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Anonymous #3
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1] 1
#25883598 - 03/19/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous #1 said: Anyone who does this and thinks its fine, you are living in a cloud. You are fertilizing the garden of your mind with weed, you cannot enjoy life without it. The Human spirit dims the more time you use it constantly.
And why the fuck are you on a drug website? The mods should ban you you self righteous, arrogant, pretentious arse
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Anonymous #10
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3] 2
#25883721 - 03/19/19 02:13 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Right. Thread almosf like a massive troll fest. I like getting baked as fuck and pushing myself. I know a lot of highly successful stoners. Started from the absolute ground up and weed was never an obstacle. If your lazy your fucking lazy whether you smoke pot or not.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3]
#25885926 - 03/20/19 02:38 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah, anon #3 I bet we'd have completely different music tastes too. That's okay.
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Anonymous #14
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #3]
#25885937 - 03/20/19 02:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Soooo many pathetic raging justifiers in this thread lolol. Wonder where all this militant defensiveness comes from. Im sure yall are hellaaaa successful in life and veryyyy happy.
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Anonymous #1
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
#25885941 - 03/20/19 02:50 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Yeah I'm not. Thought I'd share the negatives.. Not hard for me to fess up. Thats the first step.
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Anonymous #14
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
#25885942 - 03/20/19 02:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Daily inebriation of any substance is so obviously going to be worse than being sober in every single instance no matter the substance. Every single one of you knows it. Lesser evils are still evils.
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Anonymous #10
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
#25886454 - 03/20/19 06:51 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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So if you take a prescribe medication everyday you’re an idiot makes sense.
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Anonymous #14
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #10]
#25886457 - 03/20/19 06:53 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Do you get inebriated on that medicine? Then yes. Clear your room of the smoke, buddy, it's clouding your vision.
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Anonymous #11
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #14]
#25886468 - 03/20/19 07:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous #14 said: Soooo many pathetic raging justifiers in this thread lolol. Wonder where all this militant defensiveness comes from. Im sure yall are hellaaaa successful in life and veryyyy happy.
If you cannot even imagine others happy and succesful more than likely its because you aren't.
I can, and I am.
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Anonymous #8
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #12] 1
#25886484 - 03/20/19 07:11 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous #12 said: I smoked every day multiple times a day for about 11 years now with very few breaks. I quit recently to get a new job and man I feel so much clearer, more energy, better sleep, and I feel emotions much more intensely. When you're using it constantly you don't notice these small things but man when I quit it was a night and day difference. I think if I start smoking again it'll be on weekends only.
I can definately vouch for this. I see this thing with drug addictions where people psychologically hold on and fall into a pattern that over time equates to repetition. So while they’re in the middle maintaining, everything else is moving along as scheduled so when you quit and wake up to all those changes it can be a little stirring. Coming out of a long period of heavy cannabis is like peeling a layer of onion off your brain. You get “higher” by not gwtting high for a little while until it balances.
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Anonymous #15
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #8]
#25886981 - 03/20/19 11:31 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I can live to maybe like 85, 90 after that I don't care what happens to me.
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Anonymous #12
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #8]
#25889286 - 03/21/19 10:52 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Quote:
Anonymous #8 said:
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Anonymous #12 said: I smoked every day multiple times a day for about 11 years now with very few breaks. I quit recently to get a new job and man I feel so much clearer, more energy, better sleep, and I feel emotions much more intensely. When you're using it constantly you don't notice these small things but man when I quit it was a night and day difference. I think if I start smoking again it'll be on weekends only.
I can definately vouch for this. I see this thing with drug addictions where people psychologically hold on and fall into a pattern that over time equates to repetition. So while they’re in the middle maintaining, everything else is moving along as scheduled so when you quit and wake up to all those changes it can be a little stirring. Coming out of a long period of heavy cannabis is like peeling a layer of onion off your brain. You get “higher” by not gwtting high for a little while until it balances.
Yes you are completely right! I was sooo high on life as cliché as that is. But really I just couldn't believe the brain power I had that I guess I just forgot about. Really I was smoking from age 20-31 so I didn't even know what my adult sober mind was like. I had a layer of anxiety that just peeled off and suddenly I was more able to speak up in conversations at work. I'm an engineer so I need to be able to explain things clearly and put forth my ideas in a room full of other engineers with different ideas. Words can actually flow out and I can express what I really mean instead of stumbling through sentences until someone would interrupt me. This is NOT an exaggeration.
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Anonymous #16
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #1]
#25889330 - 03/21/19 11:41 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous #1 said: Anyone who does this and thinks its fine, you are living in a cloud. You are fertilizing the garden of your mind with weed, you cannot enjoy life without it. The Human spirit dims the more time you use it constantly.
