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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26124196 - 08/06/19 01:28 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

The point was that primitive weapons can kill people in crowds very quickly.  A dude with a sword could probably hack up the line for da clurb and fuck up several people within a few seconds before they could even react


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26124207 - 08/06/19 01:36 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

You know damn well that's a terrible point lol


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26124213 - 08/06/19 01:38 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

i guess the real takeaway is that crowds are vulnerable and always have been.  Then again, if everyone is afraid of crowds, the terrorists win and shit.  what should we do about it?


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26124223 - 08/06/19 01:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Yes, crowds are vulnerable, and always have been. There haven't always been weapons that the average person can acquire that allow them to kill dozens people in a crowd in under a minute.

There arent mass sword attacks, there arent mass crossbow assaults, there aren't trebuchet mall sieges. There are shootings.


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26124270 - 08/06/19 02:34 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

those are all plausible though


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: ballsalsa] * 1
    #26124275 - 08/06/19 02:37 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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i guess the real takeaway is that crowds are vulnerable and always have been.  Then again, if everyone is afraid of crowds, the terrorists win and shit.  what should we do about it?





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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: YangSupporter]
    #26124281 - 08/06/19 02:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)



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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26124284 - 08/06/19 02:41 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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There arent mass sword attacks






https://www.google.com/search?q=man+wielding+sword&source=lnms&tbm=nws&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjEkcaPje_jAhUrU98KHY_LAGoQ_AUIESgC&biw=1093&bih=540&dpr=1.25



there may not be mass-murders in single incidents of sword attacks, but there are a LOT incidents of sword attacks/murders


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26124287 - 08/06/19 02:43 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/aug/05/viral-tweet-about-mass-shootings-country-it-needs-/



Doesn't matter if the Brazil and Mexico stats are inaccurate the US still needs to change. Looks like all the gun control countries got it figured out. Time to make a change.


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Tulipslave]
    #26124294 - 08/06/19 02:45 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

We're specifically referring to mass attacks on crowds of people. Murder can happen with anything. You can't kill dozens of people in the time these shooters do with a sword.  In fact I would imagine that the bigger the crowd was, the more difficult it would be.

It so obviously makes no point at all about the sheer effectiveness of guns and how widespread they are that I dont even know why I addressed it lol. I cant believe yall are literally comparing swords and TREBUCHETS to guns, what is going on lol. You usually got some decent points ballsalsa


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: YangSupporter]
    #26124298 - 08/06/19 02:48 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Near Dylan said:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/aug/05/viral-tweet-about-mass-shootings-country-it-needs-/



Doesn't matter if the Brazil and Mexico stats are inaccurate the US still needs to change. Looks like all the gun control countries got it figured out. Time to make a change.



I mean, it matters if the point of the tweet is to make comparisons. It is a very inaccurate tweet and wildly misrepresents the comparisons of mass violence around the world to american mass violence.


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26124300 - 08/06/19 02:49 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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We're specifically referring to mass attacks on crowds of people. Murder can happen with anything. You can't kill dozens of people in the time these shooters do with a sword.  In fact I would imagine that the bigger the crowd was, the more difficult it would be.

It so obviously makes no point at all about the sheer effectiveness of guns and how widespread they are that I dont even know why I addressed it lol. I cant believe yall are literally comparing swords and TREBUCHETS to guns, what is going on lol. You usually got some decent points ballsalsa






i would argue that in a crowd of people, a sword could kill as quick or quicker.  a sword is going to do more damage to most organs than a bullet, unless we're talking shotgun ammunition.


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Near Dylan] * 1
    #26124301 - 08/06/19 02:51 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Near Dylan said:
https://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2019/aug/05/viral-tweet-about-mass-shootings-country-it-needs-/



Doesn't matter if the Brazil and Mexico stats are inaccurate the US still needs to change. Looks like all the gun control countries got it figured out. Time to make a change.



I mean, it matters if the point of the tweet is to make comparisons. It is a very inaccurate tweet and wildly misrepresents the comparisons of mass violence around the world to american mass violence.



Its not inaccurate it shows how backwards the US is compared to European nations with gun control. The time of the wild west gun scene in the US is coming to end and people like you are just going to have to adapt.


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Tulipslave] * 1
    #26124306 - 08/06/19 02:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. What an unbelievably ignorant point. Swords absolutely would not be more effective at mass killing than a modern gun. Do some reading up on swords and melee combat. Or some reflection on common sense.

Unbelievable lol....


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26124307 - 08/06/19 02:53 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

Hasn't happened often but vehicles is something the average person has access to that would fit the bill, I'm sure if you are creative enough there are many other ways. For the most part a gun is the easiest and in America it's glamorized making it in my opinion the preferred tool especially if you are weak and want a false sense power.

Untimely you can't create laws to stop individuals who logically come to the conclusion of killing as many people as possible to make a point the exception would be war.  Something is obviously wrong this mass killings are symptoms of the problem and I don't think taking guns away will cure the disease.


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Frank Rizzo] * 1
    #26124309 - 08/06/19 02:54 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I said multiple times that blaming all this on guns is naive. There is clearly a much bigger problem than guns, though the amount of guns in america and the ease of getting them compared to most countries is certainly nothing to dismiss. At this point i am literally arguing that guns are more effective at killing lots of people than swords. I have no idea what im doing with my life.


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26124310 - 08/06/19 02:55 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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That is the most ridiculous thing I have ever heard. What an unbelievably ignorant point. Swords absolutely would not be more effective at mass killing than a modern gun. Do some reading up on swords and melee combat. Or some reflection on common sense.

Unbelievable lol....





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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Near Dylan]
    #26124319 - 08/06/19 02:59 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I'm not arguing against you I actually made the same point...


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: YangSupporter]
    #26124321 - 08/06/19 03:01 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

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Its not inaccurate it shows how backwards the US is compared to European nations with gun control. The time of the wild west gun scene in the US is coming to end and people like you are just going to have to adapt.</font>



It falsely represents the amount of shootings in america compared to european nations. We absolutely have more shootings than in europe, but the nuumbers of "0" compared to "241" are an immense misrepresentation of it. They literally use different standards to define mass killings. The numbers on there are just downright false and make it look like America is the only country that has any real issue with mass violence and shootings which just is not the case.


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Re: Public places should have a "Break During Shootings" Body Armor Case [Re: Frank Rizzo]
    #26124326 - 08/06/19 03:05 PM (4 years, 5 months ago)

I know but i got the impression you thought I wasnt making that point


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