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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25894351 - 03/24/19 03:57 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Actually check this out https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23797148


I understand about sterilizing for the sense of it killing off all the good bacteria and what not .. but clean spawn plus flow hood you will be ok



well he's kinda doing something different there. He sterilized, then mixed it in front of the hood and kept it in the bags after. He wasn't exposing sterile poo to open air contams until after it was colonized in the bag.

@trip  and that's why I started with, bucket tek is fine most of time for most people. But it's not 100% for everyone.



just get clean spawn that all u need w coir real shit :thumbup:



clearly you didn't look at how clean the jars were in the op of my trouble shoot thread and are just ignoring the fact that it went moldy on it's own in a week on several different makes. Are you just trolling, or seriously in capable of picking up new details to consider?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #25894353 - 03/24/19 03:59 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

your jars can look clean af but have shit still in them :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25894354 - 03/24/19 04:00 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

so incapable. got it.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tripdawg420] * 1
    #25894356 - 03/24/19 04:02 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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LtLurker said: You want the beneficial/benign microbes still in there.



:justno: coir is devoid of beneficial microbes.
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LtLurker said:  Dirty spawn is the most common cause of moldy tubs before 1st flush, but it's not nessarily the case in every situation.



Non sterile seed is always the cause


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker] * 1
    #25894357 - 03/24/19 04:02 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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so incapable. got it.



no i didnt look at your thread im just talking from experiance doing this thats it u can put me on ignore it that will help u


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #25894358 - 03/24/19 04:02 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

ovens are for pies not poops.


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: sandman420]
    #25894362 - 03/24/19 04:04 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Cows poop pies.
Those jars dont look 100% clean. But i don't doubt coir can mold on it's own


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25894370 - 03/24/19 04:09 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

any things possiable right :shrug:


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25894372 - 03/24/19 04:11 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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tryptkaloids said: But i don't doubt coir can mold on it's own



and that's the key to my whole point. The coir was going moldy on it's own, un mixed, in a week.

Then I tried oven pasteurizing my coir and the problem disappeared.

I'm telling ya'll, I didn't suddenly start running all shitty spawn for weeks straight and then blame coir. Top fruits and verm-only tests were fine, only coir was turning shit.

/e and I'm reasonable sure everything that's not sterile has microbes living on it, including coir.

Edited by LtLurker (03/24/19 04:15 PM)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Boogieman47]
    #25894390 - 03/24/19 04:21 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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They got 10lb bricks at Wally workd for 8$ right now its earth coir or something 100% coir any one use it?




I just picked up a brick of this.  Also wondering if anyones ever used it?

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Redsway]
    #25894397 - 03/24/19 04:23 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

does it say infursed w trich or anything like that


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tripdawg420]
    #25894411 - 03/24/19 04:30 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Microbes sure, but beneficial ones? Naw. The process of pressing coir bricks is too hot


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
    #25894413 - 03/24/19 04:31 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

700f if memory serves:stoned:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #25894417 - 03/24/19 04:32 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

I looked and didnt see that it did just was wondering on quality if there is a bunch or foriegn bullshit


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Redsway]
    #25894418 - 03/24/19 04:33 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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They got 10lb bricks at Wally workd for 8$ right now its earth coir or something 100% coir any one use it?




I just picked up a brick of this.  Also wondering if anyones ever used it?




Check the label for added microbes, avoid that if possible. I used it a long while without any issues until the winter. That's when I was having the contam issues we were discussing with it and the texture of the product suddenly changed(maybe unrelated :shrug:).

There's several brands of that stuff so no guarantee it's the same brand I had troubles with.

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Microbes sure, but beneficial ones? Naw. The process of pressing coir bricks is too hot



@ trypt. I said beneficial/Benign, I dunno what's more applicable. What I understand is, sterile things contam faster, and you add a bunch of microbes when you hydrate it. The point I think is most relevant is that microbes will make it harder for molds to get a foot hold.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #25894423 - 03/24/19 04:36 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Can someone put coir under a scope and see if it has microbes??
:seriousbusiness:

Or would that be useless:rolleyes:

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #25894425 - 03/24/19 04:37 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

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Can someone put coir under a scope and see if it has microbes??
:seriousbusiness:

Or would that be useless:rolleyes:



right do wet and dry


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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: mushboy]
    #25894427 - 03/24/19 04:38 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Break it open in front of a flow hood. Grab inner pieces and put them on petri dish

Otherwise you'll just see junk from the air.

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
    #25894431 - 03/24/19 04:40 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Water is safe to drink after boiling for a short time, but it's not sterile. There's still living things in it.

Hell in my case it could have been added to the coir since it was gardening coir at the time(no claims on the label to that effect). We've gotten really far from sometimes bucket tek isn't sufficient to pasteurize and coir can mold on it's own.

Edited by LtLurker (03/24/19 04:43 PM)

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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
    #25894433 - 03/24/19 04:41 PM (4 years, 11 months ago)

Didnt someone do a bunch of tests with coir on agar ?? What happened with that


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