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Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well
    #25867903 - 03/11/19 04:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Hey there friendly people

TLDR: If taken together, ice cream may block the effects of mushrooms.

The other week sibling 1 and I were at sibling 2's house and decided to take shrooms. He'd hadn't tried them yet but also hadn't ever seen anyone on them. My sister had only done them once before this.

I started with chocolate I made that was 1.5 g, it started to hit after about 20 minutes.

At this point, my sibling 1 decides they'd like to eat some too, so we crush up two bowls of 1.5g each and mix them up with chocolate ice cream and we each have one. This being their first dose of the night, and my second.

An hour later, I'm only a little higher than I was off of the chocolate, and they weren't that high at all. They reported a minor body stone, but not much effect and no visuals.

The other day my sibling 2 messages me saying they just took some for the first time, 2g in ice cream using the same method. they don't get that high and are pretty surprised because they expected more. They said they had a good first experience chilling with their spouse.

All the mushrooms were from the same batch, including the ones in the chocolate I made. They're PE and above average in potency, I've had more than one friend say they got fractals on the walls after half a chocolate (under a gram). They were cracker dry as well. I'm just trying to account for possible variables that could have affected the trip.

I think the ice cream somehow blocks the absorption of actives. I hypothesized that the alkaline nature of fatty sugary dairy may stop your stomach acid from dephosphorylating the psilocybin into psilocin. I saw someone else post that they think it coats your stomach and slows digestion.

Whatever the case, lemon tek works.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: DJmonkeyballer]
    #25867914 - 03/11/19 04:10 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Makes tea, freeze the tea, shave the frozen cube and make shroom icies.

2g is childs play. Try 5 next time. It ain't the ice cream.

Or get some albino penis envy
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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: mushboy]
    #25867939 - 03/11/19 04:26 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Anything will absorb into eachother, so thats why people eat on empty stomaches, let alone the people who dont mix shrooms with tea, candy, or ice cream.

I understand shrooms taste like dogshit coming out of a diarrhea asshole, but thats the flavor chosen to show its natural, and potent.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: Chakanooga] * 1
    #25867967 - 03/11/19 04:47 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I've eaten shrooms with ice cream and tripped fine.... You must have had weak mushrooms

Edit: NVM it's likely you didn't chew the mushrooms enough or break them down enough before eating and digested them whole. That's the only way I could see it not being a potency issue


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: tacodude] * 1
    #25868804 - 03/11/19 11:43 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Ice cream doesn't block the effect of shrooms lol.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: viraldrome]
    #25868855 - 03/12/19 12:29 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Mushrooms grown in the same tub can have wildly different potencies. Particularly from MS grows.

It's entirely possible you guys just had a string of bad luck, and picked all the duds out.

To avoid this problem in the future, you could grind up larger amounts at a time; like an ounce or so. Then just measure out the homogenized powder for more consistent doses.

or just pick some fruits based on aesthetics and hope for the best :mushroom2:


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: DJmonkeyballer]
    #25869021 - 03/12/19 05:23 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Ice cream has no effect.

But if the ice cream was somehow mixed with active probiotics, then yes it could be the ice cream. But i know of no ice cream with active probiotics in it.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25869058 - 03/12/19 06:12 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Probiotics would not destroy psilocybin.... If that was the case no one found eat mushrooms with yogurt. Where do people get these ideas? Also there's plenty of ice cream with probiotics... I used to get a frozen keifer that was amazing.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: tacodude]
    #25869105 - 03/12/19 07:13 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Ive made a "smoothie" using DanActive, which has a specific Active Probiotic in it and mixed it with shrooms. Half way thru my come up, my trip was "aborted" and i sobered up about 90%. It was really strange.

Here was the original thread: https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/21046888#21046888


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25869841 - 03/12/19 02:17 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

What is the reasoning behind this besides the trip was aborted as it wouldn't work that way. Once it is absorbed and active the probiotic enzymes can't access it in the CNS as it would be in the gut. I'll check the thread, but it sounds like something else happened.

