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    #25851219 - 03/04/19 05:23 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

At this point, he still has my vote.

America first, WOOOOO!

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25851228 - 03/04/19 05:34 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Any cluey picks humanity as one tribe. If you want world peace that is.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #25851234 - 03/04/19 05:40 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

If Ted Cruz cleans himself up, I would take a look.

I don't think he's red blooded enough.

I will be watching.


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    #25851238 - 03/04/19 05:49 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25851263 - 03/04/19 06:15 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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At this point, he still has my vote.

America first. Anything else and you lose my vote.







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    #25851301 - 03/04/19 07:06 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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At this point, he still has my vote.

America first.





What in his activities as a president has you convinced that his works match his rhetoric and that he actually puts America's interests over that of the Oligarchy?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Asante] * 5
    #25851320 - 03/04/19 07:21 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Slash regs, regs on under 18 apprentice labor, slash individual mandate, slash taxes, wall is going up, great economy, record low unemployment for black and Hispanic, holding NATO allies responsible for more payment, pulling troops out of war, SK meetings, confirmation of many great judges, us embassy in Jerusalem, pull out of Paris climate, travel ban on terrorist regions, patriotism, America first attitude, hard on China, and a guy who doesn't define half of America as deplorable racists.

He is everything the green new deal isn't, which is great!


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    #25851340 - 03/04/19 07:32 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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a guy who doesn't define half of America as deplorable racists.




A guy who finds nothing deplorable about actual racism.


Don't get me wrong I want Trump 2020 too, but so that the republicans will NEVER EVER vote a person like him into power again and will re-focus on actual performance instead of who has the biggest mouth and wallet.

America needs a humbling. It needs to get fucked hard by its own dick, and for that reason I want you guys to re-elect it - so it can finish the job it intended all along.

Trump is Mother Nature's Fuck You to America - to destroy it by its own greed with which it was already destroyig the rest of the world.

Why turn much of the world into a wasteland if it can be done so much more cost effectively right at home?

Trump 2020 - Let Babylon Burn.


Precisely because I want the best for America and the world, your unavoidable crisis must come NOW and not in 2024 when the average American is even more weakened. A later crisis will be a worse crisis. The sooner you fall on your face the sooner you are backi on your feet and the less severe your injuries.

HIT ROCK BOTTOM.


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    #25851343 - 03/04/19 07:35 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

A guy who doesn't blindly accuse swaths of people he doesn't know.

:cookiemonster:


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    #25851345 - 03/04/19 07:36 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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A guy who doesn't blindly accuse swaths of people he doesn't know.

:cookiemonster:





He said some choice things about Mexicans in general.


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    #25851346 - 03/04/19 07:37 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Mexico is a country, not a race.


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    #25851347 - 03/04/19 07:38 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Swaths of people arent races either.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Asante] * 1
    #25851354 - 03/04/19 07:43 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Swaths of people being condemned only is a concern when a certain swath is singled out. I would like that to change


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    #25851361 - 03/04/19 07:48 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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Swaths of people arent races either.




I never said they were.

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    #25851372 - 03/04/19 07:59 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Neither did I allege you intended such :cookiemonster:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 2
    #25851377 - 03/04/19 08:05 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

XUL, if Trump were given a one hundred-dollar bill, who do you think he would give it to?

A) Starving African human being
B) American homeless human being
C) American mentally challenged human being
D) Some honky-brother on Wall Street

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    #25851384 - 03/04/19 08:10 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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Quote:

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A guy who doesn't blindly accuse swaths of people he doesn't know.

:cookiemonster:





He said some choice things about Mexicans in general.




Yes, many of the illegals coming into the US from Mexico are criminals, so Trump was 100% correct on that statement.

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    #25851386 - 03/04/19 08:12 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Maybe it would depend on who gave it to him.


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    #25851387 - 03/04/19 08:12 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

You know it's his honky brother on Wall St.

Money in the bag. :wink:

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    #25851404 - 03/04/19 08:28 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Trump has been a massive failure.

1. US trade deficits at all-time record highs.

2. US Federal deficits exploding higher.

3. Tax cuts only for corporations and the wealthy.

4. Growing wealth and income inequality.

5. Illegals still living and working in the US, no deportations.

6. Trump has called for an increase for legal immigration.

7. No infrastructure investment, he promised trillions, the end result is $0.

8. No manufacturing jobs coming back to the US, in fact many manufacturing jobs are still leaving the nation.

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    #25851417 - 03/04/19 08:35 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

I'm not well-versed in American politics but if that is true he sure is one cruel piece of thing. A puppy for big shot money makers orchestrated by New York Stock Exchange.

His wall is just games, distraction.

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    #25851419 - 03/04/19 08:38 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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Trump has been a massive failure.

1. US trade deficits at all-time record highs.

2. US Federal deficits exploding higher.

3. Tax cuts only for corporations and the wealthy.

4. Growing wealth and income inequality.

5. Illegals still living and working in the US, no deportations.

6. Trump has called for an increase for legal immigration.

7. No infrastructure investment, he promised trillions, the end result is $0.

8. No manufacturing jobs coming back to the US, in fact many manufacturing jobs are still leaving the nation.




Add absolutely no help with solving our Social Security program even though he said he would


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    #25851423 - 03/04/19 08:39 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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Trump has been a massive failure.

1. US trade deficits at all-time record highs.

2. US Federal deficits exploding higher.

3. Tax cuts only for corporations and the wealthy.

4. Growing wealth and income inequality.

5. Illegals still living and working in the US, no deportations.

6. Trump has called for an increase for legal immigration.

7. No infrastructure investment, he promised trillions, the end result is $0.

8. No manufacturing jobs coming back to the US, in fact many manufacturing jobs are still leaving the nation.





Trump 2016 was only the overture of the grand opera of fail that Trump 2020 will be.



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    #25851455 - 03/04/19 08:57 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

It's a shame that reason wasn't enough. Instead we have to vote for the dumbass just to prove a point.


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    #25851456 - 03/04/19 08:57 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

What do you think income inequality means for the country? Tell me how you feel on the subject.


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    #25851473 - 03/04/19 09:08 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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What do you think income inequality means for the country? Tell me how you feel on the subject.




The growing wealth and income inequality destroys the fabric of the nation. This is what happens when big money takes over government. The ultimate goal of capitalists is to create debt slaves out of the peasants and thus far its been mission accomplished.

There is no turning around this ship in my opinion, there is no driving to a voting booth to fix it. As the debt in the system continues to grow, the worse it's going to get for the peasants.

The next goal is to cut off the peasants from the current social services, it's inevitable.

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    #25851483 - 03/04/19 09:12 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

How much of the population is unequal from each other, do you think?


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    #25851529 - 03/04/19 09:51 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

The world looks at the first election of trump as a mistake. A second election they will lose all respect for the US. Not that we have a lot left. They middle of the country will fare even worse. The Democratic portions of the country are the economic engines and we are just going to write off the magaheads are worthless trash who are driving this country into the dump. Not that we don’t already think that.


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    #25851536 - 03/04/19 09:55 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Hey man, if there is someone better than Trump, then I am all in.

Until then, I am a Trumper.


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    #25851538 - 03/04/19 09:58 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

A random person chosen out of the phone book is more competent than trump


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    #25851542 - 03/04/19 10:00 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Oh hehe haha.

But seriously. And I mean in the conservative side of course.

Otherwise, I should just stop voting at all.


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    #25851558 - 03/04/19 10:10 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.


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    #25851567 - 03/04/19 10:14 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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Quote:

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What do you think income inequality means for the country? Tell me how you feel on the subject.




The growing wealth and income inequality destroys the fabric of the nation. This is what happens when big money takes over government. The ultimate goal of capitalists is to create debt slaves out of the peasants and thus far its been mission accomplished.

There is no turning around this ship in my opinion, there is no driving to a voting booth to fix it. As the debt in the system continues to grow, the worse it's going to get for the peasants.

The next goal is to cut off the peasants from the current social services, it's inevitable.





Thats why the system must crash sooner rather than later, so that the population is not further weakened, debt is not further increased and the income inequality isnt as skewed as it will be. No matter whether you vote donkey or elephant, you'll get the Oligarchy's choice, so the only shot is the canduidate who fucks up the system so badly that it ceases to function and needs to be restarted. Not a president to save the plane but one to run it into the ground as soon as possible because of executive incompetence. That's Trump.

Sometimes a system must be replaced. This will only be done if it fails, catastrophically.

TRUMP 2020.


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    #25851581 - 03/04/19 10:19 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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The world looks at the first election of trump as a mistake. A second election they will lose all respect for the US. Not that we have a lot left. They middle of the country will fare even worse. The Democratic portions of the country are the economic engines and we are just going to write off the magaheads are worthless trash who are driving this country into the dump. Not that we don’t already think that.




Much of the world wouldn't respect Hillary being US President, so who cares what some of them might think?

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    #25851591 - 03/04/19 10:22 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.




Everything you just stated applies to every politician, including the "liberals" in the Democratic Party.

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    #25851599 - 03/04/19 10:26 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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How much of the population is unequal from each other, do you think?




https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/11/09/the-3-richest-americans-hold-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-of-country-study-finds/#2303a06e3cf8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

"Bottom 80% owning 7%...financial assets"




And what do you propose we do?

