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Living off grid - The great white North * 1
    #25891657 - 03/23/19 08:29 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Outside of Machias ME.

It's a port town and large timber lot with taxes at 80 dollars per year.

I will be heading up to start a camp in October. Starting in an Amish cabin with a stove. Building all other infrastructure.

To the frontier.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25891685 - 03/23/19 08:50 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

What kind of cabins you looking at?

Being someone who has lived most of his life in the suburban and city areas, I am highly drawn to the country as well.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Dephect]
    #25891696 - 03/23/19 09:03 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I read that you'll need double the amount of solar panels to achieve the advertised output. So, yes, you can run an air conditioner or microwave on sunny days. Even without storage batteries you'll need a charge-controller:



$20 ebay


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25894101 - 03/24/19 02:15 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

get a diesel high powered generator and convert it to run of used motor oil and/or cooking oil. go to local oil changes pick up oil 5$ 50gal lol. ** must add you have to filter the oil which requires heating it and filtering it.

Wood gas generators are a BIG deal they have a few fully automated unist online that all you have to do is clean a single filter and add ANY wood based substrate or chunk to burner. just drive around pick up wood chunks on trash pick up day/ offer free tree cutting bam free fuel.

Then more normal solar =)


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Dephect]
    #25894625 - 03/24/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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What kind of cabins you looking at?

Being someone who has lived most of his life in the suburban and city areas, I am highly drawn to the country as well.




A standard fur trapper cabin, but with wood stoves.

I am going to splice "two cabins" together with scarf joints and make it larger. I would like a large loft as well.

The video is of a guy doing this very thing without any power tools -- although I will be using chainsaws. A five min time lapse of his build.





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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25894650 - 03/24/19 07:13 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Here's a cheap wind generator



$130 Alibaba.com


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25894663 - 03/24/19 07:23 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Cool recommendations mate. I will do some research.

Thanks a bunch!

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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25894722 - 03/24/19 07:57 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

The adventurous might design a septic tank to produce Natural Gas

Biotech Biogas Plant

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to convert a small gasoline generator to natural gas[/url]

how to compress biogas into cylinders

I read that mopeds can run on the small cylinder



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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25894784 - 03/24/19 08:35 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

In Maine this thing might have to be buried 6 feet deep



I've got two I'd like to experiment with. The trick I think is to wrap a central cylinder with discarded polypropylene carpet. The effluent from the john flows down into the central cylinder, the down-pipe ending below the level of the containers overflow pipe. A sawn-off elbow(because of the minimal clearance) prevents gas bubbles going up the inlet Pipe, but still you'd need a small vent pipe between the john and the tank to keep any bubbles that do come up the inlet pipe from entering the dwelling.

There's a name for the septic system that utilizes a central 'colander'. I had one that used a sump pump to distribute the overflow to a drain field elevated above the tank/

So the gas pressure wants to force the water level down so it can escape thru either the inlet or overflow pipe, but instead it's piped to storage bags such as waterbed mattresses I guess.

The carpet covering the central colander is sewn maybe with fishing line onto a 'galvanized-after-welding' hardware cloth that isn't too stiff to roll up enough to fit down thru the tanks fill-cap opening. Sufficient sealing of air crack is critical with two-part epoxy ribbon.

The overflow pipe would need a U-trap to prevent gas escaping easily.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25895258 - 03/25/19 05:04 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Those things are awesome. i use a 300gal for my compost and a 250 for worms.


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    #25895320 - 03/25/19 06:32 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

In my experience the best stove is an air-tight wood circulator



Currently @$700 at Lowes (removing the fire brick and grates makes transportation a breeze). I bought the one I have now at a yard sale for $100.

In my experience the best way to pipe the thing is straight out from the back at a slight upward angle thru the wall until it meets a clean-out 'T' which is positioned at a slight downward angle so any rainwater coming down the pipe drains outside rather than continuing on into the stove.

I usually cut a hole thru the wall and cement river rock or something around a large coffee can to form a thimble for the pipe and then use wire wool as caulk. As soon as the pipe reaches outside air it needs to be stainless steel because the cheaper stuff will rust out in a couple of years, so maybe the thimble should be sized accordingly, i.e cut the coffee can and spread the sides.

So you're standing outside your dwelling and removing the cap on the clean out T you shove that round headed chimney brush straight into the wood stove and then you take it out and shove it straight up the pipe (yes you can clean both direction from the clean out T and yeah there's no need for ladders and clambering onto the roof.) Given that my firewood isn't always as dry as I'd like (with creosote build-up as a result) I sometimes have to clean the chimney every couple of weeks.

