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Anonymous #1

YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. * 5
    #25876032 - 03/15/19 02:26 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Anyone who does this and thinks its fine, you are living in a cloud.
You are fertilizing the garden of your mind with weed, you cannot enjoy life without it.
The Human spirit dims the more time you use it constantly.


Edited by Anonymous (03/15/19 02:26 PM)


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Anonymous #2

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #25876047 - 03/15/19 02:32 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Were marc emery or terence mckenna dim? they used cannabis heavily everyday they could. If you have certain passions that aren't in line with normal professions don't be discouraged by op


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Anonymous #3

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25876070 - 03/15/19 02:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Anyone who does this and thinks its fine, you are living in a cloud.
You are fertilizing the garden of your mind with weed, you cannot enjoy life without it.
The Human spirit dims the more time you use it constantly.




I got off prescription medicine because of pot and so far the side effects from weed are much much less

You can judge me all you want but you aren’t correct. You just sound like an asshole

Stay Classy


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Anonymous #4

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #25876137 - 03/15/19 03:10 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I smoke everyday, and I agree.


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3] * 1
    #25876140 - 03/15/19 03:11 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Okay then. . . Terence Mckenna stated he went insane during that period.
Also, Anon3 just doesnt wanna admit it. Cannabis doesn't have ANY negative. . . Okay then. . .


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Anonymous #5

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25876449 - 03/15/19 05:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

yes, it took me a long time to realize it but I agree


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Anonymous #6

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #5] * 2
    #25876498 - 03/15/19 05:44 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

yup, been a daily smoker since i was 14 and im now really trying to taper back. i could of gotten so much more stuff done with my adolescence if i hadn't become obsessed with weed.


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #6] * 1
    #25876624 - 03/15/19 06:44 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

ME TOO! This is why Stubborn smoke-till-you-die stoners have to come down off their High horse. Especially if they're smoking strong cannabis everyday. We just don't know how it really affects the brains development and I know several people who have gone psychotic.

Definitely will change your trajectory in life, weather or not you see it being important at the time, people will regret it for a life time. This is why people tend to keep smoking so much.


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Anonymous #7

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25876928 - 03/15/19 09:56 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

To each his own. It helps me focus more than when I'm sober. Depends on your intentions when using it. And yes I can say when sober because I've had to be sober for 1.5 years now from it going on 5 years... the impact its had on my life is little to none when I quit cold turkey, but I will say cannabis makes everything better. It eases my stress levels, helps my back aches, helps me sleep, and allows me to process all the artistic/goal oriented thoughts I have. My mind constantly has a ton of shit going on in it... And when I smoke weed I don't have a problem getting shit done... its when I'm not smoking it that I feel like I can't do all the million things I need to get done... Don't lump everyone into your pathetic little group and box all of us in.

Sounds like you're projecting :shrug:

If its not for you then don't smoke it!


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #7]
    #25878135 - 03/16/19 02:58 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I bet it makes you THINK you're doing better on it. You sound young. (20s) if you really think it improves all things then you are surely wrong. Its not projecting, its claiming that every stoner holds it up like there aren't flaws. There are flaws in everything and that particular substance is being marketed for everything..


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Anonymous #8

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25878853 - 03/16/19 08:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Cannabis can be good for some people.  Say your warnings but put them in reference to you.  If they apply to a specific person they’ll know it, probably.


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Anonymous #9

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #8] * 1
    #25880449 - 03/17/19 03:59 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I have met a few people who have a different brain chemistry and do benefit from regular cannabis use.  I don't know the epidemiology but I would guess that these individuals are in the minority as most people that use cannabis everyday are probably experiencing some deleterious effects long-term.  This can be direct consequences of mental and physical health or indirect consequences such as apathy and laziness that keep them from reaching their full potential.  For some it could be more of an opportunity cost equation: I know smoking weed everyday is bad for me and causes X effects but I will continue to use it everyday to prevent Y effects because I think that Y is a worse effect.

That being said, smoking anything every day is certainly bad for you...no matter what it is.


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Anonymous #8

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #9] * 1
    #25881182 - 03/17/19 11:56 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

There’s more ways to ingest than smoking and “daily use” isn’t a universal term.  Snoop dogg daily, yeah you’ll probably need a break or suffer the consequences but a small “stack” type of dose isn’t going to fall under the same set of consequences.  There’s a valid way to work with the stuff, even if it takes some stumbling to realize.

I think we’re splitting hairs here because if I had to guess a lot of people are telling themselves it’s harmless (which it is) and using that as an excuse to go full blown, and yeah I believe a good majority believe the bullshit they tell themselves.  Should it be legal, yeah.

There will always be that percentage that fucks up, no matter the topic but I would venture a guess that as time goes on and all the hype dies off weed usage will become just another thing, it won’t be as big an issue as alcohol, nowhere near..


