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New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles * 1
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Less than a week after the New Zealand terror attack, New Zealand PM announced a total ban of military style semiautomatic weapons. There will be no grandfathering of existing weapons. Owners are required to surrender their weapons to the government and will receive payment for their retail value.

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Here are the details

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Q&A - New Zealand's gun law changes explained
The press conference is still going on, but Ardern’s press team have sent over this Q&A.


1. What semi-automatic firearms will be affected by the ban?

The ban will apply to all firearms are now defined as Military Style Semi-Automatics (MSSAs) and will also include assault rifles.


2. What semi-automatic firearms will NOT be affected by the ban?

There is a balance to be struck between public safety and legitimate use. The changes exclude two general classes of firearms which are commonly used for hunting, pest control, stock management on farms, and duck shooting:

· Semi-automatic .22 calibre rimfire firearms with a magazine which holds no more than ten rounds

· Semi-automatic and pump action shotguns with a non-detachable tubular magazine which holds no more than five rounds

3. What semi-automatic firearms are affected by today’s Order in Council?

Two types of firearms are now defined as Military Style Semi-Automatics (MSSAs):

· A semi-automatic firearm capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges

· A semi-automatic shotgun capable of being used with a detachable magazine which holds more than five cartridges



4. I have an A-Category firearms licence and now own MSSAs. What should I do?

It would normally be an offence for an A-Category licence holder to possess an MSSA, punishable by up to three years in prison or a $4000 fine. However a transitional period gives time for people to comply with the law, if they take certain steps. The transitional period will be confirmed next month. Firearms owners who unlawfully possess an MSSA now have three options:

· Voluntarily surrender the firearm to Police for safe disposal.

· Complete an online form on the Police website to arrange for the MSSA to be collected, while details are finalised for compensation under a buy back scheme

· Sell or gift the firearm to a person who has an E-Category licence and a ‘permit to procure’ the weapon

5. Are Police geared up to receive large numbers of MSSAs?

Yes. They will work with the New Zealand Defence Force to enable safe storage, transport and destruction of MSSAs. Police are establishing an online form which will make it easier for firearms owners to arrange for Police to collect the MSSAs. The online form will go live over the weekend. It will not be practicable for firearms owners to physically return their weapons to Police stations without prior approval. Where extra administrative staff are required they will be hired on fixed-term contracts.

6. Will this lead to stockpiling of semi-automatics?

No. The changes under the Order in Council take effect immediately. Anyone who now unlawfully has an MSSA, which yesterday was a lawful firearm, needs to take steps to comply with the law.

7. Will some firearms dealers be breaking the law if they have these MSSAs in stock?

Some firearms dealers only hold A-category licences. In order to comply with the law, they could sell their stock of semi-automatics to a Category E licence holder or return them to their supplier.

8. What are the statistics for firearms licences and firearms in circulation?

· There are 245,000 firearms licences

· Of these, 7,500 are E-Category licences; and 485 are dealer licences

· There are 13,500 firearms which require the owner to have an E-Cat licence, this is effectively the known number of MSSAs before today’s changes

· The total number of firearms in New Zealand is estimated to be 1.2-1.5 million

9. What further issues are being considered?

Cabinet will consider further steps on 25 March. These will include measures to:

· Tighten firearms licensing and penalties

· Impose greater controls over a range of ammunition

· Address a number of other issues relevant to special interest groups such as international sports shooters and professional pest controllers, such as DoC.

· Future proof the Arms Act to ensure it is able to respond to developments in technology and society

10. How will the buyback work, and who will administer it?

Police, the Treasury and other agencies are working through the detail. More information will be available when the legislation is introduced next month. The compensation will be fair and reasonable based on firearm type, average prices and the age of firearms.

11. What is the cost of the buyback likely to be?

That is very difficult to judge, given the limited information about the total number of firearms affected by this change. Preliminary advice suggests it could be in the range of $100m-$200m. The buyback will ensure these weapons are taken out of circulation and that we fulfil our obligations under the la




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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: koods]
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Sucks to be them.