Second, would you turn this country socialist in order to solve wealth inequality?


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    #25851610 - 03/04/19 10:35 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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Quote:

XUL said:
How much of the population is unequal from each other, do you think?




https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/11/09/the-3-richest-americans-hold-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-of-country-study-finds/#2303a06e3cf8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

"Bottom 80% owning 7%...financial assets"




And what do you propose we do?

Second, would you turn this country socialist in order to solve wealth inequality?




Well, it's not by pure chance how we got here, it's deliberate. So do the opposite of the policies that got us here.

This power grab can't be done in the current political system, people don't just give away power and wealth to peasants driving to the voting booth. :lol:

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    #25851622 - 03/04/19 10:38 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

So you declare our case hopeless?

No way man.

What would you do to fix it if you could do anything?


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The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.




Everything you just stated applies to every politician, including the "liberals" in the Democratic Party.




While I don't disagree, I also don't think it's that black and white. There are degrees of effectualness at play. One side definitively is less bad, and the other is more bad, neither are 100% good or bad. You just have to sort out the nonsense.


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    #25851723 - 03/04/19 11:09 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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So you declare our case hopeless?

No way man.

What would you do to fix it if you could do anything?



Do you think TRUMP will fix it?

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    #25851741 - 03/04/19 11:17 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

You cared what our neighbors and allies thought of us when BHO was president. What changed? :strokebeard:


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    #25851759 - 03/04/19 11:26 AM (5 years, 25 days ago)

He thought crazy primary trump was going to turn into serious buisiness leader president trump , but he got even crazier primary trump who defends North Korean concentration camp murderers instead . So now trump voters have to pretend nothing matters anymore . What choice do they have ?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2] * 1
    #25851948 - 03/04/19 12:39 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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He thought crazy primary trump was going to turn into serious buisiness leader president trump , but he got even crazier primary trump who defends North Korean concentration camp murderers instead . So now trump voters have to pretend nothing matters anymore . What choice do they have ?




He’s never been serious business leader trump. He’s never run a serious business.


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    #25852057 - 03/04/19 01:18 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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So you declare our case hopeless?

No way man.

What would you do to fix it if you could do anything?




Economic tariffs, stop immigration, infrastructure investment, reverse the tax cuts for the wealthy is just a start in my opinion. We have to remember that Trump promised all of those items on the campaign- yet nothing.

Obviously, Trump could never do those acts because it would cost The Elite trillions of dollars, so it wasn't ever going to happen.

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    #25852069 - 03/04/19 01:23 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Exactly. I dont see how anyone thought a billionaire cheese puff like himself wasn't part of the elite...He used to chill with Hilary and Bill...What did people expect?


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    #25852075 - 03/04/19 01:24 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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You cared what our neighbors and allies thought of us when BHO was president. What changed? :strokebeard:




I did?  I was more focused on the US President for the disadvantaged creating the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years to be concerned about how citizens in the EU thought about him.

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Exactly. I dont see how anyone thought a billionaire cheese puff like himself wasn't part of the elite...He used to chill with Hilary and Bill...What did people expect?




People are hoping for change through the voting booth, but that's not going to happen.

I can assure you the same disappointment and sorrow will come into play if a Bernie or AOC takes the Presidency, it really doesn't matter.

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    #25852115 - 03/04/19 01:39 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

AOC isn't eligible.  I'll take my chances with being disappointed.  I generally am anyway and at least I can say I tried.


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    #25852234 - 03/04/19 02:35 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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The world looks at the first election of trump as a mistake. A second election they will lose all respect for the US.



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    #25852292 - 03/04/19 02:57 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Even if all Bernie gets accomplished in 4 or 8 years is Medicare for all, I can hang my hat on that.

But he’s been very clear that it’s not about him, it’s about us (the working class). The movement that’s been built has institutional foundation now. People aren’t just going to get discouraged and go away if Bernie’s agenda is stonewalled.


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    #25852551 - 03/04/19 04:57 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

How'd you guys let this dude get in the White House? smh


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    #25852563 - 03/04/19 05:01 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

Unfortunately half of America’s population is below average intelligence.


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    #25852742 - 03/04/19 06:27 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

The Christian vote.


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    #25852783 - 03/04/19 06:42 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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How'd you guys let this dude get in the White House? smh




We are a very stupid people. Zero class consciousness and a public education system that glosses over basically everything poignant or useful.


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    #25852802 - 03/04/19 06:48 PM (5 years, 25 days ago)

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How'd you guys let this dude get in the White House? smh




Trump was the result of a politically correct backlash, the MSM refused to report the building resentment and of course it was a big surprise to everybody that lived in a bubble. Looking back at it, it was inevitable.

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I can assure you the same disappointment and sorrow will come into play if a Bernie or AOC takes the Presidency, it really doesn't matter.



No, you can't assure us that Bernie or AOC would fail.  You can only assure us the establishment will try their best to make them fail, as they are already starting to do with all the negative articles in establishment media.


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How'd you guys let this dude get in the White House? smh




Trump was the result of a politically correct backlash, the MSM refused to report the building resentment and of course it was a big surprise to everybody that lived in a bubble. Looking back at it, it was inevitable.




So what you’re saying is trump got elected because white people agent allowed to say the n word anymore?


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    #25853487 - 03/05/19 04:58 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

These comments are why the left will lose.

And the Democratic leaders use similarly weighted rhetoric. They pushed themselves so far left that they are no longer in touch with many average people.

Now we hear things like, reparations, white people are bad, intersectionality, and the future is female.

Those policies won't hold, imo. They are just panders to the extreme.

Even Bernie fell for it. Now he's focusing on his Jewish past, his victim status, and intersectionality in general. It's like he forgot about socialism this election and got caught up in intersectionality .


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    #25853511 - 03/05/19 05:15 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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So you declare our case hopeless?

No way man.

What would you do to fix it if you could do anything?




Economic tariffs, stop immigration, infrastructure investment, reverse the tax cuts for the wealthy is just a start in my opinion. We have to remember that Trump promised all of those items on the campaign- yet nothing.

Obviously, Trump could never do those acts because it would cost The Elite trillions of dollars, so it wasn't ever going to happen.




What tarrfs do you want?


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    #25853518 - 03/05/19 05:21 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

Well, what exactly did qman mean by “politically correct backlash.”


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    #25853520 - 03/05/19 05:22 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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These comments are why the left will lose.






The right have definitely proven themselves winners by electing Trump. Yay, welp.


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    #25853537 - 03/05/19 05:34 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

What exactly has trump managed to achieve? Not talking about policy. I’m talking about results.

Our trade situation is worse than it ever has been. Job growth is no better than what Obama had. GDP growth is no better than Obama. The tax cut bill has been a massive disappointment, and is blowing up the deficit. The stock market had its first losing year since 2008. American life expectancy is decreasing. The country has never been this divided in my lifetime. No wall. No Korean denuclearization. We’ve cozied up to the worst leaders in the worst countries. the rest of the world doesn’t trust us. We are a laughing stock.


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    #25853686 - 03/05/19 07:29 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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Well, what exactly did qman mean by “politically correct backlash.”




As far as I can tell that’s code for people who want to say racist things but act as though they aren’t racist.

At most it’s a ridiculous over simplification of the truth. My Aunt and her family aren’t racists and don’t care about political correctness either way, but they voted Trump and did so because their insurance premiums were too high. Obviously Trump has done exactly nothing to fix that, in fact he’s probably made it worse, but that’s their reasoning. When you point out that Trump’s a retard and has no clue what he’s talking about they still defend him though. It’s hard for people to admit they were wrong I guess.


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    #25853721 - 03/05/19 07:51 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

They don’t think they were wrong though. They think everyone else is. Even in the face of this farcical administration.


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    #25853753 - 03/05/19 08:11 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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How'd you guys let this dude get in the White House? smh




Trump was the result of a politically correct backlash, the MSM refused to report the building resentment and of course it was a big surprise to everybody that lived in a bubble. Looking back at it, it was inevitable.




So what you’re saying is trump got elected because white people agent allowed to say the n word anymore?




Nice strawman, the PC culture has infested into too many parts of US society and people are sick of it.  If they speak out about it, they're automatically labeled a racist, they are keeping their mouths shut and voting for people like Trump now. The same thing is occurring in the EU as well now.

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    #25853761 - 03/05/19 08:14 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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So you declare our case hopeless?

No way man.

What would you do to fix it if you could do anything?




Economic tariffs, stop immigration, infrastructure investment, reverse the tax cuts for the wealthy is just a start in my opinion. We have to remember that Trump promised all of those items on the campaign- yet nothing.

Obviously, Trump could never do those acts because it would cost The Elite trillions of dollars, so it wasn't ever going to happen.




What tarrfs do you want?




Whatever level is takes to have a balance of trade in the US. If that means a -50% tariff on products, so be it.

The tariffs Trump established were obviously nothing more than a joke, anyone could tell it would make no difference at all.

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Well, what exactly did qman mean by “politically correct backlash.”




As far as I can tell that’s code for people who want to say racist things but act as though they aren’t racist.