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Anonymous #10

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #25882678 - 03/18/19 08:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I’ve smoked on and off for 12 years. Big events usually involve copious amounts of pot and almost everyone I know smokes. Weed really isn’t shit especially when you see how deep people go with other drugs.

So many people secretly smoke weed its crazy. I can pull out a quarter of weed and everyone will be begging to smoke it.


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Anonymous #11

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25882702 - 03/18/19 08:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
I bet it makes you THINK you're doing better on it. You sound young. (20s) if you really think it improves all things then you are surely wrong. Its not projecting, its claiming that every stoner holds it up like there aren't flaws. There are flaws in everything and that particular substance is being marketed for everything..




Im in my thirties, I smoke once a day.


Id be as crazy to say there arent negatives as you are saying that "all Stoners" blah blah.

The positives that smoking pot have given me i can only imagine are in similar measures to the negatives....but this is life.

I make choices based on what i percieve to be the most wholesome thing for me....for better AND worse.

Do you think there is a negative in having the opinion that sobriety at all times is the only way to go.?
And that pushing through the mountain of daily tasks is all there is.?

People need to de stress and seemingly always have....its either meditation (good luck if you can) sex, alc, drugs.
I prefer to be in a world where there is pot and it is used in responsible manner.


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Anonymous #12

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #11] * 3
    #25883471 - 03/19/19 11:59 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I smoked every day multiple times a day for about 11 years now with very few breaks. I quit recently to get a new job and man I feel so much clearer, more energy, better sleep, and I feel emotions much more intensely. When you're using it constantly you don't notice these small things but man when I quit it was a night and day difference. I think if I start smoking again it'll be on weekends only.


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Anonymous #3

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #12]
    #25883482 - 03/19/19 12:04 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I’m happy to hear you’re feeling better


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Anonymous #13

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3] * 2
    #25883524 - 03/19/19 12:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Every one is different, some people can function just as well baked all the time. I can’t. But to each their own. Not really any one else’s concern.


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #13]
    #25883541 - 03/19/19 12:33 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Not really anyone else's concern, no. People who are baked 24/7 aren't exactly competition to you.

Just trying to give some perspective. Thats what this community likes.
I agree it should be legal, (it is where I am) there is no research into this strong-as-hell stuff they sell these days. Theres a link in psychosis with heavy use. Weather you want to deny or not. .
Also these pathetic parents choosing to support their cannabis habit instead of feeding their kids.
I know a guy who has a brain tumor who was given dried cannabis by his dumbass mother at the age of 12 and has been smoking up ever since..
"weed cures every disease!!" (I was going after these sorta nutballs)

(I thought the medicinal use was found more in concentrates) he hasn't got his high school and they still thinks its helping him. Even though they don't work, they don't clean their house or go outside besides to score.

A great big congratulations to those who have given it some thought and decided how much is too much.

The greatest danger is thinking there is nothing to worry about. .


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Anonymous #3

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25883593 - 03/19/19 12:59 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

You are a pretentious person anon #1 and I have zero respect for you.


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Anonymous #3

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #25883598 - 03/19/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Anyone who does this and thinks its fine, you are living in a cloud.
You are fertilizing the garden of your mind with weed, you cannot enjoy life without it.
The Human spirit dims the more time you use it constantly.




And why the fuck are you on a drug website? The mods should ban you you self righteous, arrogant, pretentious arse


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Anonymous #10

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3] * 2
    #25883721 - 03/19/19 02:13 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Right. Thread almosf like a massive troll fest. I like getting baked as fuck and pushing myself. I know a lot of highly successful stoners. Started from the absolute ground up and weed was never an obstacle. If your lazy your fucking lazy whether you smoke pot or not.


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #25885926 - 03/20/19 02:38 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah, anon #3 I bet we'd have completely different music tastes too. That's okay.


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #25885937 - 03/20/19 02:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Soooo many pathetic raging justifiers in this thread lolol. Wonder where all this militant defensiveness comes from. Im sure yall are hellaaaa successful in life and veryyyy happy.


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #25885941 - 03/20/19 02:50 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Yeah I'm not. Thought I'd share the negatives.. Not hard for me to fess up. Thats the first step.


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #25885942 - 03/20/19 02:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Daily inebriation of any substance is so obviously going to be worse than being sober in every single instance no matter the substance. Every single one of you knows it. Lesser evils are still evils.


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Anonymous #10

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #25886454 - 03/20/19 06:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

So if you take a prescribe medication everyday you’re an idiot makes sense.


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #10]
    #25886457 - 03/20/19 06:53 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Do you get inebriated on that medicine? Then yes. Clear your room of the smoke, buddy, it's clouding your vision.


