Skulltivator said:

Yes, you can birth (dunk/roll) now (unless of course it's not fully colonised due to some contamination and knotting up just on the part that's colonised; then you're probably done).

Basically, the rule is: you want to see the jars entirely colonised and then give a bit to consolidate. Then, birth as it suits your schedule.

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If you see knots and it's not contaminated it's ready to fruit.

Psilocybinmoose said:

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Yeah, you're not going to be able to birth that now; it'll just fall apart in your hands when you smack it out of the jar.

As for the diagnosis, you're right; it's a little hard to see, but I think you must be talking about the little balls in the centre left area of the jar. And, yes, they do look like knots. That premature development together with the fact that some of the rhizos are reaching out pretty far ahead of the rest of the myc makes me think there might be some bacteria in there. But that's not a def. Give a bit more time and see how it goes. There's no obvious red flag here yet.

Patience my friend. Birth a week after full colonisation. Always.

Psilocybinmoose said:

Thank you so much, and a lot of the dry verm layer kinda fell along the sides of the jar I believe that’s why it looks like it would crumble in my hands. How long should I wait?

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impatientguy said:

You should wait until its fully colonized before you even think about birthing them

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Sometimes it takes a while.

Listen, I know you want to get your colour on, but just be patient. It feels like it takes forever in the beginning, but before you know it, you'll have way more fruits than you know what to do with.