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    #25869867 - 03/12/19 02:27 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

So I found these in north eastern Arizona about 4K elevation they look like p. Aztecorum but wanted some feedback if that is correct. It’s growing in horse manure. And I read that they usually grow on wood and dead leafs, will add pictures soon not sure how right now buts it’s a white stalk with a yellowish tan/brown cap. It’s about 2 inches tall so far and cap hasn’t separated from stalk this is a picture from 2 days ago will uploaded new one later


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: shroominberg]
    #25869885 - 03/12/19 02:33 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Put the manure with the mushrooms in a plastic container and let them mature. Hard to tell species when they're so young.

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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Anglerfish]
    #25869894 - 03/12/19 02:35 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

It is not possible to ID these without photos of mature specimens, put them in a tupperware for a day or 2.

It looks like Psilocybe but I don't think it is.

Here are some Psilocybe that I have found in Arizona:  https://mushroomobserver.org/250642


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Alan Rockefeller]
    #25870191 - 03/12/19 04:43 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

okay so i just got back home, and they grew a little more sense this morning the caps are just starting to open up and turn back white so hopefully by tomorrow i can add pictures of the belly.and in one of the pics one of the stalk is cracked, not sure if thats due to over watering or i read verticillium but not seaing any coloration around it.but i did see about four or five more starting to sprout at the base and one on the other side of the jug. aswell sorry if the pictures arent the best taking them with the iphone x. 






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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: shroominberg]
    #25870194 - 03/12/19 04:46 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Look like antillarum.. ... ...but the stems are really white... hmmm


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Steveinshell]
    #25870491 - 03/12/19 07:43 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Looks like some type of Coprinoid


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Pluviophile]
    #25870606 - 03/12/19 09:01 PM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Looks like Panaeolus semiovatus.


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Duggstar]
    #25871245 - 03/13/19 07:42 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

So duggstar I think your correct so here are the pics from this morning i will get better pictures of belly when i get home from work.







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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Duggstar]
    #25871281 - 03/13/19 08:08 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

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Looks like Panaeolus semiovatus.




Yep. You're right


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: shroominberg]
    #25871345 - 03/13/19 08:59 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Indeed. Thanks for the update OP.


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Duggstar]
    #25871400 - 03/13/19 09:51 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

thank y’all for helping me identifying this bad boy. Love learning about this stuff, :mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2::mushroom2:
Now to search a shit ton more on this species.


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: shroominberg]
    #25871480 - 03/13/19 10:33 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

Nothing like a pile shit to get you interested in mushrooms :shrug: I can literally spend hours on a dung pile looking at mushrooms.


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Duggstar]
    #25871490 - 03/13/19 10:35 AM (2 months, 8 days ago)

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Panaeolus semiovatus.




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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: shroominberg]
    #25872141 - 03/13/19 04:48 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)

so here are the pictures of the belly and spore print



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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: Doc9151]
    #25872244 - 03/13/19 05:38 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)

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Nothing like a pile shit to get you interested in mushrooms :shrug: I can literally spend hours on a dung pile looking at mushrooms.




thats how I got into it.  I thought the only magic ones grew on cow shit when i first learned about active mushrooms. then I wanted to know about the ones i can cook and medicinal ones.  once youre hooked, you're hooked


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: bloodycarcass]
    #25872476 - 03/13/19 07:13 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)

That print looks jet black to me.


That was always the hard thing to do, telling the difference from really really dark brown to jet black.

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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: bloodycarcass]
    #25872483 - 03/13/19 07:15 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)

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Nothing like a pile shit to get you interested in mushrooms :shrug: I can literally spend hours on a dung pile looking at mushrooms.




thats how I got into it.  I thought the only magic ones grew on cow shit when i first learned about active mushrooms. then I wanted to know about the ones i can cook and medicinal ones.  once youre hooked, you're hooked





I tend to agree. Mushrooms are so fun. I'm into growing reishi, two strains of shiitake, and two strains of oysters right now.


It's neat. I don't mess around with actives, but someday I might!


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    #25872808 - 03/13/19 09:45 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)

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Nothing like a pile shit to get you interested in mushrooms :shrug: I can literally spend hours on a dung pile looking at mushrooms.




thats how I got into it.  I thought the only magic ones grew on cow shit when i first learned about active mushrooms. then I wanted to know about the ones i can cook and medicinal ones.  once youre hooked, you're hooked






yeah see thats what i thought as well but this one is a little on the edge some say it has psychoactive compounds in it but some say that its none edible do to digestive issues. still doing research. made prints and letting the two i have dry out.

but yeah i started out with actives and the conversations i would have with myself while on them made me want to do more research and after that i was pretty much in love.


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: shroominberg]
    #25872937 - 03/13/19 11:34 PM (2 months, 7 days ago)

I am surprised to see finds of these in Canada.  Alan, do you think they'd make it in one of those lowland piney grassy spots in the Mid-Atlantic?  Or is it chilly in their Mexican habitat, because of the elevation?  I never paid much attention to those spots outside of blewit season anyway.


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Re: Possible new Psilocybe from Eastern Arizona [Re: stevo]
    #25873031 - 03/14/19 01:02 AM (2 months, 7 days ago)

when i found this it was about 43 degrees F. day and dropping below 36 degrees F. at night. it was the only one i found just starting to form. the Elevation was about 6,000′ around show low,AZ usa


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