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Anonymous #11

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #25886468 - 03/20/19 07:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Soooo many pathetic raging justifiers in this thread lolol. Wonder where all this militant defensiveness comes from. Im sure yall are hellaaaa successful in life and veryyyy happy.



If you cannot even imagine others happy and succesful more than likely its because you aren't.

I can, and I am.


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Anonymous #8

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #12] * 1
    #25886484 - 03/20/19 07:11 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
I smoked every day multiple times a day for about 11 years now with very few breaks. I quit recently to get a new job and man I feel so much clearer, more energy, better sleep, and I feel emotions much more intensely. When you're using it constantly you don't notice these small things but man when I quit it was a night and day difference. I think if I start smoking again it'll be on weekends only.



I can definately vouch for this.  I see this thing with drug addictions where people psychologically hold on and fall into a pattern that over time equates to repetition.  So while they’re in the middle maintaining, everything else is moving along as scheduled so when you quit and wake up to all those changes it can be a little stirring.  Coming out of a long period of heavy cannabis is like peeling a layer of onion off your brain.  You get “higher” by not gwtting high for a little while until it balances.


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Anonymous #15

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #25886981 - 03/20/19 11:31 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I can live to maybe like 85, 90 after that I don't care what happens to me.


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Anonymous #12

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #25889286 - 03/21/19 10:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #8 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #12 said:
I smoked every day multiple times a day for about 11 years now with very few breaks. I quit recently to get a new job and man I feel so much clearer, more energy, better sleep, and I feel emotions much more intensely. When you're using it constantly you don't notice these small things but man when I quit it was a night and day difference. I think if I start smoking again it'll be on weekends only.



I can definately vouch for this.  I see this thing with drug addictions where people psychologically hold on and fall into a pattern that over time equates to repetition.  So while they’re in the middle maintaining, everything else is moving along as scheduled so when you quit and wake up to all those changes it can be a little stirring.  Coming out of a long period of heavy cannabis is like peeling a layer of onion off your brain.  You get “higher” by not gwtting high for a little while until it balances.




Yes you are completely right! I was sooo high on life as cliché as that is. But really I just couldn't believe the brain power I had that I guess I just forgot about. Really I was smoking from age 20-31 so I didn't even know what my adult sober mind was like. I had a layer of anxiety that just peeled off and suddenly I was more able to speak up in conversations at work. I'm an engineer so I need to be able to explain things clearly and put forth my ideas in a room full of other engineers with different ideas. Words can actually flow out and I can express what I really mean instead of stumbling through sentences until someone would interrupt me. This is NOT an exaggeration.


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Anonymous #16

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25889330 - 03/21/19 11:41 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Anyone who does this and thinks its fine, you are living in a cloud.
You are fertilizing the garden of your mind with weed, you cannot enjoy life without it.
The Human spirit dims the more time you use it constantly.




Tell this to a terminally ill patient, you small picture thinker.

Not everyone is like you. Some people need medication, and weed is probably the safest. You seem very ignorant.

If nothing else, weed is the best alternative to harmful pharmaceutical drugs.

So when you suffer in life, whether it be an unsuspected injury or disease, or you grow old and get sick, turn to your Oxycontin and Fentanyl, rather than weed. See where it gets you.

If you are still alive after that, tell me how you feel about weed then. Some people have 3 choices when ill. Weed, pharms, or NOTHING.


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Anonymous #17

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #2] * 1
    #25893349 - 03/24/19 07:56 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #2 said:
Were marc emery or terence mckenna dim? they used cannabis heavily everyday they could. If you have certain passions that aren't in line with normal professions don't be discouraged by op





Terenc McKenna was goofy as all fuck though. He is hardly a poster boy for "you can use drugs every day and still be normal."


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Anonymous #11

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #17]
    #25894696 - 03/24/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

If the world were full of mckenna's you'd be the goofy one.


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Anonymous #8

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #25895187 - 03/25/19 02:25 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

jaf?


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Anonymous #11

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #8]
    #25895188 - 03/25/19 02:27 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I wish.


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Anonymous #18

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #25895927 - 03/25/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I spent a good 6 or 7 years smoking every single day, then "quit" for about 4 years (didn't formally quit, but was just generally too busy to smoke and traveling to places where I couldn't get decent weed).

After experiencing a few years of "qitting", I can say this post is maybe 50% true. I definitely remember showing up for classes WAY too stoned and not getting much out of them, mainly because of social anxiety (so worse for classes requiring discussion, ok for hard sciences and math, but definitely not helpful ever). I started smoking relatively regularly again, but never smoke before work now, which is good for me.