Edit: thank s kooders


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Edited by XUL (03/21/19 06:58 AM)

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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: koods] * 2
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There goes my plans to move to NZ.


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: XUL] * 8
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XUL said:
Sucks to be them.

Europe is trash.



Lol you don’t even know where New Zealand is



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“if I believed she was 16 I would become unattracted to her”

Edited by koods (03/20/19 09:02 PM)

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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: koods]
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koods said:
:haha:





Who are you, Brenton Tarrant?


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: koods]
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Thanks.

Still. It sucks to be them, imo.


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: XUL] * 1
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Sucked to be us when our biggest mass shooting occurred, was excellent when bringing in the gun ban stopped it happening.
In our experience.


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: pineninja] * 1
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Just keep buying guns and burying them.


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: XUL] * 1
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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: koods]
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The silence in this thread is telling.

Where are all the "it could never work" people.

Will it work?


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: pineninja]
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What are you asking about not working? People voluntarily giving up their guns or the ban preventing mass shootings?

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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: Kwyjibo]
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The gun buy back.

This is a question for the yanks.
I usually dont single out but in this case its necessary.

Generally the conversations end up here with people throwing arguements left and right till the right says....itd never work anyway.

I want to hear from them, weve already passed a point which would be passed most of their comprehension....the government buy back.


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: XUL] * 2
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Quote:
keep buying guns and burying them.




You only have 2 hands , at what point will that be a waste of money ?


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: Psilynut2]
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It a compulsion. These people are putty in the hands of the gun lobby. They don’t think for themselves. They are just urged to consume to troll the libs.


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: pineninja]
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pineninja said:
The gun buy back.

This is a question for the yanks.
I usually dont single out but in this case its necessary.

Generally the conversations end up here with people throwing arguements left and right till the right says....itd never work anyway.

I want to hear from them, weve already passed a point which would be passed most of their comprehension....the government buy back.



what about it?  could it work how?  most people will probably turn in their guns, if that's what you mean.
If you're asking about if it will work to prevent homicides, that's a very different question.  My answer to that question is, maybe, incrementally, to some degree.  I'm not convinced that it would be worth it here, but if you queen-worshippers wanna do it, more power to ya.  I get tired of having this particular debate,  but here's a thread where I discussed some statistics at length with koods and covered the port arthur massacre in my analysis

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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: ballsalsa]
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Statement of fact: There was a mass murder involving a Semi automatic.

Statement of fact: The government of the time introduced tougher gun laws.

Question : Will this action result in less Gun crime ?


Sometimes we get tired when our point becomes moot.


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Edited by pineninja (03/21/19 05:23 PM)

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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: pineninja]
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Yes. If companies manufacture and sell less guns less people will be shot by guns . Take everyone’s guns away don’t allow anyone to sell guns almost  no one will be shot by guns .


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: Psilynut2]
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Eventually the US will come to its senses and do away with the second amendment. It’s not a bad thing to revisit 300 year old ideas.


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: koods] * 1
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Just got a notice while I was writing that last post: the federal ban on bump stocks goes into effect next week. Don’t forget to turn in your bump stocks, nutjobs! Remember gun owners are law abiding citizens and Donald President is taking your bump stocks.


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Re: New Zealand bans most semiautomatic rifles [Re: koods]
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Another point to make is that when (we) Australia brought in its gun reform we already had pretty tight laws or at the very least it was regulated/we knew who had em and how many....this has been used as a counter to why it worked here/it wasn't that big of a transistion.

Now NZ (which is a totally different country) and not in europe :facepalm3: is coming from a place where the regulations were simply not in place, their issue is going to be harder to overcome...but that doesnt mean they are not going to try.

@ Koods
it may happen but i dont think the land mass will still be called America.


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