No, it's more about being forced feed PC nonsense at school and in the labor market. Being told to stop being "racist/sexist" in those places just for existing is highly insulting, that's how good "cultural diversity training" works.

Also, having Obama lecture the white population on race relations every 5 minutes didn't help either, all it did was build up resentment.

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    #25853769 - 03/05/19 08:24 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

Define force feeding.
Define PC nonsense.

Nobody is chastising anyone for existing (unless you’re an illegal immigrant).


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    #25853785 - 03/05/19 08:33 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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Define force feeding.
Define PC nonsense.

Nobody is chastising anyone for existing (unless you’re an illegal immigrant).


Your victim complex is laughable.




Come on, every public school, university and large corporation is heavily focused on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities" because they are now mandated to do so by the government.

We both know the motives behind it and what demographic isn't included, but falls into the perpetrator role by default.

"your victim complex"

I'm offering you a very rational reason why Trump got elected. I'm trying to explain why so many moderates got Trump elected, this has nothing to do with me.

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    #25853833 - 03/05/19 08:58 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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Being told to stop being "racist/sexist" in those places just for existing is highly insulting




Please wake up black tomorrow, so you can be entirely free of highly insulting experiences that come at you just for existing.


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    #25853909 - 03/05/19 09:50 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

The experiences of one do not negate those of another.
My trivial problems are as important to me as the "more serious" problems of another are to them.
I actually agree with the sentiment of your post but I do want to point out that yes, constantly being bombarded with the message that you are essentially a bad person because of your skin color is...tiresome...whatever color that skin happens to be.  Turning it into a pissing contest of who was/is more put upon is counterproductive and only serves to further entrench people in beliefs of things like "white genocide", etc.

Edit: to be clear, i'm not saying that calling out racists is the genesis of racism.  I am saying that the perpetrators of racism are as vulnerable to it's effects as anyone else.  They don't like it applied to them and bludgeoning them with it only serves to make them huddle tighter in their enclaves.  This, in turn, makes it harder to rehabilitate subsequent generations.


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Being told to stop being "racist/sexist" in those places just for existing is highly insulting




Please wake up black tomorrow, so you can be entirely free of highly insulting experiences that come at you just for existing.




Apples and oranges, one is based on government mandates and the other is based on potential biases by the general public.

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why can't fruit be compared?


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    #25854162 - 03/05/19 11:48 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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why can't fruit be compared?




Well, when someone suggests all things being equal, I'm going to point out the existing differences before the discussion goes any further.

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no need to get hung up on little differences.  The similarities are there in sufficient quantity to infer things.


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Even Bernie fell for it. Now he's focusing on his Jewish past, his victim status, and intersectionality in general. It's like he forgot about socialism this election and got caught up in intersectionality .



I didn't know that.  Can you cite an example?


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    #25855395 - 03/06/19 12:35 AM (5 years, 24 days ago)

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Come on, every public school, university and large corporation is heavily focused on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities" because they are now mandated to do so by the government.



So to you, not being allowed to discriminate means a heavy focus on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities"???


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    #25855815 - 03/06/19 08:06 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.


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Come on, every public school, university and large corporation is heavily focused on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities" because they are now mandated to do so by the government.



So to you, not being allowed to discriminate means a heavy focus on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities"???




Is it possible to not discriminate based on race, sexuality, gender, religion, social-economic status and age without an institution falsely accusing you of already being some sort of bigot?

You do realize we already have laws on the books that prohibit discrimination based on the list above?

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The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.




You don't see the distinction between creating legislation and constantly lecturing people to stop being bigots without evidence?

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The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.




You don't see the distinction between creating legislation and constantly lecturing people to stop being bigots without evidence?




lol without evidence. You just can’t accept that racism is a legitimate problem, I wonder why that is.


Either way, obviously there’s a difference between the CRA and public condemnation, you just happen to have a problem with both.


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Define force feeding.
Define PC nonsense.

Nobody is chastising anyone for existing (unless you’re an illegal immigrant).


Your victim complex is laughable.




Come on, every public school, university and large corporation is heavily focused on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities" because they are now mandated to do so by the government.

We both know the motives behind it and what demographic isn't included, but falls into the perpetrator role by default.

"your victim complex"

I'm offering you a very rational reason why Trump got elected. I'm trying to explain why so many moderates got Trump elected, this has nothing to do with me.




You are correct.

I was a blind democrat until they came out of the closet in 2016 with their racist identity politics.

Look at Bernie now too. He is transforming his campaign to make it intersectional.

Bernie used to have a chance. Now he's just a bumbling idiot trying to fit in with intersectionality and identity politics.

I once even considered Bernie in 2016.

I'll never go back to the Dems.


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    #25855887 - 03/06/19 08:39 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016


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    #25855892 - 03/06/19 08:44 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Intersectionality

Now I’m cool using a cool word that I am assuming XUL learned yesterday like
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The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.




You don't see the distinction between creating legislation and constantly lecturing people to stop being bigots without evidence?




lol without evidence. You just can’t accept that racism is a legitimate problem, I wonder why that is.


Either way, obviously there’s a difference between the CRA and public condemnation, you just happen to have a problem with both.




If you think lecturing decent people to stop acting like "bigots" without any evidence is an effective method to combat legitimate forms of bigotry, prepare yourself for potentially another 6 years of Trump.

There's already laws on the books, what else do you want?  :facepalm:

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    #25855914 - 03/06/19 08:56 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

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That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016




No, I'm not wrong, but continue pissing people off by accusing them of serious offenses without any evidence.

How did that nonsense work for the NFL last year?

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    #25855922 - 03/06/19 09:03 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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I was a blind democrat until they came out of the closet in 2016 with their racist identity politics.






So you jumped on the Trump bandwagon to fight racism? Champion of the People :durrhurr:


To be an effective wolf in sheep's clothing, actually wear the sheep's clothing, not just casually drape it over your arm in making a point against your political opponents.


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    #25855955 - 03/06/19 09:31 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016




No, I'm not wrong, but continue pissing people off by accusing them of serious offenses without any evidence.

How did that nonsense work for the NFL last year?




What do you mean? Was the NFL accusing people of serious offenses without any evidence?


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Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016




No, I'm not wrong, but continue pissing people off by accusing them of serious offenses without any evidence.

How did that nonsense work for the NFL last year?




What do you mean? Was the NFL accusing people of serious offenses without any evidence?




It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:

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Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016




No, I'm not wrong, but continue pissing people off by accusing them of serious offenses without any evidence.

How did that nonsense work for the NFL last year?




Pretty well

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25403546/nfl-television-ratings-5-percent-2018-season%3fplatform=amp


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    #25856053 - 03/06/19 10:48 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

lol did you miss the part where the NFLPA won concessions from the league? Or where they gave Kaepernick $60,000,000 for not proving in court that the owners colluded against him?

What planet do you live on?


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    #25856056 - 03/06/19 10:50 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

“Yeah keep it up leftists! Your brilliant plan of bringing awareness to social justice issues is causing billionaires to lose money. Even worse, it’s helping unionized labor!”

My god the horror.


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On his planet, society punishes politically incorrect demonstrations of patriotism. On earth, nobody really gives a shit.


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    #25856061 - 03/06/19 10:54 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

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It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?


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    #25856107 - 03/06/19 11:32 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

XUL + qman - The Ecstatic + koods

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    #25856136 - 03/06/19 11:52 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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christopera said:
Quote:

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It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




lol no shit.


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koods said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016




No, I'm not wrong, but continue pissing people off by accusing them of serious offenses without any evidence.

How did that nonsense work for the NFL last year?




Pretty well

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25403546/nfl-television-ratings-5-percent-2018-season%3fplatform=amp




Maybe that's because the protesting is over.  :lol:

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    #25856246 - 03/06/19 01:17 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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lol did you miss the part where the NFLPA won concessions from the league? Or where they gave Kaepernick $60,000,000 for not proving in court that the owners colluded against him?

What planet do you live on?




Yes, the NFL made a business decision and bought off the players. The end result is the protests are out of the NFL games, mission accomplished!!

And no, the NFL did not admit to colluding to keep him out. Also, where is the evidence of $60,000,000 settlement?  https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/settlement-amounts-nfl-compensating-colin-kaepernick-not-playing-football

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    #25856256 - 03/06/19 01:20 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Quote:

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“Yeah keep it up leftists! Your brilliant plan of bringing awareness to social justice issues is causing billionaires to lose money. Even worse, it’s helping unionized labor!”

My god the horror.




Or it pissed off the vast majority of people that watch, attend games and buy products from advertisers associated with the NFL.

The NFL players were pissing on their own wallets and were too stupid to recognize it until the very end. Money talks and bullshit walks.

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Quote:

qman said:


It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




Racists and non-racists will vote for Trump again, just like they did for Bush, Clinton and Obama.

Objecting to PC policies hardly makes someone a racist, but I hope you already that know fact.

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:rimshot:
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Quote:

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Quote:

qman said:


It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




Racists and non-racists will vote for Trump again, just like they did for Bush, Clinton and Obama.

Objecting to PC policies hardly makes someone a racist, but I hope you already that know fact.




But youre ignoring the fact that many, likely most, of the most prominent and destructive racists and racist organizations love Trump. While those same also groups and people love to claim that political correctness is destroying the country. Coincidence? Not even close.