Edit: I have taken mushrooms while using probiotic capsules and have eaten it in yogurt... Again probiotics don't destroy psilocybin nor could they abort a trip once it is started. It sounds a lot like tolerance and low doses


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: tacodude]
    #25870264 - 03/12/19 05:21 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Why in the world would you mix mushrooms with ice cream?

I like the shaved mushroom ice idea...

Save the ice cream for the comedown... i eat very light or nothing at all for many hours before my shrooms.  Then eat your shrooms and get over the peak then go smash a pint of Ben and Jerry's fish food.  The little fish pieces are really confusing in your mouth when you're tripping... ...but it tastes fantastic

I think high doses of sugar and other carbs dull out the effects if you eat the sugar and carbs beforehand.

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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: tacodude]
    #25870393 - 03/12/19 06:40 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Perhaps. I only tried it once so i cannot confirm completely. It could be only that one strain of bacterial, Lact Casei. Dont know :shrug:


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
    #25871611 - 03/13/19 11:53 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

The cold reduces sensitivity to taste it seems along with the ice cream flavor making the mushrooms. Don't knock it till you've tried it


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: tacodude]
    #25871643 - 03/13/19 12:09 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Shrooms effect best in an acidic stomachs.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: Buckthorn]
    #25871884 - 03/13/19 02:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I love the taste of mushrooms.  When they're dry they taste like the cracker of christ the priest gave us at communion as youths.

I don't understand people complaining so much about them.

I have had past their prime mushrooms that were all sour and gross but i dry mine and store them properly and they just have kind of an earthy taste.  My cincts from horse poo piles are admittedly gritty ...but nothing so bad i'm gagging on it.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: Steveinshell]
    #25872169 - 03/13/19 05:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

It's more like oatmeal flavored peanut shell textured


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: Svetaketu]
    #25880554 - 03/17/19 05:03 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

Svetaketu said:
Mushrooms grown in the same tub can have wildly different potencies. Particularly from MS grows.

It's entirely possible you guys just had a string of bad luck, and picked all the duds out.

To avoid this problem in the future, you could grind up larger amounts at a time; like an ounce or so. Then just measure out the homogenized powder for more consistent doses.
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They were from genetics isolated on agar.

The ones in the chocolate I'd ground to a powder. But the ones in ice cream I busted with my fingers as good as I could, which was pretty small. My brother wouldn't let me use his coffee grinder lol.

But do a search, other users have had the same experience in the past with ice cream, that's why I thought it was relevant to post my experience.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: mushboy]
    #25880590 - 03/17/19 05:17 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Quote:

mushboy said:

2g is childs play. Try 5 next time.

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Is that your experience? You know dosage is based on body weight.

Try 8 next time. Make sure to add a fluid oz of passion flower extract. Then report back.


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: DJmonkeyballer]
    #25880627 - 03/17/19 05:34 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

my personal experience? no. it is yours tho. you took 2g. not that strong. imo 2g isnt. so take a bit more.

2-3g is the theatrical release. you need that 5g directors cut man:awesome:

also why in the world would i adulterate the wonderful mushrooms with passion flower extract?:confused:


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Re: Shrooms in ice cream doesn't work well [Re: mushboy]
    #25881183 - 03/17/19 11:56 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

The fact you broke them up differently says a lot.... Mushrooms are comprised of chitosan, which is the same thing that a lobster shell is formed from, and if you don't break it down enough it could come out whole. There's a good chance that's your issue in that specific incident.

Like seriously there's no logic behind this concept that ice cream prevents mushrooms from working. I'd be curious to set what would happen if someone ate the fruit bodies as intact as possible without chewing and see how it affects their trip

Edit: 2 g isn't much unless they are wood lovers and 5 grams is too much even of cubes to start.  3-4 grams is a good average range.

Passion flower should potentate having harmala alkaloids be it neurotoxic ones... better off using rue or caapi if possible


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