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Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. * 1
    #25880701 - 03/17/19 06:29 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

This is my first grow and I essentially used the shoebox tek except I spawned using pf cakes because I didn't want to fruit them as cakes. Anyways my surface wasn't very level and now I'm paying for it. The shoebox is in my sgfc and i have tons of side pins and none on the surface.

So my question is should I birth the whole thing like a cake and fruit it with all 5 sides exposed?

Also I found a very small spot on the top that was almost bright pink and glossy. I scooped the whole area around it very carefully and removed. Is this okay? What is it?

Here's some pics:

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Packerbacker12]
    #25880750 - 03/17/19 06:57 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Clone that fruit and take a print. I would expect little more.

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Failboat]
    #25880775 - 03/17/19 07:17 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

There are side pins because the conditions are better for them to form right between the wall and the substrate. Your surface conditions were poor.

Also, scooping out a contamination is not going to help anything. It's all mixed in there.


Here is a good read about surface conditions
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Packerbacker12] * 1
    #25880787 - 03/17/19 07:22 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

I’m currently fruiting a sidepinning shoebox as a cake, it’s working decently.  I used CV and grain spawn though. I also dunked the cake for 12 hours after picking off a bunch of aborts.  I’m also experimenting with verm casings, and trust me it’s not worth it.

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: ThiccBoy] * 1
    #25880796 - 03/17/19 07:27 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

They seem to be rolling along. Is that an unmodified tub?


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #25880842 - 03/17/19 07:57 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

I know my surface conditions were poor.i admit that haha. So should i take it out of the shoebox?

If the contam is just in all of it, do i need to toss the whole thing?

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Packerbacker12]
    #25880951 - 03/17/19 09:08 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

You could, but don't try to fruit it again. It's only a matter of time before it starts throwing mold spores everywhere and fungal gnats start filling your grow area.

You could just continue the fruiting outside, just put it somewhere shady and make sure it doesn't dry out.


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Nobler Hino] * 1
    #25880966 - 03/17/19 09:15 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Yup!! Works great for a bunch of smaller grows.  I just find it pretty hard to keep a good RH by dubbing shoeboxes.

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: ThiccBoy]
    #25880998 - 03/17/19 09:31 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Don't dub them, I learned the hard way. You seem to be doing something right lol.

Cubes don't need a ridiculous amount of rh, I like to see my greenhouse between 70-80%


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #25881020 - 03/17/19 09:47 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Yeah I mist the walls of the tub 2-4 times a day and the surface of the cake once a day. The verm casing definitely isn’t ideal though, can’t tell when it’s dry and doesn’t hold moisture like a coir casing does.

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #25881039 - 03/17/19 09:58 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Yeah I must the walls of the tub 2-4 times a day and the surface of the cake once a day. The verm casing definitely isn’t ideal though, can’t tell when it’s dry and doesn’t hold moisture like a coir casing does.

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: ThiccBoy] * 3
    #25881093 - 03/17/19 10:42 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)



I just got done fruiting this one. I took it out and put it in a slightly bigger box and I bottom watered it way too much. Dunno if it was a great idea but it worked ok.

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: mentat_ix]
    #25881108 - 03/17/19 10:56 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Solid flush my guy:thumbup: mad props

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Packerbacker12]
    #25881221 - 03/18/19 12:50 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Put a shoebox grow into a humidity chamber and fruit like a cake?

Whoa :incredible:

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25881605 - 03/18/19 09:53 AM (5 years, 11 days ago)

Well i removed the whole thing and im fruiting it like a cake. The side pins are already thanking me. I guess ill just fruit until contams take over unless I see more pink show up. Then it'll go straight to the trash

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: ThiccBoy]
    #25881637 - 03/18/19 10:14 AM (5 years, 11 days ago)

Quote:

ThiccBoy said:
I’m currently fruiting a sidepinning shoebox as a cake, it’s working decently.  I used CV and grain spawn though. I also dunked the cake for 12 hours after picking off a bunch of aborts.  I’m also experimenting with verm casings, and trust me it’s not worth it.






is that a straight verm casing?? If so, how did you prepare it?
I'm trying to decided weather or not to add a straight verm top layer to a few of my boxes that have exposed grains.


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #25882019 - 03/18/19 02:21 PM (5 years, 11 days ago)

I've take them out the tray and fruited them with all sides exposed. If the condiitons improve you'll get a good 2nd flush.


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: heaze2010]
    #25882216 - 03/18/19 03:52 PM (5 years, 11 days ago)

Sweet, hoping I can get at least 2 flushes out of it. I already have another shoebox colonizing now thats much more level. Hopefully the flatter surface conditions will eliminate some of the side pins. Im just gonna leave the lid on or partially cracked to fruit that one.

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: staytrippy420]
    #25882245 - 03/18/19 04:04 PM (5 years, 11 days ago)

Yup, straight verm.  I just soaked it to field capacity and put about a 1/4 inch deep casing.  I would stick to CV, maintains moisture wayyyyyy better.

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Packerbacker12]
    #25883244 - 03/19/19 09:15 AM (5 years, 10 days ago)

Update on the shoebox that I decided to fruit like a cake:


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Packerbacker12]
    #25883690 - 03/19/19 02:00 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

The pins are absolutely avoiding the top surface at all costs thats crazy


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: heaze2010]
    #25884138 - 03/19/19 05:59 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

Not really, looks like trich claimed the center.


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Nobler Hino]
    #25884407 - 03/19/19 07:47 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

How can you tell trich got the center? Still all white

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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Packerbacker12]
    #25884419 - 03/19/19 07:51 PM (5 years, 10 days ago)

It's looks puffy and swollen, that's how the mycelium looks when its reacting to trich right before it forms spores.

Can you get some better pictures of the middle?


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Re: Should I fruit shoebox like a cake? And very small pink contam. [Re: Nobler Hino]
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