On the other hand, my overall intelligence and well being was probably better when I smoked every day. I've had terrible insomnia since I was a child, and that only left during that period when I smoked daily. Any small gains in cognitive ability I've gained from not being high all the time are definitely outweighed by the negatives of sleep problems. For this reason, I'm actually trying to start again in the evenings after work. Since my tolerance is much lower, it's just difficult because weed actually makes me non-functional now, whereas I was pretty functional as a daily smoker.

So yeah, if weed doesn't benefit you, don't smoke it, but I think some people like to take all the negatives of stress and aging and blame the weed. We're all getting dumber, sorry.


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Anonymous #6

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #18]
    #25896436 - 03/25/19 05:58 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

almost everyone I've known to smoke daily had some kind of issue with socializing. either because being around a pothead is extremely annoying as a sober person, or because the weed was making them anxious, i dont know. but for myself, i know it caused alot of anxiety, to the point that I'd avoid going out with freinds to just smoke at home and listen to JRE
      :musky:  :musky:  :musky:  :musky:


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Anonymous #19

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #6]
    #25896946 - 03/25/19 10:06 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Carl Sagan.

https://bigthink.com/mind-brain/carl-sagan-on-smoking-marijuana

Carl Sagan on why he liked smoking marijuana

Carl Sagan liked to smoke weed. His essay on why is fascinating.
Scotty Hendricks
16 October, 2018

    Carl Sagan was a life long marijuana user and closeted advocate of legalization.
    He once wrote an anonymous essay on the effects it had on his life and why he felt it should be legalized.
    His insights will be vital as many societies begin to legalize marijuana.

The patron saint of nerds everywhere, Carl Sagan was an awesome human being. He wrote and hosted Cosmos, helped select the playlist of the Voyager Golden Records, had a distinguished academic career, and inspired both Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson to become the science educators they are today

Sagan wrote on a wide variety of topics, including astronomy, the need for truth in public discourse, world peace, and climate change. His brilliance is evident even in articles outside his area of expertise, and his insights are often quite meaningful.

One issue that he was forced to write on anonymously is now becoming a subject of debate across the world. Carl Sagan's ideas on marijuana are a valuable addition to the discussions over how the drug can be used properly and as a case study on how a person who uses it sparingly won't necessarily decay into a stoned couch potato.
Why did Carl Sagan write an essay on weed?

In an essay written for the 1971 book Marihuana Reconsidered, Dr. Sagan, writing under the pseudonym "Mr. X" described his history of marijuana use and how he thought it had been a positive force in his life. He wrote under a false name out of fear that he would negatively impact his career and reputation by writing such an article, and it was only after his death that we found out that he had written this essay.

The essay is too long to include here, but can be found in its entirety here or downloaded as a PDF here. We'll focus on the major points he brings up.
How did he think it helped him?

Sagan argues that his marijuana usage positively impacted several facets of his life. He explains that he was introduced to the drug at a time when he was beginning to branch out from doing nothing but science and was especially open to new experiences. He found the drug to be pleasant and was attracted to it in large part because of the seeming lack of negative physiological effects.

As a result of altering his consciousness by smoking marijuana, he alleged that many things that he was previously unable to appreciate or notice became available to him even when he sobered up. He found the drug to be extremely useful in helping him understand people who he would usually write off as mad, as he describes here:

"A sense of what the world is really like can be maddening; cannabis has brought me some feelings for what it is like to be crazy, and how we use that word 'crazy' to avoid thinking about things that are too painful for us. In the Soviet Union political dissidents are routinely placed in insane asylums. The same kind of thing, a little more subtle perhaps, occurs here: 'did you hear what Lenny Bruce said yesterday? He must be crazy.' When high on cannabis I discovered that there's somebody inside in those people we call mad."

In addition, it helped him to better understand himself:

"When I'm high I can penetrate into the past, recall childhood memories, friends, relatives, playthings, streets, smells, sounds, and tastes from a vanished era. I can reconstruct the actual occurrences in childhood events only half understood at the time. Many but not all my cannabis trips have somewhere in them a symbolism significant to me which I won't attempt to describe here, a kind of mandala embossed on the high. Free-associating to this mandala, both visually and as plays on words, has produced a very rich array of insights."

He found that the drug was able to help him understand art and music in ways he had never been able to before:

"The cannabis experience has greatly improved my appreciation for art, a subject which I had never much appreciated before. The understanding of the intent of the artist which I can achieve when high sometimes carries over to when I'm down. This is one of many human frontiers which cannabis has helped me traverse… A very similar improvement in my appreciation of music has occurred with cannabis. For the first time I have been able to hear the separate parts of a three-part harmony and the richness of the counterpoint. I have since discovered that professional musicians can quite easily keep many separate parts going simultaneously in their heads, but this was the first time for me."

He also thought it dramatically improved his sex life, as he analytically explains here:

"Cannabis also enhances the enjoyment of sex on the one hand it gives an exquisite sensitivity… the actual duration of orgasm seems to lengthen greatly, but this may be the usual experience of time expansion which comes with cannabis smoking."

