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tensaisama
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: Nikanoru]
#25895073 - 03/24/19 11:57 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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I don't use the layer, spawn and the substrate is mixing. I'm very happy with the result. I wish to see results of this topic
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staytrippy420



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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: Nikanoru]
#25895206 - 03/25/19 02:53 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws said: What is in those pots? Is that just extra coir or something? or shrooms?
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Nikanoru said: I second that, are you doing grows in those pots?
Nah they are vegetables that haven't sprouted yet lol would be cool tho
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420]
#25895491 - 03/25/19 09:03 AM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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staytrippy420



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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: ShaperDreaming]
#25900636 - 03/27/19 06:01 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Update:
Coir top layer
 
Verm top layer  
No top layer
 
I introduced FAE today - on day 10. They all seem to be knotting up pretty good but I'm a little concerned with the verm layer... Its hard to tell whats going on under there lol hopefully they catch up soon. ill do another up date when I see some pins
Edit; today I check the boxes and noticed tuns of side knots on the verm boxes, might have to get a FC going and fruit them like cakes...
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Edited by staytrippy420 (03/28/19 06:02 PM)
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Mr. Funguy
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420]
#25900643 - 03/27/19 06:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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What's up with the left side of the enlarged SBs? Looks off color in the verm and no top layer...
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staytrippy420



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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: Mr. Funguy]
#25900656 - 03/27/19 06:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Sorry the lighting is a little off in my place today. There is a big ass window on the left side of the room. Usually I take pics in the evening so there is no natural lighting interfering with the pics. I should of mentioned this.
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Mr. Funguy
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420]
#25900672 - 03/27/19 06:20 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Got it.
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: Mr. Funguy]
#25904612 - 03/29/19 06:29 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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The no top layer got its first pins today.. they are the first ones spawned so the rest shouldn't be too far behind. Looks like there will be lots of side pins but thats ok.. side pins are better than no pins lol 
will edit with pics latter tonight!
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Edited by staytrippy420 (03/29/19 06:46 PM)
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Fungeyes
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420]
#25904636 - 03/29/19 06:42 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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good luck
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staytrippy420



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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: Fungeyes]
#25921833 - 04/07/19 07:04 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Fuck I shit the bed hard on this experiment... due to work and being a lazy stoner. These boxes did NOT have my full attention like they should have.. this is most likely why I had shitty results lol I will give an update here but you guys will have to just trust my word for it.
Verm casing sucks. hard to harvest without making a mess and TUNS of side/bottom fruits with the smallest yield so far. Had to harvest the first flush in batches because the fruits didn't all finish at the same time.
No casing colonized the fastest and got the biggest yield but still quite a few side/bottom pins. Hard to keep the surface conditions good with no casing. also had to harvest in batches.
The top layer did the best imo. took a little longer to fruit but almost no side/ bottom fruits. Was a full flush tho, fruits all finished at the same time. will probably use this method from now on.
With all that being said I just harvest the first flush over the past 3 days.. I think all 12 only yielded like 3 oz dry  I agologize to anyone who was looking forward to seeing pictures.. I'd like to say I'll do better next time but I don't like to make promises I can't keep lol I will come back with a full dry weight when they stop producing flushes. Again sorry for my neglect, I hope you all can forgive me lol
Edited by staytrippy420 (04/08/19 05:43 PM)
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Crackatoa
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420]
#25921846 - 04/07/19 07:14 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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fahtster
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: Crackatoa]
#25921849 - 04/07/19 07:16 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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sh4d0ws
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: fahtster] 1
#25921871 - 04/07/19 07:24 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Any pictures of your final results?
3oz is better than nothing at least !
The reason I asked about those pots is because soil and indoor plants/vegetable planters tend to be full of shit that you probably don't want sitting so close to your tubs. Mold spores, mold, bacteria, etc.
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staytrippy420



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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: sh4d0ws]
#25921892 - 04/07/19 07:36 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not really of the boxes but I will get some on the next flushes.. Idk why I only took pics of the small clusters and gnarly side fruits but here is a few to keep you guys interested lol
These are from the top layer boxes first flush.
    
Thanks for the heads up about possible contams from other near by plants sh4dows
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Edited by staytrippy420 (04/07/19 07:38 PM)
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staytrippy420



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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420]
#25923303 - 04/08/19 02:45 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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The Verm boxes are making a come back!  Still some side pins and some caps are opening early but looks like it ill be a good flush.

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Caps McGee
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420] 1
#25923555 - 04/08/19 05:11 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Caps don't open early, they're just small fruit
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staytrippy420



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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: Caps McGee]
#25923604 - 04/08/19 05:41 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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oh shit yo that. Thanks Caps. is it my fault or just shitty genetics?
I thought if the sub was too wet or too dry it could cause small fruits.
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Kizzle
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420] 1
#25923668 - 04/08/19 06:13 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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staytrippy420 said: oh shit yo that. Thanks Caps. is it my fault or just shitty genetics?
I thought if the sub was too wet or too dry it could cause small fruits.
Fruit size is mostly related to moisture content of the substrate. Not necessarily surface conditions though. Simply not having enough bulk substrate which is what holds most of the water can cause them to be small.
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staytrippy420



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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: Kizzle]
#25923687 - 04/08/19 06:25 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Oh ok. Thanks for the info Kizzle 
My last boxes I had some verm mixed in and the fruits way bigger. These ones are straight coir (besides the one with a verm casing)
I broke one of the subs in half by accident and noticed it was a little dryer then my last ones. Maybe I should bottom water a little longer then I have been.
I also like to keep my lids cracked during the day because I'm always scarred that my sub is past full capacity. I will give them a good mist, close them up and see if that makes a difference with the second flush.
Edited by staytrippy420 (04/08/19 06:32 PM)
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MellowMyc
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Re: top layer vs casing layer vs no layer [Re: staytrippy420]
#25923928 - 04/08/19 08:56 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Is psuedocasing just the layer covering the spawn / sub mix at time of spawning?
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