Stainless steel pipe and T's are expensive but last practically forever. I've got a 12 foot rise on the back of my stove so that's 4 x 3' sections at $100 each + the T (The chimney cap rotted out a couple years ago and I never replaced it) They sell a bracket to set the chimney on but I just ran it up a sturdy angle iron wired to the drip-edge of the roof. I hung a pulley on the angle iron and used that to raise pipe into position.

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You're going to need the equivalent of a 200 sq' foot wood shed that will accommodate at least 5 cords of firewood. Around here you can give the Ranger station $20 for a permit to gather 5 cords of wood from downed trees.

Consider building a yurt or teepee to live in while building the foundation of your cabin. An 18 foot circle with 20 foot uprights (or longer) should be enough for 5 cords of wood, and one of those with an air-tight wood circulator would, I guess, outperform the comfort of a cabin or camper.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #25895477 - 03/25/19 08:55 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Sweet Jesus man.

Thanks for taking the time.

Do you live out in the boons too?

So much great information here.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25895561 - 03/25/19 09:47 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Ha ha, I'm paying $200/month on an acre on an island in Florida:

https://www.google.com/maps/place/Beacon+Cir,+Florida+32139/@29.355942,-81.6395957,12z/data=!4m5!3m4!1s0x88e65a7b45febd7b:0x894d3544e4e40517!8m2!3d29.355942!4d-81.6395957

It's where I hope to put my theories to the test.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25895576 - 03/25/19 09:56 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

GL come hurricane season. I couldn't imagine being out there during a night time cat 4. granted i spent the night in my car in a cat 4 but that was in a mall parking lot nothing near me for 200 yards.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: HappyHigh]
    #25895589 - 03/25/19 10:04 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

You're right. We lived on that island once before and moved north for the hurricane season. I've weathered a couple of hurricanes on the east coast (back when they weren't so fierce) and it's something to see the palm trees bent almost double.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25895698 - 03/25/19 11:08 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Alot of cow farmers are selling acres cheap in central FL. I've thought about buying a few and just jumping my fence for mushys.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: HappyHigh]
    #25895739 - 03/25/19 11:30 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Buy close to the Everglades and enjoy the Burmese pythons



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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25895812 - 03/25/19 12:20 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

That's amazing that you live on an island.

So cool. Do you take a ferry or bridge?


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25895832 - 03/25/19 12:32 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

There's a pricey ferry that runs hardly as many times as you would like it to. Most people have a boat and park their car on the mainland.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25895840 - 03/25/19 12:34 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

What depth snow pack can you expect up there in Maine?


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    #25895926 - 03/25/19 01:39 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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What depth snow pack can you expect up there in Maine?




Not sure.

I'm still researching.

Found out I will be leaving next month too, so that is good for some small crop fields and livestock.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25896131 - 03/25/19 03:29 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Quote:

Dephect said:
What kind of cabins you looking at?

Being someone who has lived most of his life in the suburban and city areas, I am highly drawn to the country as well.




A standard fur trapper cabin, but with wood stoves.

I am going to splice "two cabins" together with scarf joints and make it larger. I would like a large loft as well.

The video is of a guy doing this very thing without any power tools -- although I will be using chainsaws. A five min time lapse of his build.








Those cabin plans look fun to build. I have a bunch of tiny house floor plans that I eventually want to incorporate into a shipping container or into a small cabin of our own. Right now the lady and I are building equity on a pretty expensive house, and one day we are going to either rent it our or sell it all together and move to the country and live the same dream.


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How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: Dephect]
    #25897372 - 03/26/19 06:06 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Given the New York market for lamb and kid I suspect XUL aims to be in that sector, and the 35"(?) snowpack brings up the winter housing the flock as a first necessity.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25898422 - 03/26/19 04:32 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Maine ey,cheap land up in the North of the state,used to fish up in rangely lakes area,dirt logging roads go  on and on
This couple lives in a shipping container on the big island

https://m.youtube.com/user/mciarleglio


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: 5150]
    #25898600 - 03/26/19 05:56 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Called in for the purchase.

My taxes per year are 130 dollars for lots of acreage.

When the seller told me that, I couldn't believe it. That's fucking insanely cheap.

I expect to flourish in this state


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25899441 - 03/27/19 05:57 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Did you check to make sure your not in a bad Flood zone? That's my only worry.


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I have spread my dreams under your feet;
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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: HappyHigh]
    #25899705 - 03/27/19 09:03 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Yes, I did!

Thanks though.

That was my first concern. Flooding.

Then zoning.

It's all unrestricted with the nearest power lines 2 miles away.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25900505 - 03/27/19 04:50 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

u use ranchflip ?or something else to find it


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: 5150]
    #25900518 - 03/27/19 04:58 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

You can simply use Zillow. That was the best for me.