Lastly, he argues for outright legalization in light of these benefits:

"The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world."
Was he alone in his views on drugs among other academics?

His view on marijuana is similar to the view of Aldous Huxley on harder psychedelics. Both men thought that psychotropic drugs could change our perception from our usual, survival-oriented mode to one that allows for a unique sensory perception and reflective thought patterns which both society and our psychology are structured to keep at bay. Huxley wrote an entire book, The Doors of Perception, on this phenomenon which he called the "Mind at Large."
Did Sagan’s drug use affect his work?

Yes, but he thought it was for the better. He claimed that one high lead to:

"…an idea on the origins and invalidities of racism in terms of Gaussian distribution curves. It was a point obvious in a way, but rarely talked about. I drew the curves in soap on the shower wall, and went to write the idea down. One idea led to another, and at the end of about an hour of extremely hard work I found I had written eleven short essays on a wide range of social, political, philosophical, and human biological topics… I have used them in university commencement addresses, public lectures, and in my books."

He also argued that it allowed him to better understand social issues, which he began to comment on more frequently in his later years. Though it must be noted that he didn't list any specific instances in his article of any great ideas devised while high. We can only take him at his word.

Of course, these supposed benefits took place because of his temperance and skepticism to the idea that every highdea was brilliant. This means that you shouldn't think that you're going to be the next big thing in science education just because you smoke a joint. Sagan's endorsement also doesn't negate the adverse side effects of the stuff that comes along with heavy usage; such as reduced motivation, memory issues, and an inability to create long-term plans.

As marijuana becomes increasingly legal, accepted, and commonplace we will have to answer questions about what it can do for us, both good and bad. While individual accounts should always be viewed with caution, the input of as intelligent a smoker as Carl Sagan is a valuable addition to any discussion on the subject.

NASA / JPL

The famous Pale Blue Dot photograph of Earth taken by the Voyager spacecraft. Imagine if Sagan's famous lecture on the image—one of the most famous passages in popular science—was influenced by his drug use...


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #16]
    #25898424 - 03/26/19 04:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #16 said:
weed is probably the safest.




Yeah this post wasn't "Marijuana is unsafe and if you disagree, you're an idiot."
Also, I wouldn't dare say marijuana is the safest. Can do a number on the human mind and change the way you think. Stoners aren't that dangerous but they aren't the smartest. There's responsible use. and irresponsible use. You're the kinda people I'm trying to tear off their high horse with their heads in the cloud..


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Anonymous #11

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #25898715 - 03/26/19 06:56 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

They not be the most intelligent according to your scale but they would never say something like that.:rolleyes: which by my scale says I'd rather hang with them.


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Anonymous #20

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #25902397 - 03/28/19 03:55 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Try smoking crack every day. Smoking weed every day is not worth much conjecture. You shouldn't really smoke anything ever, medically speaking.


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Anonymous #15

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #25902659 - 03/28/19 06:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

if you gotta smoke weed wait til your a bit older but thats it


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Anonymous #21

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #25911848 - 04/02/19 03:47 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

What if you've switched to wax and take like ten double sized dabs a day?

I mean it works


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Anonymous #19

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #21]
    #25911928 - 04/02/19 04:26 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

:archiebunker:


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Anonymous #17

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #11]
    #25914130 - 04/03/19 06:07 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #11 said:
If the world were full of mckenna's you'd be the goofy one.





I AM a goofy one, its just that game recognizes game.


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #17]
    #25914554 - 04/03/19 10:52 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

i did not start smoking herb or take psychedelics until i was 26, i was on a quest for truth and told my inner voice to guide me, the next day i had an offer to learn to blow glass, the guy smoked daily so i did too, while stoned constantly i became one of the best glass blowers of the time, weed was never my problem, it was always just me getting in my own way, now i smoke about six to ten grams a day, i am one of the wisest people i know, everybody who meets me feels the same, i do whatever i feel like and live without fear, i am in excellent health in my later years and have zero regret, weed is never a problem unless you are just using it to avoid your shit life, and even then its healthier than overeating or pills


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Anonymous #23

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #25914598 - 04/03/19 11:41 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Short answer: some people are functional members of society with it but the majority don't really benefit from daily use.

Long answer: uuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuh...

That's just like, your opinion man.


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Anonymous #19

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #23] * 1
    #25915080 - 04/04/19 07:57 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Smoking pot can lead to, ummmm, I forgot.

Confucius say
man who stand on toilet
high on pot.


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #25915982 - 04/04/19 05:41 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Anon#22 those people are using you for dope. You have quite the ego. . Those same people probably think you are an asshole behind your back. . You will be all alone one day, old man..