Tell this to a terminally ill patient, you small picture thinker.
Not everyone is like you. Some people need medication, and weed is probably the safest. You seem very ignorant.
If nothing else, weed is the best alternative to harmful pharmaceutical drugs.
So when you suffer in life, whether it be an unsuspected injury or disease, or you grow old and get sick, turn to your Oxycontin and Fentanyl, rather than weed. See where it gets you.
If you are still alive after that, tell me how you feel about weed then. Some people have 3 choices when ill. Weed, pharms, or NOTHING.
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Anonymous #17
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #2] 1
#25893349 - 03/24/19 07:56 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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Anonymous #2 said: Were marc emery or terence mckenna dim? they used cannabis heavily everyday they could. If you have certain passions that aren't in line with normal professions don't be discouraged by op
Terenc McKenna was goofy as all fuck though. He is hardly a poster boy for "you can use drugs every day and still be normal."
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Anonymous #11
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #17]
#25894696 - 03/24/19 07:45 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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If the world were full of mckenna's you'd be the goofy one.
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Anonymous #8
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #11]
#25895187 - 03/25/19 02:25 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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jaf?
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Anonymous #11
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #8]
#25895188 - 03/25/19 02:27 AM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wish.
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Anonymous #18
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #11]
#25895927 - 03/25/19 01:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago) |
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I spent a good 6 or 7 years smoking every single day, then "quit" for about 4 years (didn't formally quit, but was just generally too busy to smoke and traveling to places where I couldn't get decent weed).
After experiencing a few years of "qitting", I can say this post is maybe 50% true. I definitely remember showing up for classes WAY too stoned and not getting much out of them, mainly because of social anxiety (so worse for classes requiring discussion, ok for hard sciences and math, but definitely not helpful ever). I started smoking relatively regularly again, but never smoke before work now, which is good for me.
On the other hand, my overall intelligence and well being was probably better when I smoked every day. I've had terrible insomnia since I was a child, and that only left during that period when I smoked daily. Any small gains in cognitive ability I've gained from not being high all the time are definitely outweighed by the negatives of sleep problems. For this reason, I'm actually trying to start again in the evenings after work. Since my tolerance is much lower, it's just difficult because weed actually makes me non-functional now, whereas I was pretty functional as a daily smoker.
So yeah, if weed doesn't benefit you, don't smoke it, but I think some people like to take all the negatives of stress and aging and blame the weed. We're all getting dumber, sorry.
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Anonymous #6
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #18]
#25896436 - 03/25/19 05:58 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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almost everyone I've known to smoke daily had some kind of issue with socializing. either because being around a pothead is extremely annoying as a sober person, or because the weed was making them anxious, i dont know. but for myself, i know it caused alot of anxiety, to the point that I'd avoid going out with freinds to just smoke at home and listen to JRE
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Anonymous #19
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Re: YOU are an IDIOT if you smoke weed everyday. [Re: Anonymous #6]
#25896946 - 03/25/19 10:06 PM (4 years, 9 months ago) |
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Carl Sagan.
https://bigthink.com/mind-brain/carl-sagan-on-smoking-marijuana
Carl Sagan on why he liked smoking marijuana
Carl Sagan liked to smoke weed. His essay on why is fascinating. Scotty Hendricks 16 October, 2018
Carl Sagan was a life long marijuana user and closeted advocate of legalization. He once wrote an anonymous essay on the effects it had on his life and why he felt it should be legalized. His insights will be vital as many societies begin to legalize marijuana.
The patron saint of nerds everywhere, Carl Sagan was an awesome human being. He wrote and hosted Cosmos, helped select the playlist of the Voyager Golden Records, had a distinguished academic career, and inspired both Bill Nye and Neil deGrasse Tyson to become the science educators they are today
Sagan wrote on a wide variety of topics, including astronomy, the need for truth in public discourse, world peace, and climate change. His brilliance is evident even in articles outside his area of expertise, and his insights are often quite meaningful.
One issue that he was forced to write on anonymously is now becoming a subject of debate across the world. Carl Sagan's ideas on marijuana are a valuable addition to the discussions over how the drug can be used properly and as a case study on how a person who uses it sparingly won't necessarily decay into a stoned couch potato. Why did Carl Sagan write an essay on weed?
In an essay written for the 1971 book Marihuana Reconsidered, Dr. Sagan, writing under the pseudonym "Mr. X" described his history of marijuana use and how he thought it had been a positive force in his life. He wrote under a false name out of fear that he would negatively impact his career and reputation by writing such an article, and it was only after his death that we found out that he had written this essay.