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    #25856362 - 03/06/19 02:35 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

You're playing the same stupid game XUL plays when he lumps everyone who opposes Trump in with the most ridiculous SJWs.


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    #25856418 - 03/06/19 03:02 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

XUL is not about Trump, he's about the dollar. When NYSE goes bullish, XUL goes droolish.

I'm playing mind games with you XUL. :wink:

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qman said:
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christopera said:
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qman said:


It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




Racists and non-racists will vote for Trump again, just like they did for Bush, Clinton and Obama.

Objecting to PC policies hardly makes someone a racist, but I hope you already that know fact.




But youre ignoring the fact that many, likely most, of the most prominent and destructive racists and racist organizations love Trump. While those same also groups and people love to claim that political correctness is destroying the country. Coincidence? Not even close.




Are there racists that oppose PC?  Yes. Are there non-racists that oppose PC?  Yes.

Are there racists that support Trump?  Yes. Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.

You're failing to establish any direct correlation and you're doing nothing other than making broad generalizations.

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    #25856424 - 03/06/19 03:04 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.



That's a damnable lie.  There are people who self identify as non-racists who support Trump...

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You're playing the same stupid game XUL plays when he lumps everyone who opposes Trump in with the most ridiculous SJWs.




The only validity to your point is that staunch SJW's are basically the same crazies as staunch racists and staunch anti-PCs.

But I've lumped nobody, the data is pretty clear. We can admit that racism is in inherent in the system, we can admit that racism is bad, we can attempt to address these issues. But when it's painted as PC culture then all of a sudden it's bad. Doesn't make much sense.

On the other hand, when you argue that cultures should never assimilate or mix and that races should always be separate while also arguing that your tired of political correctness being rudely shoved down your throat you aren't fighting against PC culture. You are a racist who uses anti-PC as a veiled attempt to hide racism.


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Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.



That's a damnable lie.  There are people who self identify as non-racists who support Trump...




Then there's at least 60 million racists in US today?  If you want to dilute the term to be completely meaningless, then go right ahead. :shrug:

I think many Trump voters just opposed Hillary, that's not really a vote of support in my opinion.

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    #25856450 - 03/06/19 03:26 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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Are there racists that oppose PC?  Yes. Are there non-racists that oppose PC?  Yes.

Are there racists that support Trump?  Yes. Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.

You're failing to establish any direct correlation and you're doing nothing other than making broad generalizations.




I never said anything that would counter those points.

The majority of racists are also anti-PC. Why? There are scholarly articles dating back to the 1980's on the matter, this is no surprise. And it's universal, it happens in Europe, Asia, Africa, everywhere. Those who are anti-PC almost without fail are racists.


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    #25856451 - 03/06/19 03:27 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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Quote:

The Ecstatic said:
“Yeah keep it up leftists! Your brilliant plan of bringing awareness to social justice issues is causing billionaires to lose money. Even worse, it’s helping unionized labor!”

My god the horror.




Or it pissed off the vast majority of people that watch, attend games and buy products from advertisers associated with the NFL.

The NFL players were pissing on their own wallets and were too stupid to recognize it until the very end. Money talks and bullshit walks.




Again: The players won this fight.

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    #25856455 - 03/06/19 03:30 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Then there's at least 60 million racists in US today?  If you want to dilute the term to be completely meaningless, then go right ahead. :shrug:

What defines a racist IYO?

I think many Trump voters just opposed Hillary, that's not really a vote of support in my opinion.

Voting for the lesser of two evils. In Americans opinion Trump was the pound and Hillary was the dollar.

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    #25856458 - 03/06/19 03:34 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

There's no doubt that Trump won the election on the anti Dem train, and anti Hillary helped. Of course we shouldn't forget that Trump lost the popular vote, so there's that.

But Trump drew out the racists like we haven't see in ages. A vocal minority they surely are, but it doesn't mean they weren't empowered enough to do some murdering.


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    #25856461 - 03/06/19 03:36 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Define a racist.

I think there are far more of them than weak klansmen.

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    #25856517 - 03/06/19 04:09 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Certainly, and that's my point. Just because you are anti-pc and don't consider yourself a racist doesn't mean you aren't saying racist shit. And when it comes to racism, if you say racist shit and mean it, even if you don't realize that you are saying racist shit, you are a racist.

I'm not necessarily pro PC, but I think it's played a necessary part in redefining how we apply race to language. I think we will find a middle ground at some point, but Trump being a retard drew out the retards at least in part due to his own lack of PC sensibilities.


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    #25856555 - 03/06/19 04:28 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

I agree with you but I don't think we will find a middle ground unless something big happens. Racism is way too confined in western culture. The whole society must unlearn and start from scratch with a complete new system of living. Bigshot moneymakers will not let this happen.

Check out blackpeoplematrix.

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    #25856900 - 03/06/19 06:35 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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Quote:

qman said:

Are there racists that oppose PC?  Yes. Are there non-racists that oppose PC?  Yes.

Are there racists that support Trump?  Yes. Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.

You're failing to establish any direct correlation and you're doing nothing other than making broad generalizations.




I never said anything that would counter those points.

The majority of racists are also anti-PC. Why? There are scholarly articles dating back to the 1980's on the matter, this is no surprise. And it's universal, it happens in Europe, Asia, Africa, everywhere. Those who are anti-PC almost without fail are racists.




You do realize there's plenty of non-whites that are anti-PC?  Are they "without fail are racists"?  Or do they get an exemption? 

Many people that are anti-PC hold traditional values, they could be white, Asian, Hispanic or black. :shrug:

BTW, let's see these "scholarly articles dating back to the 1980's on the matter" that you hold in such high regard.

"this is no surprise"

The surprise should be that you're making a bunch of generalization without any evidence, but it's not.

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qman said:
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The Ecstatic said:
“Yeah keep it up leftists! Your brilliant plan of bringing awareness to social justice issues is causing billionaires to lose money. Even worse, it’s helping unionized labor!”

My god the horror.




Or it pissed off the vast majority of people that watch, attend games and buy products from advertisers associated with the NFL.

The NFL players were pissing on their own wallets and were too stupid to recognize it until the very end. Money talks and bullshit walks.




Again: The players won this fight.





That's a victory, really?  It's business as usual for the NFL and the movement is gone.

I guess we better alert all the black males that the justice system is going to workout just fine for them going forward.

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There's no doubt that Trump won the election on the anti Dem train, and anti Hillary helped. Of course we shouldn't forget that Trump lost the popular vote, so there's that.

But Trump drew out the racists like we haven't see in ages. A vocal minority they surely are, but it doesn't mean they weren't empowered enough to do some murdering.




Trump won in the key states by having former Obama voters turn to him, I guess they were "racists" according to your line of reasoning.

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    #25856937 - 03/06/19 06:48 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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I agree with you but I don't think we will find a middle ground unless something big happens. Racism is way too confined in western culture. The whole society must unlearn and start from scratch with a complete new system of living. Bigshot moneymakers will not let this happen.

Check out blackpeoplematrix.

Now I'm looking for qman's definition of racism.




I don't use the invented definition the left uses- which is disagree with me and you're a "racist".

I use the official definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"

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    #25857042 - 03/06/19 07:33 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

and do you believe that adding the phrase "under a particular set of circumstances" to the end makes it suddenly not racism?


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    #25857155 - 03/06/19 08:36 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

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and do you believe that adding the phrase "under a particular set of circumstances" to the end makes it suddenly not racism?




Isn't the judgment of any "difference" only contingent upon the environment? 

Polar bears do better in their environment than panda bears, does that make them superior?  It completely depends upon the environment.

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    #25857176 - 03/06/19 08:46 PM (5 years, 23 days ago)

Maybe for bears, but humans overcome the environment in myriad ways in myriad places.


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The Ecstatic said:
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The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.




You don't see the distinction between creating legislation and constantly lecturing people to stop being bigots without evidence?




lol without evidence. You just can’t accept that racism is a legitimate problem, I wonder why that is.


Either way, obviously there’s a difference between the CRA and public condemnation, you just happen to have a problem with both.




If you think lecturing decent people to stop acting like "bigots" without any evidence is an effective method to combat legitimate forms of bigotry, prepare yourself for potentially another 6 years of Trump.

There's already laws on the books, what else do you want?  :facepalm:




I guess we all have our own definitions of decency.


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    #25857525 - 03/07/19 01:58 AM (5 years, 23 days ago)

"Political Correctness" isn't even a thing.

If someone takes effort not to phrase things in a racist, sexist or homophobic manner, for whatever reason that person may have, he's being accused of "political correctness" like it is a bad thing to not want to offend minorities.

What kind of a fucking person takes offense at someone not wanting to offend minorities?

What kind of a fucking person takes offense at someone doing the decent thing?

Conservatives talk about not saying racist stuff like its an alien concept that is done for some inexplicable reason.

Could someone who doesnt say racist stuff, instead of "wanting to be politically correct", simply be decent or nonracist? Does it have to be a contrived motivation? If theres no racism in your heart there will be no racism on your lips.


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    #25857668 - 03/07/19 06:13 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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qman said:
Quote:

Pinkerton said:
I agree with you but I don't think we will find a middle ground unless something big happens. Racism is way too confined in western culture. The whole society must unlearn and start from scratch with a complete new system of living. Bigshot moneymakers will not let this happen.