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Anonymous #11

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #25915996 - 04/04/19 05:48 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

You have quite the negative narrative in your head.

Could you admit that you are projecting your own perceived sense of inadaquecy onto others.

Tha fact that you would say one thing to somebody then say another thing behind their back does not mean that everybody would.

Sometimes we lash out at others so as too not focus on the self.


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Anonymous #20

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 2
    #25916004 - 04/04/19 05:54 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Anon#1 is called an asshole and is already alone. Anon#22 is stoned and happy even if deluded. If I had to choose between these options I would rather be blissfully ignorant and get high and happy. Grow your own, free your mind.


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Anonymous #24

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1] * 1
    #25916006 - 04/04/19 05:55 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I'm a younger single mother who runs a household by myself complete with a mini farm, I work plenty trust me. Mj helps my insomnia and my PTSD and it keeps me off pills and keeps me calmer in social situations. I appreciate Gods gift and see it for what it is, a medicine that used in moderation can be quite helpful and useful


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25916529 - 04/04/19 11:04 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Anon#22 those people are using you for dope. You have quite the ego. . Those same people probably think you are an asshole behind your back. . You will be all alone one day, old man..



actually, i never pay for weed, dont grow it either, people just give it to me, i have sown the right seed to reap the rewards of a good life

many people think im an asshole, most are bitter that they wasted their lives doing something that never brought hapiness

i am already alone for the most part, my wife is my constant companion but cannot keep up, i have many aquaintances but few friends, and that is how i like it

your hostility toward weed is a symptom of disconnect from reality, you live in a haze of half understanding, plants are just tools to drive perception, strawberry or cannabis they all nourish the senses

there is a lesson to be learned in this form, everyday as a human is a near death experience, the material is never alive, just animated, and some plants help you rediscover where life comes from


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #24]
    #25916531 - 04/04/19 11:06 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #24 said:
I'm a younger single mother who runs a household by myself complete with a mini farm



thank you and blessings


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Anonymous #25

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25924060 - 04/08/19 11:08 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

You are right. I smoked heavy and slowly withdrew from life and became avoidant


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Anonymous #20

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #25] * 1
    #25925123 - 04/09/19 02:17 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

If society didn't outcast stoners then stoners wouldn't become hermits from society, so to speak.


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #20]
    #25925147 - 04/09/19 02:27 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

The first isnt true and the second isnt true.


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #25] * 2
    #25926331 - 04/10/19 07:41 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #25 said:
You are right. I smoked heavy and slowly withdrew from life and became avoidant



you withdrew from a society that wont feed the hungry because of war and religion? you avoided a world where animals are tortured to provide food? you couldnt participate in a system that grabs up resources and then sells them back to you? you dont like being lied to and marginalized? yeah, must be the weeds


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #25926350 - 04/10/19 07:53 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Oh shut up, drama queen. Yeah, Im sure youre a hermit because of "war and violence and animal death, mannnn". Fuck off with that, bum.


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #25926361 - 04/10/19 08:04 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Oh shut up, drama queen. Yeah, Im sure youre a hermit because of "war and violence and animal death, mannnn". Fuck off with that, bum.



was this directed at me? i assure you i am no hermit, although many wish i were

your posts in this thread are highly emotional, perhaps some introspection on your part is needed, specifically on why you are afraid of a plant, do you have other delusional fears?


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #25926367 - 04/10/19 08:09 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Im an emotional guy, how about suck my dick about it! I smoke weed, I just like shitting on stoners who think it's some harmless vegetable or some shit. Weed ruins lives left and right, and the people that laugh at that notion are the people who weed ruined the lives of. Have fun in your moms house, winners.


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #25926384 - 04/10/19 08:21 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

wow #14 you are pretty messed up, lashing out at strangers like you do is indicative of an imbalance, you seem to think you are not in control of your life, you have given control over to a plant, just like any other junkie, and now that you have destabilized your self you seek to do it to others as validation of your ways, ignorant people often view others in the same light as they view themselves, you play the victim and remain weak, take back control of your self and end your suffering, you dont have to be a slave to your ignorance


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #25926390 - 04/10/19 08:23 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

What in the motherfuck are you talking about. Lay off the grass, kid.


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #25926397 - 04/10/19 08:27 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

not surprised you have trouble understanding, life must be quite a challenge for you


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #25926404 - 04/10/19 08:31 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Mustve been hard thinking you're so smart but being baffled as to why you didn't get into college.


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Anonymous #26

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #25926411 - 04/10/19 08:34 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Some people just can't handle it but that's a personal issue, you're an idiot if you blame an inanimate object for your own mental weakness.  I assume you probably believe someone is smart just because they have a college degree which isn't always the case as I seen plenty of idiots get their degrees. 