But you may want to check many different listings.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25902503 - 03/28/19 05:04 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Yep Zillow is good,have checked on it for lots on the big island
Those apache county 40 acre lots in az r bad ass,I like 6k above sea level living


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: 5150]
    #25903420 - 03/29/19 07:10 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I guess the satellite tv providers give you the most economical internet access out in the boonies. I see Hughes net is now providing telephone service also.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25903423 - 03/29/19 07:13 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I haven't left yet.

I'm just doing phones and a Genny.

Hughes net is shit. You need some real money if you expect to use any data. They own monopolies on that shit and don't sell it cheap.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25904313 - 03/29/19 04:10 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Hope u have water below u or something although it rains a lot in Maine and u could do those man made ponds like they do in Humboldt for growing weed


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: 5150] * 1
    #25920587 - 04/07/19 02:16 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Yo, hot water siphoning is where it's at.

Ever hear of it?


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25922667 - 04/08/19 09:15 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

5 cords of wood is like 15 pickup loads which equals about 1 day a week between the last frost in the spring and the first frost in autumn.

One thing's for certain if you do manage to fill propane tanks with natural gas by the method outlined, and run your vehicle on it, the odor wont be of french fries as you travel.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25923435 - 04/08/19 03:50 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Nope,so not gonna put in a well?


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25923496 - 04/08/19 04:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Sounds like a fun adventure.

I would recommend a rain catcher. Easy way to collect fresh water. Maybe build a small greenhouse for specific plants that need it.


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    #25923642 - 04/08/19 05:59 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Nope,so not gonna put in a well?




Yes.

Hot water siphoning only requires a tub of water and a fire. Here, watch.

Ultimately, one would want to further the method with a wood stove.



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    #25923651 - 04/08/19 06:02 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Almost forgot, a solar oven.


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    #25923654 - 04/08/19 06:03 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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Almost forgot, a solar oven.




Right on. I believe, in the summer, solar could be an option. But most off grid people note that, in the north, solar does not hold up after summer.


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    #25923688 - 04/08/19 06:25 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

True. It would be a seasonal thing for sure.


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    #25924251 - 04/09/19 04:03 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

But fersure a woodstove continually heating an attached greenhouse by the Thermosiphon effect may open a window to the solar alternative on those clear winter days.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
    #25924336 - 04/09/19 06:08 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

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But fersure a woodstove continually heating an attached greenhouse by the Thermosiphon effect may open a window to the solar alternative on those clear winter days.





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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25925253 - 04/09/19 03:16 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I first moved to the woods with a big McCullough chainsaw. I now prefer electric chainsaws that will run on my little generator. I have a $50 8 amp Worx that I regularly use on trees up to 14" at the base.

An electric chainsaw sharpener is a must, You can carry it in the truck and use it whenever. Today I cut a 12" sycamore and sharpened the chain during lunch. I also use it to knock down the kick-back humps a little that are right in front of the teeth on the chain; when these are knocked down the chain really bites and, yeah, it kicks. I have the cheep $30 Harbor freight kind. I like it.

You have to be prepared for a "bound" chain when the log pinches the bar and you can't get the chainsaw out, It's frustrating and you have to lever the log to open the kerf to get the chain loose.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: Buster_Brown]
    #25926770 - 04/10/19 11:42 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

A 3000 watt generator could operate 3 saws and leave the afternoons for family fishing. Four inch rounds are all you need if you can get them, when you split a 12" round you don't get much more than 4 four inch rounds anyway.


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: XUL]
    #25932788 - 04/13/19 04:30 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Hmm,a utilitarian hot tub
Wells r kinda pricey
This is some bs right here

https://www.rt.com/usa/342975-nestle-maine-water-supply/


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Re: How Many Goats Can You House In a Teepee? [Re: 5150] * 1
    #25933831 - 04/14/19 09:34 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

What a strange story.

Then I guess Nestle wants to sell the water back to the people? Lol

That's a crock


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25933875 - 04/14/19 09:54 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I personally would add the wim hof method to the list, so that you can stay outside all night and endure the cold with no problems. Thanks to the help of a fully functional endocrine system. This is something that all WARM BLOODED mammals can do within their natural cold hardiness range you might say.

Apparently we all think we’re cold blooded and/or originate from tropical regions where the night time cold temps are easily endured. I think not, it’s actually been proven to be false imo


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Raven44]
    #25934589 - 04/14/19 04:11 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)



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    #25960398 - 04/28/19 10:03 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

First thing I'm building is a pole barn.

Then cabin, then sauna, and outhouse

Then small lean-tos for storing wood.

Then cabin 2


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25960736 - 04/28/19 01:57 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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First thing I'm building is a pole barn.

Then cabin, then sauna, and outhouse

Then small lean-tos for storing wood.