Check out blackpeoplematrix.

Now I'm looking for qman's definition of racism.




I don't use the invented definition the left uses- which is disagree with me and you're a "racist".

I use the official definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"



Most white people are racists like that. At least IME. It comes with white world dominance. Survival of the fittest.

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    #25857874 - 03/07/19 08:24 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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"Political Correctness" isn't even a thing.

If someone takes effort not to phrase things in a racist, sexist or homophobic manner, for whatever reason that person may have, he's being accused of "political correctness" like it is a bad thing to not want to offend minorities.

What kind of a fucking person takes offense at someone not wanting to offend minorities?

What kind of a fucking person takes offense at someone doing the decent thing?

Conservatives talk about not saying racist stuff like its an alien concept that is done for some inexplicable reason.

Could someone who doesnt say racist stuff, instead of "wanting to be politically correct", simply be decent or nonracist? Does it have to be a contrived motivation? If theres no racism in your heart there will be no racism on your lips.




The PC movement goes beyond verbal restraint, it also includes behavior.

How do you think a school teacher or nurse feels when they attend a mandated "diversity training" class and they're told to stop treating students differently because of their race or ethnicity?  It's fucking highly insulting.  How do you think a medical professional of 25 years feels when they insinuate they would offer a young student different levels of treatment based on their race?  It makes them very upset because it's not true.

I don't think you understand the extent of the PC movement in the US today, it's just not about verbal rules, it's about suggesting you're automatically a white bigot and we're going to stop you from acting it out despite NOT having any EVIDENCE to suggest you're a bigot.

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The Ecstatic said:
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qman said:
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The Ecstatic said:
The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.




You don't see the distinction between creating legislation and constantly lecturing people to stop being bigots without evidence?




lol without evidence. You just can’t accept that racism is a legitimate problem, I wonder why that is.


Either way, obviously there’s a difference between the CRA and public condemnation, you just happen to have a problem with both.




If you think lecturing decent people to stop acting like "bigots" without any evidence is an effective method to combat legitimate forms of bigotry, prepare yourself for potentially another 6 years of Trump.

There's already laws on the books, what else do you want?  :facepalm:




I guess we all have our own definitions of decency.




Exactly, I don't lecture people on their behavior for no legitimate reason other than to insult them. 'Stop beating your GF/wife as a male'.

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Pinkerton said:
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qman said:
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Pinkerton said:
I agree with you but I don't think we will find a middle ground unless something big happens. Racism is way too confined in western culture. The whole society must unlearn and start from scratch with a complete new system of living. Bigshot moneymakers will not let this happen.

Check out blackpeoplematrix.

Now I'm looking for qman's definition of racism.




I don't use the invented definition the left uses- which is disagree with me and you're a "racist".

I use the official definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"



Most white people are racists like that. At least IME. It comes with white world dominance. Survival of the fittest.




"Most white people are racist like that"

That's the prejudice and racism you're protesting against, time to look in the mirror and have some deep reflection.

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    #25857894 - 03/07/19 08:31 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

Get back to the drawing board.

When you dominate you feel superior.

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Pinkerton said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Pinkerton said:
I agree with you but I don't think we will find a middle ground unless something big happens. Racism is way too confined in western culture. The whole society must unlearn and start from scratch with a complete new system of living. Bigshot moneymakers will not let this happen.

Check out blackpeoplematrix.

Now I'm looking for qman's definition of racism.




I don't use the invented definition the left uses- which is disagree with me and you're a "racist".

I use the official definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"



Most white people are racists like that. At least IME. It comes with white world dominance. Survival of the fittest.




"Most white people are racist like that"

That's the prejudice and racism you're protesting against, time to look in the mirror and have some deep reflection.

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    #25858069 - 03/07/19 10:01 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

You're not sensitive enough! :crankey:

I demand that you go to a disadvantaged neighborhood and help rub lotion into the hands of gender fluid, person of color.

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    #25858108 - 03/07/19 10:16 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

Well said qmain.

This really highlights how the Democratic party never changed.


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There's a democratic party in your ass!


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    #25858121 - 03/07/19 10:22 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

My bowels are not democratic.

When my ass is on fire, it demands justice immediately.

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Well said qmain.

This really highlights how the Democratic party never changed.




Aren't you usually spatting on about how you woke up and left the democrats when they became too PC and too hypocritical? Seems that would represent a change, eh? Which is it?


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    #25858140 - 03/07/19 10:32 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

He got tired of their bullshit and went whole hog for another flavor of bullshit.


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I have been saying that Dem philosophy is racists for a while. They can't have slaves anymore, so they use intellectual racism to smear those who disagree.


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    #25858152 - 03/07/19 10:37 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

That's the most racist thing I've heard in one minute!

This should be a safe space! :crankey:


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    #25858191 - 03/07/19 10:56 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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I have been saying that Dem philosophy is racists for a while. They can't have slaves anymore, so they use intellectual racism to smear those who disagree.




They're racist against intellectuals?


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qman said:
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Pinkerton said:
I agree with you but I don't think we will find a middle ground unless something big happens. Racism is way too confined in western culture. The whole society must unlearn and start from scratch with a complete new system of living. Bigshot moneymakers will not let this happen.

Check out blackpeoplematrix.

Now I'm looking for qman's definition of racism.




I don't use the invented definition the left uses- which is disagree with me and you're a "racist".

I use the official definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"



Most white people are racists like that. At least IME. It comes with white world dominance. Survival of the fittest.




"Most white people are racist like that"

That's the prejudice and racism you're protesting against, time to look in the mirror and have some deep reflection.



Here's the thing: I'm racist inside myself against blacks and it was only a couple of years ago when I called a black African brother "monkey", and it was almost said for no reason. I see those same warrior racist traits in most white people, everyday racism.

I'm not attracted to black females unless they're super hot because I've been fed bullshit how white European-American women are the most beautiful my whole life. Then comes yellow Asians and eventually brown Asians and at the very bottom black African human beings. When I think of black African sisters it's like they're monkeys, I never think of white women like that. It's fucking ugly man. All of this might sound like trolling but I'm completely sincere. :shrug:

I despise my own white "race". It's collectively the most vile and ugly "race" on planet Earth, no doubt. I might be racist against whites but it's because they're dominating planet Earth, it's like racism against the superior race. So I'm not picking on the weakest but the strongest. I'm all about favoring the underdog.

There's some of the same prejudice and racism I'm protesting against. You're somewhat right. But really qman, who do you back collectively back, the strongest or the weakest?

Anyway I used to see white people above black human beings. Now a days I tend to be more skeptical to white people and instead follow black human beings. Justice and uhuru. :heart:

Keep in mind: the weakest link must become the strongest link in a well-function society. If we're one tribe. :wink:

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    #25858225 - 03/07/19 11:16 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

The Japanese perfected rape.
The Mongols with Genghis Khan culled 11% of the world's population. This list can go on.... plenty of humanity to blame for ill transgressions regardless of skin color.

BTW, I did a humanitarian mission while in military.....some of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen were some women in Africa.

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    #25858232 - 03/07/19 11:20 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

Agree'd. :thumbup:

I base my position on recent history and modern society.

Edited by Pinkerton (03/07/19 11:24 AM)

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    #25858241 - 03/07/19 11:23 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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BTW, I did a humanitarian mission while in military.....some of the most beautiful woman I have ever seen were some women in Africa.



Nice. :thumbup: The more I wake up, the more I see beauty in black sisters.

But as of today my looksmatch must be white. I feel some sort of weakness if I date a black looksmatch, it feels dirty. Fuck, I'm ugly. :sad:

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    #25858263 - 03/07/19 11:38 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

What about brothers? Trans? Gender non binary?


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    #25858306 - 03/07/19 11:53 AM (5 years, 22 days ago)

How I feel about them?

On the surface I look down on these human beings. We're basically taught they're freaks.

If I dig deeper within they're close to my heart.

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Pinkerton said:
Quote:

qman said:
Quote:

Pinkerton said:
I agree with you but I don't think we will find a middle ground unless something big happens. Racism is way too confined in western culture. The whole society must unlearn and start from scratch with a complete new system of living. Bigshot moneymakers will not let this happen.

Check out blackpeoplematrix.

Now I'm looking for qman's definition of racism.




I don't use the invented definition the left uses- which is disagree with me and you're a "racist".

I use the official definition. https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/racism

"a belief that race is the primary determinant of human traits and capacities and that racial differences produce an inherent superiority of a particular race"



Most white people are racists like that. At least IME. It comes with white world dominance. Survival of the fittest.




"Most white people are racist like that"

That's the prejudice and racism you're protesting against, time to look in the mirror and have some deep reflection.



Here's the thing: I'm racist inside myself against blacks and it was only a couple of years ago when I called a black African brother "monkey", and it was almost said for no reason. I see those same warrior racist traits in most white people, everyday racism.