The essay is too long to include here, but can be found in its entirety here or downloaded as a PDF here. We'll focus on the major points he brings up. How did he think it helped him?
Sagan argues that his marijuana usage positively impacted several facets of his life. He explains that he was introduced to the drug at a time when he was beginning to branch out from doing nothing but science and was especially open to new experiences. He found the drug to be pleasant and was attracted to it in large part because of the seeming lack of negative physiological effects.
As a result of altering his consciousness by smoking marijuana, he alleged that many things that he was previously unable to appreciate or notice became available to him even when he sobered up. He found the drug to be extremely useful in helping him understand people who he would usually write off as mad, as he describes here:
"A sense of what the world is really like can be maddening; cannabis has brought me some feelings for what it is like to be crazy, and how we use that word 'crazy' to avoid thinking about things that are too painful for us. In the Soviet Union political dissidents are routinely placed in insane asylums. The same kind of thing, a little more subtle perhaps, occurs here: 'did you hear what Lenny Bruce said yesterday? He must be crazy.' When high on cannabis I discovered that there's somebody inside in those people we call mad."
In addition, it helped him to better understand himself:
"When I'm high I can penetrate into the past, recall childhood memories, friends, relatives, playthings, streets, smells, sounds, and tastes from a vanished era. I can reconstruct the actual occurrences in childhood events only half understood at the time. Many but not all my cannabis trips have somewhere in them a symbolism significant to me which I won't attempt to describe here, a kind of mandala embossed on the high. Free-associating to this mandala, both visually and as plays on words, has produced a very rich array of insights."
He found that the drug was able to help him understand art and music in ways he had never been able to before:
"The cannabis experience has greatly improved my appreciation for art, a subject which I had never much appreciated before. The understanding of the intent of the artist which I can achieve when high sometimes carries over to when I'm down. This is one of many human frontiers which cannabis has helped me traverse… A very similar improvement in my appreciation of music has occurred with cannabis. For the first time I have been able to hear the separate parts of a three-part harmony and the richness of the counterpoint. I have since discovered that professional musicians can quite easily keep many separate parts going simultaneously in their heads, but this was the first time for me."
He also thought it dramatically improved his sex life, as he analytically explains here:
"Cannabis also enhances the enjoyment of sex on the one hand it gives an exquisite sensitivity… the actual duration of orgasm seems to lengthen greatly, but this may be the usual experience of time expansion which comes with cannabis smoking."
Lastly, he argues for outright legalization in light of these benefits:
"The illegality of cannabis is outrageous, an impediment to full utilization of a drug which helps produce the serenity and insight, sensitivity and fellowship so desperately needed in this increasingly mad and dangerous world." Was he alone in his views on drugs among other academics?
His view on marijuana is similar to the view of Aldous Huxley on harder psychedelics. Both men thought that psychotropic drugs could change our perception from our usual, survival-oriented mode to one that allows for a unique sensory perception and reflective thought patterns which both society and our psychology are structured to keep at bay. Huxley wrote an entire book, The Doors of Perception, on this phenomenon which he called the "Mind at Large." Did Sagan’s drug use affect his work?
Yes, but he thought it was for the better. He claimed that one high lead to:
"…an idea on the origins and invalidities of racism in terms of Gaussian distribution curves. It was a point obvious in a way, but rarely talked about. I drew the curves in soap on the shower wall, and went to write the idea down. One idea led to another, and at the end of about an hour of extremely hard work I found I had written eleven short essays on a wide range of social, political, philosophical, and human biological topics… I have used them in university commencement addresses, public lectures, and in my books."
He also argued that it allowed him to better understand social issues, which he began to comment on more frequently in his later years. Though it must be noted that he didn't list any specific instances in his article of any great ideas devised while high. We can only take him at his word.
Of course, these supposed benefits took place because of his temperance and skepticism to the idea that every highdea was brilliant. This means that you shouldn't think that you're going to be the next big thing in science education just because you smoke a joint. Sagan's endorsement also doesn't negate the adverse side effects of the stuff that comes along with heavy usage; such as reduced motivation, memory issues, and an inability to create long-term plans.
As marijuana becomes increasingly legal, accepted, and commonplace we will have to answer questions about what it can do for us, both good and bad. While individual accounts should always be viewed with caution, the input of as intelligent a smoker as Carl Sagan is a valuable addition to any discussion on the subject.
NASA / JPL
The famous Pale Blue Dot photograph of Earth taken by the Voyager spacecraft. Imagine if Sagan's famous lecture on the image—one of the most famous passages in popular science—was influenced by his drug use...
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