Then cabin 2





Good thing you didn't choose the teepee option; here's a tale of Misery in Montana


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    #25973360 - 05/05/19 07:42 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I hung a pulley on the angle iron and used that to raise pipe into position.




Pipe clamps snug the chimney to the angle iron. The cleanout T needs to be 3-5' above the ground.


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    #25973448 - 05/05/19 08:34 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

XUL. I did this!!!:willienelson:

1 full year off the grid.
Below freezing indoors with a wood stove at times.
Collected our water, no power, only hand tools.

Such an incredible experience. Honestly changed my life.:feelsjohngoodman:

What drove me out there?? Literally getting sick and tired of paying rent!


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: McGrimm]
    #25973451 - 05/05/19 08:37 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Did the wood stove not heat the cabin?


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #25973518 - 05/05/19 09:18 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

The wood stove was great. But it took time to really start radiating heat. Then it takes constant maintenance.

So if it went out at night, or while I was away, then the process starts from square one again.

To conserve wood, I tried to mainly use it  when I felt it was "necessary", but not really for comfort.

Gear is everything off grid


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    #25973529 - 05/05/19 09:21 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

In that part of Maine the dirt is beautiful, but the bedrock is also not far down.
So composting all of our waste to make soil was super important too


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    #25973557 - 05/05/19 09:29 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Haha. I will have a compost toilet!


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    #25973573 - 05/05/19 09:37 AM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Ever heard of humanure?

Check it out. It is awesome science!:strokebeard:


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: Raven44]
    #25973898 - 05/05/19 12:57 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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I personally would add the wim hof method to the list, so that you can stay outside all night and endure the cold with no problems. Thanks to the help of a fully functional endocrine system. This is something that all WARM BLOODED mammals can do within their natural cold hardiness range you might say.

Apparently we all think we’re cold blooded and/or originate from tropical regions where the night time cold temps are easily endured. I think not, it’s actually been proven to be false imo



Probably depends on your genetics. Some people do descend from tropical people's. Some people have lived in Florida all their lives. These things do effect your resilience to cold.

It is in many parts mental though. When I was in ROTC our sergeant would tell us the story of a man who froze to death after being locked in a refrigerated truck.

Only the cooling system was broken and it was never below 45 degrees. Chilly but survivable. At least for 10 hours it is.


That story usually coincided with the mantra "it's mind over matter, you don't mind, it don't matter."
Only you know sometimes it does.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: CookieCrumbs]
    #26152136 - 08/25/19 09:30 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Outside of Machias ME.

It's a port town and large timber lot with taxes at 80 dollars per year.

I will be heading up to start a camp in September. Although I won't be permanently living off grid as of yet. This will be a season process of building up my camp.

I will post pictures of the initial cabin and camp setup.

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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #26153071 - 08/25/19 11:34 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Outside of Machias ME.

It's a port town and large timber lot with taxes at 80 dollars per year.

I will be heading up to start a camp in September. Although I won't be permanently living off grid as of yet. This will be a season process of building up my camp.

I will post pictures of the initial cabin and camp setup.

Cheers.







any idea of what kinds of trees grow on the land?  do you know when there was last a timber harvest?  what are your intentions for the trees?


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    #26153311 - 08/26/19 07:49 AM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Mostly hard wood. It was selectively cut a few years ago.

I am going to let it grow until I'm older. I would like to use the lumber for myself. I would like one property to be a nearly untouched sanctuary.

But then again, I am working hard to buy several properties in timber country. For the purpose of supplying the south with my own milled boards.


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Re: Living off grid - preparation, lists, case study [Re: XUL]
    #26164258 - 09/01/19 06:34 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Have you thought about using clay for construction?  I dream of making a large outdoor oven out of clay.  I've also seen furniture and even buildings made with clay.


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    #26280733 - 10/27/19 05:06 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

I could easily live without power or on solar/wind. Without high speed internet... hell no


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    #26280802 - 10/27/19 05:42 PM (4 years, 3 months ago)

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I could easily live without power or on solar/wind. Without high speed internet... hell no




isn't that just another addiction like alcohol, tobacco?

Actually I just turned down an offer to go camping in the Florida wilderness because I'd miss my washing machine.


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    #26286875 - 10/30/19 10:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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I could easily live without power or on solar/wind. Without high speed internet... hell no




isn't that just another addiction like alcohol, tobacco?

Actually I just turned down an offer to go camping in the Florida wilderness because I'd miss my washing machine.




My final setup turned out being an insulated Amish cabin with a large wood stove. Propane oven and cooking stove. Propane shower with pump and shower head.
. Propane refrigerator. There is phone service too, which is great. :hank:

Next spring I will be setting up solar power and combining it with propane. In this way, I can live relatively modern and still be away from population.


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