I'm not attracted to black females unless they're super hot because I've been fed bullshit how white European-American women are the most beautiful my whole life. Then comes yellow Asians and eventually brown Asians and at the very bottom black African human beings. When I think of black African sisters it's like they're monkeys, I never think of white women like that. It's fucking ugly man. All of this might sound like trolling but I'm completely sincere. :shrug:

I despise my own white "race". It's collectively the most vile and ugly "race" on planet Earth, no doubt. I might be racist against whites but it's because they're dominating planet Earth, it's like racism against the superior race. So I'm not picking on the weakest but the strongest. I'm all about favoring the underdog.

There's some of the same prejudice and racism I'm protesting against. You're somewhat right. But really qman, who do you back collectively back, the strongest or the weakest?

Anyway I used to see white people above black human beings. Now a days I tend to be more skeptical to white people and instead follow black human beings. Justice and uhuru. :heart:

Keep in mind: the weakest link must become the strongest link in a well-function society. If we're one tribe. :wink:




:trolldance:
This is a classic, well done sir.

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    #25858376 - 03/07/19 12:39 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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"Political Correctness" isn't even a thing.



Precisely. :thumbup:

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    #25858387 - 03/07/19 12:46 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

Tell me why you think I'm trolling, qman. What in that text is not genuine? :strokebeard:

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:lolwut:


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    #25859475 - 03/07/19 09:03 PM (5 years, 22 days ago)

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: CO_MUS] * 1
    #25860112 - 03/08/19 05:04 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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Black women are a great fuck. But to build a family with? Fuck no, if I ever have children, I'd rather them not become delinquents.



Oh boy you are on mean streak.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25860118 - 03/08/19 05:08 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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XUL said:
Quote:

CO_MUS said:
Black women are a great fuck.




Damn good.



I bet you think sex is the greatest thing on Earth.

Sex in actuality is confusion. It distracts people from seeing the god-awful reality we live in.

XUL is more interested in looking at the ass of Hillbilly white women than Trump looting America.

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    #25860137 - 03/08/19 05:32 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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Black women are a great fuck. But to build a family with? Fuck no, if I ever have children, I'd rather them not become delinquents.





i don't consider that a political statement.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Asante] * 1
    #25860145 - 03/08/19 05:42 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

Just who is making black human beings criminals.

Try putting two and two together CO_MUS.

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    #25860161 - 03/08/19 06:03 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

Back to the topic. A recent poll in Florida showed very low favorability to Trump compared to earlier, and even relatively bad numbers among Republicans. Florida is the biggest swing state so it's important. There are only approximately 8-10 states that aren't already decided ahead of time, so let's keep an eye on Trump's numbers in the swing states.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #25860168 - 03/08/19 06:07 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

That's just so enlightening brother.

If Trump doesn't get elected someone else will keep the status quo alive.

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    #25860355 - 03/08/19 08:43 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)



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    #25860358 - 03/08/19 08:46 AM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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At least the trade deficit has been solved!

In Blow to Trump, America’s Trade Deficit in Goods Hits Record $891 Billion

And the budget deficit

Following Trump tax cut, federal budget deficit up 77 percent so far this budget year

And the stock market

2018 was the worst for stocks in 10 years

And immigration

February had highest total of undocumented immigrants crossing U.S. border in 12 years

Who would have thunk that a moron who bankrupted nearly all his businesses wouldn’t know the first thing about running a country




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    #25861513 - 03/08/19 05:00 PM (5 years, 21 days ago)

This thread is bumpin! Trump will be the centre of many conversations for years to come.. its pretty entertaining for an outside like my self lol I don't even pay attention to my own countries politics but watching trump fuck up is like watching someone you hate get into a car crash. I miss Obama and I'm not even American. I wish there was more black people in my area, I'd love to fuck a black girl, they don't seem as needy as white girls. but beggars can't be choosers I guess :toast:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: staytrippy420]
    #25861524 - 03/08/19 05:10 PM (5 years, 21 days ago)

But it's all for nothing.

WTF will he achieve? NOTHING.

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    #25861525 - 03/08/19 05:10 PM (5 years, 21 days ago)

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I'm not even American. I wish there was more black people in my area



One love brother. :heart:

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    #25862565 - 03/09/19 06:59 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

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Pinkerton said:
Quote:

XUL said:
Quote:

CO_MUS said:
Black women are a great fuck.




Damn good.



I bet you think sex is the greatest thing on Earth.

Sex in actuality is confusion. It distracts people from seeing the god-awful reality we live in.

XUL is more interested in looking at the ass of Hillbilly white women than Trump looting America.




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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25862602 - 03/09/19 07:25 AM (5 years, 20 days ago)

Repression.

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    #25865152 - 03/10/19 10:16 AM (5 years, 19 days ago)

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... watching trump fuck up is like watching someone you hate get into a car crash.




That's a poignant example of how we can learn something about ourselves. It's quite interesting that many people condemn hatred yet feel passionately justified and quite comfortable hating certain politicians. They're blind to their hypocrisy, as they wallow in the filthy mud of self-righteous indignation.

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    #25865506 - 03/10/19 12:51 PM (5 years, 19 days ago)

trump is a loathsome, contemptible and terrible human being. I’m supposed to like him?

The trumps aren’t the best people. they’re rapists. Thieves. Grifters. Liars. I guess some of them are good people.


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    #25867455 - 03/11/19 11:29 AM (5 years, 18 days ago)

You knew it was coming when trump started going off about sex trafficking. The man projects like no other.

Founder of Florida day spa tied to Robert Kraft's prostitution case attended Trump's Super Bowl party, report says

Quote:

Trump, a longtime friend of Kraft and Patriots admirer, is seen leaning back in his chair and smiling with Yang and another woman who are seated at a table behind the president in the blurry photo. They watched New England beat the Los Angeles Rams for the franchise's sixth championship.

Yang, an entrepreneur from China who goes by Cindy, opened a chain of South Florida day spas more than a decade ago that included Orchids of Asia Day Spa in Jupiter, Florida, which is now connected to a sex trafficking ring tied to Kraft's case.




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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25867481 - 03/11/19 11:43 AM (5 years, 18 days ago)

I've been saying for a long time that spending cuts were coming, it's just a matter of time.

https://www.foxnews.com/politics/wh-economic-adviser-larry-kudlow-promises-big-cuts-in-domestic-spending-for-2020-budget

This is just going to be the tip of the iceberg, just wait until we have a real economic slowdown. We're going to go down to 0% interest rates on a permanent basis, it's time to truly kill the economy.

Here's the funny thing, the liberal D's are going to sign on to the cuts with little to no resistance.

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    #25867486 - 03/11/19 11:47 AM (5 years, 18 days ago)

Ha. That budget is going straight into the trash can. The house is controlled by Democrats. They make the budget now.


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    #25867580 - 03/11/19 12:50 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

Easy there, Donald President has got this on lock down.


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    #25867643 - 03/11/19 01:35 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

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Donald President.




Dude, I saw his tweet today about the “Tim Apple” thing.  Wtf?  That was hilarious when it happened, and while it did make him seem kinda daft, it was a silly mistake that any other person would’ve just laughed off.  But trump, of course, has to make it about “FAKE NEWS” and act like it didn’t happen the way it did.  And morons are out there, accepting his version of the event, like they can’t hear for themselves how it happened.  But I think I understand Trump’s perspective- if you can change objective reality in the minds of your cud-chewing followers, why wouldn’t you?

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    #25867703 - 03/11/19 02:18 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

He did the same thing previously with the CEO of Lockheed. It was cringeworthy.

All he had to do was to own up to it, show a little humility. But you’re right, his people eat this shit up.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25867938 - 03/11/19 04:26 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

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At this point, he still has my vote.

America first. Anything else and you lose my vote.





Does Trump fill these criterias:

Lack of guilt/remorse
Lack of empathy
Lack of deep emotional attachments
Narcissism
Superficial charm
Dishonesty
Manipulativeness
Reckless risk-taking

"The psychopath is callous, yet charming. He or she will con and manipulate others with charisma and intimidation and can effectively mimic feelings to present as "normal" to society. The psychopath is organized in their criminal thinking and behavior, and can maintain good emotional and physical control, displaying little to no emotional or autonomic arousal, even under situations that most would find threatening or horrifying. The psychopath is keenly aware that what he or she is doing is wrong, but does not care."

- Kelly McAleer, Psy.D

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    #25867957 - 03/11/19 04:41 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

Xul knows trump is a psychopath. Those kind of people like trumps pathology. The right is morally bankrupt. Think of all these Christians who support a man who cheats, steals and fornicates in the most egregious way. Only someone who has no principles could support such a person just because he’s on your side (which he isn’t - he’s only for himself)


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    #25868003 - 03/11/19 05:03 PM (5 years, 18 days ago)

Spellbinder. :razz:

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    #25870955 - 03/13/19 01:12 AM (5 years, 17 days ago)

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"Political Correctness" isn't even a thing.

If someone takes effort not to phrase things in a racist, sexist or homophobic manner, for whatever reason that person may have, he's being accused of "political correctness" like it is a bad thing to not want to offend minorities.

What kind of a fucking person takes offense at someone not wanting to offend minorities?

What kind of a fucking person takes offense at someone doing the decent thing?

Conservatives talk about not saying racist stuff like its an alien concept that is done for some inexplicable reason.

Could someone who doesnt say racist stuff, instead of "wanting to be politically correct", simply be decent or nonracist? Does it have to be a contrived motivation? If theres no racism in your heart there will be no racism on your lips.



