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elpico said:
Thanks, Judge.  Been thoroughly enjoying your recent contributions as well.  Keep em coming! 

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Of course, helluva flush on those, really good pics! and hell yeah, thank you man! I definitely will!

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Adas said:
Why "insult"? Maybe trade more prints with them or something. Don't be afraid to ask for what you want, especially on this site. People here are more generous than any other place perhaps, in my experience. I've received very many spore prints and the people wanted nothing in return.

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Mycoplex said:
Hi all, does anyone happen to know of any vendors that have either Hoogshagenii or Hispanica spores available?  These are somewhat hard to come across and I don't want to insult members through a trade because I don't really have anything that is in the same league.

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Apart from the cube jar, there are these subs marked semi/fine and Hispanica fruiting now:





Hopefully they are not more fimetaria

Edit 31/5



Something is coming

Also consider this

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smalltalk_canceled said:
Another culture labeled "Hispanica" throwing these fimetaria like fruits on agar



Except - no veil remnant!

The mystery continues..

Compare to this:



Which is fimetaria or something else

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Hindsight said:
Has anyone had success growing zaps or paps without any kind of grain, including BRF? I'm talking about going from LC directly to a substrate that has no grain of any type in it (probably a straw/compost mix). I've not had luck with Paps on grain at all. They really don't seem to like it, though I've only tried on rye and not BRF cakes or BRF+Straw+compost+etc cakes.

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Both times I fruited Papuana, I started with my grain mix, oats, barley, millet, annual RGS in equal volumes. I also made a bag of WBR and pearled barley to test for active mycelium, it colonized with no problem. My mycelium wasn't active BTW.

https://mycotopia.net/topic/110938-psilocybe-papuana/page-1

I haven't fruited zaps yet but zap and Australian sect zapo both take to my grain mix well. Here is zap 'Chicon Nindo' on 1Tbsp oats and 1 Tbsp barley about ready to g2g to a pint of mixed grains.



It's twin was transferred to a pint of mixed grains 2 nights ago.

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Hindsight said:
Has anyone had success growing zaps or paps without any kind of grain, including BRF? I'm talking about going from LC directly to a substrate that has no grain of any type in it (probably a straw/compost mix). I've not had luck with Paps on grain at all. They really don't seem to like it, though I've only tried on rye and not BRF cakes or BRF+Straw+compost+etc cakes.

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I work exclusively grain free with exotics. I directly inoculate containers(bags, jars, etc...) of sterilized substrate with LC. For me, exotics move too slowly to deal with grain, but many people here work with it and have no problems. After waiting however many months it takes to fully colonize the substrate I then remove the lid/bag top, case and set into fruiting conditions.

Zaps and paups both should work with just straw/verm/brf. I've had them grow just fine on all sorts of simple and complicated recipes. However, if you do go with a complicated recipe make sure that your extra ingredients don't change the PH of the substrate too much. Proper PH = bioavailable nutrients. I've found that both of those species work well with a little bit of clay added in the mix, so my straw/verm/brf containers usually have a reddish color. I had a 1lb bag of that recipe with zaps fruit for almost two years strait before I accidently drowned it.

If you are having trouble with pinning you likely have selected a culture that is a stubborn fruiter. My suggestion would be to select several cultures from the same germination and fruit them all side by side with small mason jars of substrate to find your fruiter. OR leave some plates out and clone an eventual dish pin.