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OfflineZutroye
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All drugs should be legalised - detective
    #2587519 - 04/21/04 05:59 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

http://www.stuff.co.nz/stuff/0,2106,2881903a11,00.html

All drugs should be legalised - detective
21 April 2004

A visiting former Scotland Yard drugs boss is calling for all drugs, from marijuana and methamphetamines to cocaine and opiates, to be legalised.


And the retired detective chief superintendent is going further, calling for state-sponsored hard drugs for addicts.

Eddie Ellison said he believes prohibition on drugs is costing a fortune and helping no one but criminals involved with drug dealing.

Mr Ellison, who left for Melbourne today, was visiting New Zealand with the American-based Law Enforcement Against Prohibition (Leap) group, which campaigns for drug regulation over prohibition.

Mr Ellison said in Britain, police are moving away from prosecutions of small-time marijuana users, instead issuing verbal warnings.

In Britain, it costs about $25,000 to arrest and prosecute a person on a minor drugs charge but the financial penalty to the offender is only about $100.

"Prohibition isn't achieving anything. It's making it worse," he said.

Heroin and other hard-drug users could be given subsidised drug doses, which would stop forcing them to commit crimes to finance their habits.

Once the users had a guaranteed low-cost supply of the drug, they could get on with their lives, he said.

Mr Ellison said a British heroin addict must steal about $5000 worth of goods a day to finance a $500-a-day habit - a habit the Government could supplement for about $1.25.

Prior to his involvement with Leap, the retired detective spent most of his 30 years on the force with the criminal investigation department of London Metropolitan Police.

Mr Ellison, who admitted to being astonished by the lack of discussion about drug legalisation in New Zealand, has met government officials in Wellington.

"There's no doubt there's a discussion going on about policies, but that's not being held in the public arena."


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Re: All drugs should be legalised - detective [Re: Zutroye]
    #2591253 - 04/22/04 03:40 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

wow, thats very interesting. especially comming from a country where even salvia is illeagal (maybe im thinking australia).


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OfflineJuanMatus
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Re: All drugs should be legalised - detective [Re: Zutroye]
    #2592641 - 04/22/04 10:53 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The US goverment intercepted a shipment of Hashish, they said terrorists were shipping to the US to fund terrorism, add this to the bumper crop of opium from Afganistan which to some level will also be used to fund terrorist activity, and you have all the reasons needed to say legalize drugs. If drugs were legal there would be no profit in it for criminals. There are not a lot of bootleggers or numbers runners in the US since the government got into those rackets. No profit margin no crime.


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OfflineDailyPot
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Re: All drugs should be legalised - detective [Re: Trip]
    #2606398 - 04/27/04 02:48 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Legalization makes perfect sense, prohibition we ALREADY learned doesn't work, yet we're still doing it.

Quote:

Trip said:
wow, thats very interesting. especially comming from a country where even salvia is illeagal (maybe im thinking australia).



Yeah its Australia.


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Re: All drugs should be legalised - detective [Re: Zutroye]
    #2607107 - 04/27/04 05:29 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Exactly right if drugs were legal then what would be point in organizations to "smuggle" any of it. Like already said no profit margin no crime. If they can't make the money from it they quit doing it. Look at alcohol when it was illegal it made crime go up and when it was lagal again alcohol related crime went away.


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Re: All drugs should be legalised - detective [Re: DailyPot]
    #2607389 - 04/27/04 06:44 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

silly me


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OfflinejamboUK
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Re: All drugs should be legalised - detective [Re: Trip]
    #2626142 - 05/01/04 03:32 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

The comedian Ben Elton wrote a pretty good novel recently all about if all drugs were to be legalised in Britain. It's called High Society, if you want to look for it. It's pretty one-sided (on the side of legalisation), but it does make you think about the different aspects of society that would be affected. E.g. a lot less drug crime.

That statistic above is amazing... stealing ?2500 a day from shops and stuff, when the government could just give it to them for 50p. Crazy.


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OfflinejamboUK
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Re: All drugs should be legalised - detective [Re: jamboUK]
    #2626168 - 05/01/04 03:39 PM (12 years, 7 months ago)

Quick bit of maths:

$5000 / $1.25 = 4000

Therefore heroin costs society 4000 times more than it would do without prohibition.

At least the government's winning the war on drugs though, so it's all worth it...


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