For example though if you have the opinion that trans people are scientifically their birth sex even if they should have every right to identify the way the wish then it’s a matter of political correctness.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 3
    #25871174 - 03/13/19 06:20 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

Paul Ryan says several Democrats can beat Trump and that the President will not win if the campaign is being defined as about him as opposed to his policies. First, Paul Ryan is an asshole, but still. When has Trump ever done anything that is not about him? Is it even possible? Second, his policies don't give him much to run on. The tax cuts are less popular after people have had time to evaluate them. He decimated his own stock market gains. Their is a fairly strong anti-immigration sentiment with the public, but Trump has lost a lot of ground outside his base, by trying to force the wall with government shutdowns. The whole rah rah Israel and Democrats are anti-Jewish doesn't play with the public, except fundamentalists, who like Trump, have no liking for Jews except that they control Jesus' hometown. 


I think people now know him too well to reelect him.


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    #25871293 - 03/13/19 08:20 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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Paul Ryan says several Democrats can beat Trump and that the President will not win if the campaign is being defined as about him as opposed to his policies. First, Paul Ryan is an asshole, but still. When has Trump ever done anything that is not about him? Is it even possible? Second, his policies don't give him much to run on. The tax cuts are less popular after people have had time to evaluate them. He decimated his own stock market gains. Their is a fairly strong anti-immigration sentiment with the public, but Trump has lost a lot of ground outside his base, by trying to force the wall with government shutdowns. The whole rah rah Israel and Democrats are anti-Jewish doesn't play with the public, except fundamentalists, who like Trump, have no liking for Jews except that they control Jesus' hometown. 


I think people now know him too well to reelect him.




There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25871395 - 03/13/19 09:49 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

Who would ever vote for a compulsive liar? Y’all are just funny to me.

Remember: compulsive lies, paying of mistresses on the campaign trail, barely any briefings, not holding a country accountable for the murder and dismemberment of an American resident, and all of the other nonsense that is the Trump administration

These will all be vile again as soon as a Democrat is at the helm.

And democrats are just simply too weak and ineffective to do anything of any value.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
    #25871404 - 03/13/19 09:54 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes


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    #25871417 - 03/13/19 10:01 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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Quote:

qman said:
There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes




What do you think Bernie is going to do if he gets elected?  Even better question: what will congress allow him to do?

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    #25871432 - 03/13/19 10:08 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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Who would ever vote for a compulsive liar? Y’all are just funny to me.

Remember: compulsive lies, paying of mistresses on the campaign trail, barely any briefings, not holding a country accountable for the murder and dismemberment of an American resident, and all of the other nonsense that is the Trump administration

These will all be vile again as soon as a Democrat is at the helm.

And democrats are just simply too weak and ineffective to do anything of any value.

IMO




Essentially, every member of Congress is a compulsive liar because they claim they represent the people, while in fact they represent their corporate sponsors. Do you know of any Congress members that even mention the word "lobbyists"?

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Quote:

qman said:
There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes




"Sanders emphasized unity, patriotism and economic socialism"

Throw in some economic and social nationalism, and he wins hands down, but will he embrace that winning strategy?

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    #25871441 - 03/13/19 10:13 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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Who would ever vote for a compulsive liar? Y’all are just funny to me.

Remember: compulsive lies, paying of mistresses on the campaign trail, barely any briefings, not holding a country accountable for the murder and dismemberment of an American resident, and all of the other nonsense that is the Trump administration

These will all be vile again as soon as a Democrat is at the helm.

And democrats are just simply too weak and ineffective to do anything of any value.

IMO




Essentially, every member of Congress is a compulsive liar because they claim they represent the people, while in fact they represent their corporate sponsors. Do you know of any Congress members that even mention the word "lobbyists"?




I couldn’t have said that any better. You know the reality of it all. Why play along?


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    #25871477 - 03/13/19 10:31 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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Quote:

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qman said:
There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes




What do you think Bernie is going to do if he gets elected?  Even better question: what will congress allow him to do?

Nothing will change the status quo-nothing.



Exactly. This is what most of the politics forum guys don't understand.

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Who would ever vote for a compulsive liar? Y’all are just funny to me.

Remember: compulsive lies, paying of mistresses on the campaign trail, barely any briefings, not holding a country accountable for the murder and dismemberment of an American resident, and all of the other nonsense that is the Trump administration

These will all be vile again as soon as a Democrat is at the helm.

And democrats are just simply too weak and ineffective to do anything of any value.

IMO




Essentially, every member of Congress is a compulsive liar because they claim they represent the people, while in fact they represent their corporate sponsors. Do you know of any Congress members that even mention the word "lobbyists"?




I couldn’t have said that any better. You know the reality of it all. Why play along?




I'm not sure what "Why play along" means?  I have been suggesting that driving to the voting booth isn't going to change anything in this environment. Real change comes from hitting the streets in a unified manner, the problem in the US is that we're not a unified group of citizens on almost any issue.

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    #25871510 - 03/13/19 10:47 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

Once that happens we’ll be a democracy and not a republic. That’s the thing I believe scares the establishment more than anything.

That’s why Washington is gridlocked because a United front means we come for them. But we argue and bicker just like them and that’s exactly how they want it.

That’s why I don’t participate anymore. I won’t allow myself to play their game.

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    #25871514 - 03/13/19 10:49 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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    #25871528 - 03/13/19 10:56 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes




What do you think Bernie is going to do if he gets elected?  Even better question: what will congress allow him to do?

Nothing will change the status quo-nothing.



Exactly. This is what most of the politics forum guys don't understand.



On the contrary every single major politician is subtly shaping the "status quo" and most people don't have the eyes to see it(;
Doesnt mean its in a way you care about, it's in a way they care about.

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    #25871536 - 03/13/19 11:03 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

The Dick Cheney’s are the status quo.

The way I see it better people have tried and they’re not here anymore.


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    #25871544 - 03/13/19 11:09 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

I can sum it up by saying the only real change will come is when we all stand together. If that’s even possible anymore?


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    #25871809 - 03/13/19 01:49 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

Just cause it sucks, doesnt mean it isnt changing :awesome:

In a historical sense, things get worse before they get better... so the worse it gets, the better!


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    #25871811 - 03/13/19 01:49 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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On the contrary every single major politician is subtly shaping the "status quo" and most people don't have the eyes to see it(;
Doesnt mean its in a way you care about, it's in a way they care about.

Take Dick Cheney as a good example.



Everything changes all the time AFAIK. Burger flippers changes society. But let's look at this more pracitical.

Status quo to me is:


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    #25871819 - 03/13/19 01:54 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

Eh what's 50 or so years but a slice of pie! Things are always rebalancing, and shifting- and either people adapt, or the world makes them. Perhaps you don't live here? If you really are Estonian. But the ideology is very clearly different with under 40's here.. I don't think this pattern will survive the passing of the boomers


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    #25871827 - 03/13/19 01:57 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

Tribalism and class differences has been since dawn of man in large populations. :shrug:

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    #25871912 - 03/13/19 02:43 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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What do you think Bernie is going to do if he gets elected?  Even better question: what will congress allow him to do?



I'm not sure Congress will allow him to do what he wants, but if the President pushes for things that are popular with the people (Medicare for All), and Congress doesn't go along, a lot of Congressman could lose their seats; then things will happen.


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What do you think Bernie is going to do if he gets elected?  Even better question: what will congress allow him to do?



I'm not sure Congress will allow him to do what he wants, but if the President pushes for things that are popular with the people (Medicare for All), and Congress doesn't go along, a lot of Congressman could lose their seats; then things will happen.




Sometimes I feel like we’re dealing with a hydra

You take a head and two more grow. I’m glad you’re optimistic, but where we are now is, even if it’s a great idea, people will oppose because a D proposed it. The reverse is also true if an R proposed it.

How can we move passed this cycle of D’s vs R’s?

That’s the only thing I can think about doing is just not participating until there’s another option?

I don’t know what else to do?


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    #25871994 - 03/13/19 03:30 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

I agree to some extent.  The corporate media will always ensure they help the establishment stay in power.

I guess the best we can hope for is that people slowly begin to realize this and quit relying on corporate media to tell them who to vote for.


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    #25872030 - 03/13/19 03:48 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

I think we will slowly move past the D versus R situation, and the corporate media control to a degree, as cable TV slowly phases out. I haven't had cable in something like 6 years and people younger than me, me in my mid 30's, are ditching cable and broadcast TV faster than ever. Of course there brings the need to think critically, especially so with internet derived news, but this has only brought to light the importance of thinking critical. A skill I see many young adults extremely adept at. This hate for millennial is more a thing of jealousy in my opinion than it is in sound critique of a generation. Sure millenials have gotten fucked in a lot of ways, but they are the smartest generation the U.S. has seen. They are just more adept to the modern age.


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I think we will slowly move past the D versus R situation, and the corporate media control to a degree, as cable TV slowly phases out. I haven't had cable in something like 6 years and people younger than me, me in my mid 30's, are ditching cable and broadcast TV faster than ever. Of course there brings the need to think critically, especially so with internet derived news, but this has only brought to light the importance of thinking critical. A skill I see many young adults extremely adept at. This hate for millennial is more a thing of jealousy in my opinion than it is in sound critique of a generation. Sure millenials have gotten fucked in a lot of ways, but they are the smartest generation the U.S. has seen. They are just more adept to the modern age.