The person who gives up control of their life to any substance is going to have serious issues even if you removed said substance from their life.


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14] * 1
    #25926432 - 04/10/19 08:44 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Mustve been hard thinking you're so smart but being baffled as to why you didn't get into college.



this is just entry level trolling

but i will reply... no, i did not go to college, i did what i wanted, i learned what i needed to be happy, and i have been doing it for over forty years, weed never got in my way and only helped mitigate emotional suffering, if you have not had the same results then you have my condolences

if anything is getting between modern man and happiness it is a college education


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Anonymous #19

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #25926654 - 04/10/19 10:25 AM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #14 said:
Im an emotional guy, how about suck my dick about it! I smoke weed, I just like shitting on stoners who think it's some harmless vegetable or some shit. Weed ruins lives left and right, and the people that laugh at that notion are the people who weed ruined the lives of. Have fun in your moms house, winners.




"it's some harmless vegetable or some shit"

I do not personally think it's "harmeless" per se, but it can be benign for a wide array of people.


"people who weed ruined the lives of"


I disagree here. People that have problems and are prone to mental health issues will of course be compromised more than an average person that ingests cannabis. If someone is a bonehead/asshole/mentally inept/has psychological and social issues etc... cannabis doesn't help with the already existing problems. Cannabis is merely a catalyst for the negative conditions that are present and/or underlying psychological issues. The plant isn't the cause, it's a catalyst that may or may not bring out negative underlying or present problems/issues, and it does not help with certain people and certain social/psychological issues. Cannabis can be a great tool for creativity and making ones life positive in ways that would not be possible without as well. People ruin their own lives, or make them great. Not the plant.


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Anonymous #5

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #25927024 - 04/10/19 02:21 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

weed is "harmless" COMPARED TO OTHER STUFF.
it's not actually harmless, kids. latent psychological issues are more common than most people think


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Anonymous #19

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #25927045 - 04/10/19 02:35 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

"I do not personally think it's "harmeless" per se, but it can be benign for a wide array of people".


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Anonymous #19

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #25927049 - 04/10/19 02:39 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #5 said:
weed is "harmless" COMPARED TO OTHER STUFF.
it's not actually harmless, kids. latent psychological issues are more common than most people think




Psychological issues that are already underlying conditions. Yes teens using it can be very dangerous, but hormones are very strange things and can fuck with the body systems very erratically.
Cannabis = catalyst not cause. (maybe it can be a cause in younger people going through hormonal changes, but more studies need to be done)

As always, moderation is KEY!


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Anonymous #27

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #19]
    #25929728 - 04/11/19 10:11 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Weed disrupts your REM stage in sleep pretty bad, just like a tiny dose of alcohol. Sleep is the single most powerful thing when it comes to ... In fact absolutely everything whether it's finance, learning, athletics, health, whatever. Disrupting such mechanism each day is not smart, medical conditions aside.


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Anonymous #1

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #27]
    #25932559 - 04/13/19 01:58 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Anon#14 is saying it like it is..

Anon#22 is a self righteous pothead and should suck #14's dick..
FYI:Cannabis does ruin lives. This is why its much more dangerous than other drugs that people don't abuse.


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Anonymous #15

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25932610 - 04/13/19 02:35 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

I've been smoking weed for the past two weeks, the only thing it's done is made it easier for me to fall asleep earlier


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #27]
    #25932673 - 04/13/19 03:11 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #27 said:
Weed disrupts your REM stage in sleep pretty bad



looks like NOT smoking weed may turn you into a liar


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Anonymous #22

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #25932678 - 04/13/19 03:15 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Anon#14 is saying it like it is..

Anon#22 is a self righteous pothead and should suck #14's dick..



another thing cannabis is good for is mood alteration, you need to smooth out the bumps man

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
FYI:Cannabis does ruin lives. This is why its much more dangerous than other drugs that people don't abuse.



sure sure, as soon as your peer reviewed paper comes out detailing the exact mechanism for weed to ruin lives then someone will listen, until then i know most of us will defer to empirical knowledge


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Anonymous #28

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #22]
    #25936544 - 04/15/19 04:26 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

The money spent on it is unreal..I could paid off a very nice car..Even if you grow it, still not cheep..


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Anonymous #29

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #28]
    #25936770 - 04/15/19 06:34 PM (4 years, 9 months ago)

Smoke weeeeeeed errrrrr daaaaaayyy mooofuckassss


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Anonymous #30

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #29]
    #25967225 - 05/01/19 11:20 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

getting ready to give up the ganja after 14 years heavy use


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Anonymous #31

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #30]
    #25968397 - 05/02/19 02:44 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

The one started this topic was talking about enjoying life and human spirit, but can't even respect what someone smokes or not in his day to day without calling him an idiot. Shut up and let people live and be. Same to the one started the opposite topic. :peace:


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Anonymous #32

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #31]
    #25970345 - 05/03/19 03:19 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Guess I'm an idiot, darn.


