19 10:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Hehe "That word you keep saying...I dnt thnk it means what you thnk it means".
Hey how yall dry your grain after it's simmered?
I jst made some rye for the "dirty" tub, and tried like hell to get that shit dry cuz i always have wet ass spawn. Not bacterial, jst unnecessarily wet.
I drain the grain soak off and dump the berries onto a big tub lid. Prop it up fan height and blast it, folding the large mound of grain to expose the wet ones. Fucking berries bailing off the sides. Not good enough. Almost gotta make some large frame with a screen stretched across it. Must get better!!
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25914570 - 04/03/19 11:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I use a big ass screen that I made but I dry 50# bags at a time .. do you have an Asian mart near you ? You can get those big ass colanders or buy some window screen I used 18x14 but I think you could find a screen with bigger holes... this one only would dry maybe 15lbs mayne less I mean I would put more on it but to get it dried good you want less on it
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25914575 - 04/03/19 11:14 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Timboslice said: Hehe "That word you keep saying...I dnt thnk it means what you thnk it means".
Hey how yall dry your grain after it's simmered?
I jst made some rye for the "dirty" tub, and tried like hell to get that shit dry cuz i always have wet ass spawn. Not bacterial, jst unnecessarily wet.
I drain the grain soak off and dump the berries onto a big tub lid. Prop it up fan height and blast it, folding the large mound of grain to expose the wet ones. Fucking berries bailing off the sides. Not good enough. Almost gotta make some large frame with a screen stretched across it. Must get better!!
Rye? I boil for 30 min and it practically dries itself in 5 min when I spread it out on the mesh net 
Always end up with fully hydrated grains that break up individually even if I just tilt the jar. How do you prep your rye?
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25914625 - 04/04/19 12:21 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yeah imma make me one of them screen deals. Their boiling before they get dumped, and the top ones dry. Bet a screen thing wud be perfect.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25914633 - 04/04/19 12:30 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Yes straight to fruiting lol
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Ozurescens]
#25915290 - 04/04/19 10:27 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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i use wbs. rinse a time or to and then soak in hot water while i boil enough to cover the grain. Once boiling i turn off the heat and pour the hot soak water off the grains (these are in five gallon buckets). Then i pour in the boiled water and cover. let soak 1 to 2 hours and then dump in my huge colander. Let sit until it quits dripping then spread out on the garage floor with a fan blowing on it. With this prep it's literally fine to take it straight from the colander once it quits dripping but i like to let it air dry for an hour or so because i go to bags @ a gallon of spawn each and then noc them up with 20 cc LC.
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WBS eh? I was thnking of tryin oats maybe. Was checking out bod's oat tek.
Turned the tub. Got some more side dongers over here. See a few side pins. None up top yet:
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25919785 - 04/06/19 05:02 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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7 out if 8 transfers doing well. One looks shit:

Left over B+ plates to grain, colonizing well:
 
These two finally showed growth. The ass plate i really feel is a biohazard:

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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25919804 - 04/06/19 05:11 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Those last 2 plates both are contamed the others look really good alot better then before ... still need to do a few more in some of those but those are gonna be good man
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25919808 - 04/06/19 05:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Please tell me you swabbed your ass and streaked that plate. HA! yeah, that's a whole lot of bacteria.
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#25919817 - 04/06/19 05:17 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Lol i wiped my ass with a paper towel and wiped the petri with the ass paper. Right after i took a duke too.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25919826 - 04/06/19 05:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Haha I didnt even read the damn label just from a glance I thought it was cambo and ass cause it was bacterial lmao
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#25919828 - 04/06/19 05:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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man, you've got a bacterial ass! I've been wanting to do that for years.
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Lol ahhh that's good stuff. Im gonna do a normal ass plate cuz i swear my ass is cleaner than that. I normally touch up with a lysol wipe. That was strait animal-in-the-forest type shit. My roomy saw me do it and now he can never unsee my shitty ass wipe paper lol
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25919874 - 04/06/19 05:50 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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It doesn't matter how well you clean your ass. I've gone to town on my gloved finger with iso and touched a plate. Guess what.... bacterial like a mofo. Bottom line is the world is horribly horribly contaminated. But it's ok because nature deals with it very effectively. Nothing from the outer world will ever be clean enough to put on agar unless you heat the fuck out of it Or sterilize with some other tek that i'm not familiar with... like gamma irradiation.
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Wat you want me to grow nxt? haha
I wonder if one cud affix a scalpel or exacto blade to a soldering iron, so that you cud hit a switch with your foot to heat it up red hot and turn it off.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25919892 - 04/06/19 06:05 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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of course. anything is possible.
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Shook yesterday. Colonizing extra fast due to the 2:1 puck to jar ratio, thnk imma stick with it:

Making clean myc for spawn, and technically a transfer closer to a monoculture, even though im not really too interested in that anymore. Hoping to get some good clones and work with that:

Growth from one of yesterdays transfers:

Wtf is up with this? Why is it growing like that? Every plate i transfered from looks like this. It's not jst where i cut it. Why? Am i choking out the myc by wrapping saran round the outside?
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25923784 - 04/08/19 07:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Timboslice said: Wtf is up with this? Why is it growing like that? Every plate i transfered from looks like this. It's not jst where i cut it. Why? Am i choking out the myc by wrapping saran round the outside?

Are you sure you aren't taking transfers from it while sleep walking or something. Because it certainly looks like some cuts were made with a scalpel and agar looks missing in those spots.
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: poisoned]
#25927189 - 04/10/19 04:06 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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No really...wtf is going on here:

Oh and check out this colonization speed:

And more transfers:
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25927661 - 04/10/19 08:28 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Dont wirry that doesnt look bad to me I dont know how to explain it but its not from contams .. those jars look great good shit and keep those transfers up man you're going down the right path
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47]
#25929560 - 04/11/19 08:19 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I'm jst naturally curious. I was mostly hoping i wasnt doing something wrong, like choking the myc out with the saran wrap i use to affix the lid and whatnot. My guess is that it's a survival response caused by trauma.
Well so long to the ass plate & cough plate. Gotta fungus spore on there. Only a matter of time before the whole thing is white. That opake yellow growth on the cough plate is pretty interesting:
 
Swabbed one of my 16yr old dog's nasty yellow teeth. Came out cleaner than my ass:

And apparently i have a super clean nose cuz i jammed a swab up one of my nostrils for this plate and...nothing. So i swabbed the coagulated pee puddle from between the seat and tank of our crapper. I'll be keeping an eye on this one:
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm] 1
#25929646 - 04/11/19 09:10 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Timboslice said: 7 out if 8 transfers doing well. One looks shit:

Left over B+ plates to grain, colonizing well:
 
These two finally showed growth. The ass plate i really feel is a biohazard:
 


"Candida Auris, drug resistant super bug "

https://nypost.com/2019/04/06/cdc-sounds-alarm-on-resistant-superbug-fungus-after-nyc-outbreak/

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sh4d0ws
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: sh4d0ws] 2
#25929651 - 04/11/19 09:12 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Timbo's ass plate inadvertently caused a global outbreak of some nasty shit
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Boogieman47
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: sh4d0ws]
#25929690 - 04/11/19 09:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Feasoghorm


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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Boogieman47] 1
#25929734 - 04/11/19 10:18 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh no! I've got Candida Assholous!
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dmppb
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25960764 - 04/28/19 02:18 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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nice ASSembly of plates you got there !
good transfer work too bro
-------------------- ...and when you loose control ; you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: dmppb]
#25961071 - 04/28/19 05:36 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol ya like that? Everything was overun by stray fungi spores in the end. Bummed me out cuz i wanted my ass and cough plate to keep going.
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dmppb
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25961349 - 04/28/19 08:17 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Timboslice said: Lol ya like that? Everything was overun by stray fungi spores in the end. Bummed me out cuz i wanted my ass and cough plate to keep going.
what are you using to wrap them up ? and keep going ti'll what , an ass canopy ?
-------------------- ...and when you loose control ; you'll reap the harvest you have sown.
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Feasoghorm

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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: dmppb]
#25961380 - 04/28/19 08:36 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Lol idk man Fuck..an ass canopy wud at least be a canopy. I use saran wrap or glab wrap or some shit.
Continued at: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/25970668
Edited by Feasoghorm (05/03/19 06:34 PM)
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sh4d0ws
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Re: Agar porn, isolates, and rather serious undertones [Re: Feasoghorm]
#25961397 - 04/28/19 08:46 PM (5 years, 8 months ago) |
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Ass envy
Newest variety
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