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chaka333
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Feasoghorm


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Re: Mega PE Grow [Re: chaka333]
#25872195 - 03/13/19 05:13 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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Well, i hydrated the subs to field capacity. I side watered #1 when the pins really started coming in. It drank it all. Side watered #2 at the same time jst to get an idea of what was going on and it didnt drink any. Sucked it back out with turkey baster. There must be something i dnt understand yet. I figure if you water a sub and it drinks it then it needed water, ya? How cud that push me over field capacity. Will it drink more that it needs and fuck up my grow?
#2 and #3 are jst doing there thing. Gotta make more casing cuz #2 peaking tru and to patch what gets removed from #1.
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rickyswamps
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I don't think you had enough pins to warrant any extra watering.
Im not really sure if it will soak up more than field capacity. If you just put coir in a tub it will take in more water than field capacity. Its just more wet, but absorbed But it seems that when the sub is fully colonized its much more resistant to absorption.
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Feasoghorm


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Hmm. Im kinda upset a little.
So what do i do now with #1, #2, and #3?
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rickyswamps
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You have shrooms So everything is good!
Im not really a PE expert. Don't know if too thick of a casing could be hurting your pinning, or too damp of a case.
For what little cubes I've cased, just keep the casing damp, but not too wet, and gave it FAE.
These are unmodified 100qt tubs? Have to had a success in them before? could be an air exchange issue.
Are the other 2 tubs not pinning?
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Feasoghorm


Registered: 10/24/18
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#2 shud start pinning this friday, and #3 about four days after that.
My casings are about 1/2" thick.
Unmodded yes. Well i grew a tub of B+ that turned out all short shrooms as well. That sub was dry. Last PE grow i got one short fat bastard, but i put that sud thru hell.
Fae...well, over the last week i been removing the lid and leaving it off for hours. So prolly good on fae.
But i really need to know what the fuck is going on here. Something is causing my shit to be all stunted and i dnt like it at all. I have a hard time believing that it's just because the sub is too wet. My B+ did same thing and it was way dry, so idk bout that.
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cronicr



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Sub might be a tad wet. Ninja edit what pasty said
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Pastywhyte
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Re: Mega PE Grow [Re: cronicr]
#25872428 - 03/13/19 06:55 PM (5 years, 10 months ago) |
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I wouldn’t bottom water any bulk unless it had a crazy pinset and the fruits were at least an inch tall. Bottoms watering early will mess everything up. Good news is that the second flush will probably make up for it.
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Pastywhyte
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Bottom water something like this

To get this

Don’t bottom water this

As there is plenty of water in the sub already to support those fruits. Bottom watering at that point will hurt your yield not help it.
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Feasoghorm


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Ahh...gotcha. Well ass and balls, i already fucked it up. Guess i jst gotta let it dry a bit and hopefully she'll pump out some 2nd flush dongers. Kinda sounds like tub #2 is gonna do the same thing for the first flush.
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staytrippy420



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thanks for that pasty, now I understand bottom watering.... kind of. lol
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SFS96
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Quote:
Timboslice said: Did your shit pump out some fatties 2nd flush? I feel like i need more stable genetics but i figure i gotta have something to trade.
I’m still waiting on my second flush it’s taking forever to pin. I’m worried I might have burnt the mycelium using too much lime in the casing, I had no way to check the ph. I just used lot kids PE tips casing but maybe my lime was different than what he uses.
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vikingsc
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Re: Mega PE Grow [Re: SFS96]
#25876011 - 03/15/19 02:15 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Feasoghorm


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Re: Mega PE Grow [Re: vikingsc]
#25876035 - 03/15/19 02:27 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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Why are some of my caps turing blue? Im guessing this will happen if you leave the lid off most of the day and only mist when the casing starts drying on the top. The caps drying a bit or something?
I actually jst misted b4 the pic. The fruits were all kinda white ashy looking. Never seen that before.
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Thesunbeam
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They look fine
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LotKid
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Quote:
Pastywhyte said: I wouldn’t bottom water any bulk unless it had a crazy pinset and the fruits were at least an inch tall. Bottoms watering early will mess everything up. Good news is that the second flush will probably make up for it.

I don't bottom water during the first flush. It'll get too wet. And yes casing being too thick or too wet will hurt and not help you as well. Trust me.
As far as them getting kinda white and ashy... that's them getting dry and telling you they could use a drink. (i.e misting)
I would've cut some holes in that tub for fae but that's just me. I would've used a few more holes than I would've for classic cubes as well.
You should learn a lot from this. 
Oh yeah! And...
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Feasoghorm


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Re: Mega PE Grow [Re: LotKid]
#25879100 - 03/16/19 11:56 PM (5 years, 9 months ago) |
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God fucking damnit!! I cant help but be really pissed about this. Now i basically have one fucking ounce from this first flush on this first tub, and im basically jst waiting for the other two tubs to do the same fucking thing. I have a shit feeling that im not getting a second flush outta tub #1 either.
Fuck...all that time and shit down the drain. All because my sub needed to be mixed a drop or two dryer? That must be what it is cuz my b+ came out all shrimp dick too. It really pisses me off to have to throw 2 months of preperation away. I cant express how much i really didnt need this right now. Weak, jst fucking weak.
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rickyswamps
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Hang in there buddy. If you have a less than optimal first flush, the 2nd can be way better. Throw some pics up of the tubs, maybe someone can give some pointers.
Growing things is part science, part experience, and a smaller part art(green thumb). Takes time to learn and get the experience to do it well. Keep after improving the results and you'll get what you are looking for.
Start up some more spores or jars to get the process rolling.
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Feasoghorm


Registered: 10/24/18
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Yeah, your right. Ok. Jst throwing a tantrum.
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LotKid
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