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Anonymous #5

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #32]
    #25970474 - 05/03/19 04:25 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

fuck what anyone else thinks, unless you're lying to yourself to justify an addiction


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Anonymous #33

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #25970572 - 05/03/19 05:14 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Man I had to give up smoking pot back in 2005. It was ruining my life. 14 years not one hit and my mind feels so clear. I really had to embrace sobriety. I just could not handle being that blasted every day and feeling like I could cope with reality. Best thing I ever did. I hope all of those can truly find the path.

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Anyone who does this and thinks its fine, you are living in a cloud.
You are fertilizing the garden of your mind with weed, you cannot enjoy life without it.
The Human spirit dims the more time you use it constantly.




Like a light that just truly has no glow anymore. Why dim a bright flame? The path to spiritual clarity is a pure and sober conscience. Unfortunate otherwise.


Edited by Anonymous (05/03/19 05:27 PM)


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Anonymous #15

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #33]
    #25970759 - 05/03/19 07:55 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

quitting weed sucks ass

i can't fall asleep now and I'm always full


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Anonymous #5

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #15]
    #25970849 - 05/03/19 08:59 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #15 said:
quitting weed sucks ass

i can't fall asleep now and I'm always full



melatonin can help regulating sleep,
and for digestion try some herbal tea, maybe boldo (peumus boldus)


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Anonymous #32

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #5]
    #25980966 - 05/08/19 11:30 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)



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Anonymous #2

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26164391 - 09/01/19 08:08 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Okay then. . . Terence Mckenna stated he went insane during that period.
Also, Anon3 just doesnt wanna admit it. Cannabis doesn't have ANY negative. . . Okay then. . .



No he didn't he started to think he was crazy during the time when he was coming up with time wave zero theory. The only thing original idea he came up with was discovered because he "went crazy" I believe it was the brain tumor that caused the voices because that didn't happen until he was in his early 40's. He never said the cannabis caused him to go crazy but he did think it caused his tumor. He never said the reason he was hearing the ideas that led him to time wave zero. Show the source you have of him saying cannabis caused insanity. He actually said it allowed him to have patience to learn skills and gain knowledge he otherwise wouldn't have. I know I didn't get interested in reading for fun until I started smoking. I actually had no interest in cannabis until I realized what it did for my focus on things I didn't care for. I didn't start smoking until I was in high school and the highest grade I kept was a B until high school but mostly Cs Ds and Fs. I started making As and Bs in high school nothing lower than a B in high school and I owe it entirely to cannabis for allowing me to focus on things I would normally find boring. I started smoking before school to be able to focus on tests too not just homework. I think cannabis is an entirely different thing than what is said about it from propaganda. I think laziness or cloudy thinking is all caused by mindset, mostly influence from propaganda that subconsciously gets absorbed to make this mindset possible if you go into smoking with reason and intent it can actually make work easier. Mental problem solving and manual labor. I don't smoke everyday but have for years with 3-6 Month breaks a few of those years. In my experience smoking cannabis just makes life better you can smoke too much for your tolerance to make you lazy because of your mindset but it's all about the the way you think. You can eat a cheeseburger and sit on your assistance for the rest of the day and zone out but it wasn't the cheeseburger that made you lazy and cloudy thinking


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Anonymous #34

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
    #26164421 - 09/01/19 08:41 PM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I guess I'm an idiot then.

:awehigh:


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Anonymous #14

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #34]
    #26164751 - 09/02/19 04:06 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Congrrats on being the millionth person to make that joke


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Anonymous #35

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
    #26164828 - 09/02/19 07:26 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

I think you're an idiot if you get hung up on what other people do with their bodies and lives. If you don't want to smoke weed then don't, I don't get why there has to be a thread about why you think you're better than everyone else because you don't.


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Anonymous #15

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #35]
    #26165088 - 09/02/19 10:10 AM (4 years, 4 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #35 said:
I think you're an idiot if you get hung up on what other people do with their bodies and lives. If you don't want to smoke weed then don't, I don't get why there has to be a thread about why you think you're better than everyone else because you don't.




:burn:


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Anonymous #36

Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3]
    #26228976 - 10/04/19 06:56 AM (4 years, 3 months ago)

Quote:

Anonymous #3 said:
Quote:

Anonymous #1 said:
Anyone who does this and thinks its fine, you are living in a cloud.
You are fertilizing the garden of your mind with weed, you cannot enjoy life without it.
The Human spirit dims the more time you use it constantly.




I got off prescription medicine because of pot and so far the side effects from weed are much much less

You can judge me all you want but you aren’t correct. You just sound like an asshole

Stay Classy


yupp


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