I agree that millennials have really "gotten fucked in a lot of ways", but I don't hear many of them being critical thinkers, they are more officially "educated" in terms of college degrees than previous generations, but they have also been indoctrinated by the educational system in a lot of ways that has eroded their critical thinking skills.

I hate to generalize a whole generation of US citizens, but I don't think they understand how and why they've been fucked over.

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    #25872201 - 03/13/19 05:18 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

Nah, they understand better than the rich and powerful give them credit for. It's ironic you believe otherwise. Many of them could care less about the paper they were given, instead they are ready for change. This why the Trumpsters are running scared, clutching their pearls, and voting for rich orange man. Change is a comin' and it's not drawn along the lines of color. Bernie is just the start.


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Nah, they understand better than the rich and powerful give them credit for. It's ironic you believe otherwise. Many of them could care less about the paper they were given, instead they are ready for change. This why the Trumpsters are running scared, clutching their pearls, and voting for rich orange man. Change is a comin' and it's not drawn along the lines of color. Bernie is just the start.




Obama had those millennials fooled for almost his whole 8 year term, they couldn't believe they got the old screw job from their savior.

You do realize Trump was the most anti-establishment President in recent times?  The reality that he's a POS sellout is after the fact.

https://www.vox.com/policy-and-politics/2019/3/12/18260271/trump-medicaid-social-security-medicare-budget-cuts

https://www.cnbc.com/2019/03/12/trump-2020-budget-proposes-reduced-medicare-and-medicaid-spending.html

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    #25872252 - 03/13/19 05:41 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

Says you, the guy who proclaimed Trump was doing the right stuff something like 6 months ago.


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    #25872337 - 03/13/19 06:21 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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Says you, the guy who proclaimed Trump was doing the right stuff something like 6 months ago.




Is that so?  I've been extremely critical of Trump since day one, if you have evidence to show otherwise, let's see it.  :popcorn:

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    #25872422 - 03/13/19 06:53 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

That doesn’t mean you weren’t a card carrying member.


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    #25872542 - 03/13/19 07:37 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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That doesn’t mean you weren’t a card carrying member.




Give it up mate, you're not going to win this debate.

From 2 years ago-

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    #25872641 - 03/13/19 08:18 PM (5 years, 16 days ago)

I’m not even going to spend the time to find all of your posts advocating Trump. It’s a waste of my time.


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    #25873042 - 03/14/19 01:12 AM (5 years, 16 days ago)

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Paul Ryan says several Democrats can beat Trump and that the President will not win if the campaign is being defined as about him as opposed to his policies. First, Paul Ryan is an asshole, but still. When has Trump ever done anything that is not about him? Is it even possible? Second, his policies don't give him much to run on. The tax cuts are less popular after people have had time to evaluate them. He decimated his own stock market gains. Their is a fairly strong anti-immigration sentiment with the public, but Trump has lost a lot of ground outside his base, by trying to force the wall with government shutdowns. The whole rah rah Israel and Democrats are anti-Jewish doesn't play with the public, except fundamentalists, who like Trump, have no liking for Jews except that they control Jesus' hometown. 


I think people now know him too well to reelect him.




There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.




The Democrats have screwed up a lot of elections, so maybe, but I don't view Trump as any kind of a favorite. Hard to do polling till the Dem field narrows, but Trump's unfavorability has built up considerable momentum and wasn't good to begin with. Beating Hillary doesn't prove much.


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    #25873235 - 03/14/19 06:15 AM (5 years, 15 days ago)

I think Trump is going to have a hard time standing on stage and debating with the amount of ammo there is against him. Sure he can lie and squirm but that can only last so long. Sarah Huckabee Slanders won't be there to protect him.

I stand by this, if the Dems fuck up their candidate selection, I will vote for Trump. I'd rather take congress than have a half-assed Dem President. This isn't to say that I believe Trump will do a better job than a bad Dem President, not even close, it's just he's such a moron that he'd push congress to a Democratic control. That I believe is a bigger advantage than a sitting president.


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    #25873309 - 03/14/19 07:32 AM (5 years, 15 days ago)

The debates will be a great platform for Donald president to talk about his favorite topic-himself!

Donald President could make silly faces the whole time and I really believe his base would love it.

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I think we will slowly move past the D versus R situation, and the corporate media control to a degree, as cable TV slowly phases out. I haven't had cable in something like 6 years and people younger than me, me in my mid 30's, are ditching cable and broadcast TV faster than ever. Of course there brings the need to think critically, especially so with internet derived news, but this has only brought to light the importance of thinking critical. A skill I see many young adults extremely adept at. This hate for millennial is more a thing of jealousy in my opinion than it is in sound critique of a generation. Sure millenials have gotten fucked in a lot of ways, but they are the smartest generation the U.S. has seen. They are just more adept to the modern age.




I agree that millennials have really "gotten fucked in a lot of ways", but I don't hear many of them being critical thinkers, they are more officially "educated" in terms of college degrees than previous generations, but they have also been indoctrinated by the educational system in a lot of ways that has eroded their critical thinking skills.

I hate to generalize a whole generation of US citizens, but I don't think they understand how and why they've been fucked over.







Academics are well educated on how garbagey the state of our planet is in.
Where's the revolution?

Academics in majority repeat history and tries to get the most benefits they can.

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    #25873457 - 03/14/19 09:19 AM (5 years, 15 days ago)

I hardly consider humanities anything of substance.

You will find your educated college students in the sciences.


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    #25873468 - 03/14/19 09:24 AM (5 years, 15 days ago)

You will find your educated college students in the sciences.

They're as priviliged as any other college student. I see no revolution. However their field is very state-of-the-art and sought after for any awakened human being.

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Privileged?


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    #25873478 - 03/14/19 09:29 AM (5 years, 15 days ago)

Don't make me go all foreign on you:

Jeg ELSKER verdensfred. :heart:

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You are saying science majors are specifically privileged? As compared to who?


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Any US college student is privileged. I'm not saying science majors are necessarily more privileged than others.

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Is this privilege a bad thing?


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    #25873622 - 03/14/19 11:00 AM (5 years, 15 days ago)

I don't buy it -- at least from PA.

All students got state grants that never needed payed back and federal loans were offered to everyone equally.

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You decide for yourself, dude:


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    #25876477 - 03/15/19 05:35 PM (5 years, 14 days ago)

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeb-bush-wants-a-republican-to-primary-trump/

How could Jeb become even a bigger loser, yet he just did.  :huxleyfacepalm:

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Fuckin' Jeb is awesome,

As far as republican candidates go :lol:  -

He hasn't seemingly replaced all of his emotional pathways with sociopathic literature yet... he sometimes even seems to possess a little kindness!

He also strikes me as a weird hypochondriac and that vaguely nice uncle in front of some people - but a totally different person as soon as everyone leaves

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    #25876522 - 03/15/19 05:50 PM (5 years, 14 days ago)

I also like him because republicans are such cunts to him,

disparaging him for shallow surface reasons - like the presidency is a high school locker room and he's the kid that showed up in whitey tighties in the 8th grade :lolsy:


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https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeb-bush-wants-a-republican-to-primary-trump/

How could Jeb become even a bigger loser, yet he just did.  :huxleyfacepalm:




Primarying Trump is a dumb political move at this point. The GOP’s base is mask off white nationalist now, rebuking Trump only hurts their chances.


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    #25878975 - 03/16/19 10:01 PM (5 years, 13 days ago)

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Any cluey picks humanity as one tribe. If you want world peace that is.



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: meltdowner] * 1
    #25879436 - 03/17/19 05:34 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

World peace is a hippy fantasy.

With that mindset, sure.

Trump 2020.

Trump divides human beings.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton]
    #25879470 - 03/17/19 06:27 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Trump 2020


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25879492 - 03/17/19 06:59 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Quote:

Pinkerton said:
Quote:

XUL said:
At this point, he still has my vote.

America first. Anything else and you lose my vote.





Does Trump fill these criterias:

Lack of guilt/remorse
Lack of empathy
Lack of deep emotional attachments
Narcissism
Superficial charm
Dishonesty
Manipulativeness
Reckless risk-taking

"The psychopath is callous, yet charming. He or she will con and manipulate others with charisma and intimidation and can effectively mimic feelings to present as "normal" to society. The psychopath is organized in their criminal thinking and behavior, and can maintain good emotional and physical control, displaying little to no emotional or autonomic arousal, even under situations that most would find threatening or horrifying. The psychopath is keenly aware that what he or she is doing is wrong, but does not care."

- Kelly McAleer, Psy.D

:chump:



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton]
    #25879532 - 03/17/19 08:06 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Are you the local witch doctor?

Tell me you at least have a Ph.D in psychiatry.


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    #25879559 - 03/17/19 08:25 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

You don’t need to be psychiatrist or any formal training to observe other people’s behavior. I knew trump was a remorseless, dishonest, manipulative, narcissist with no empathy for anyone else’s else two decades ago.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25879562 - 03/17/19 08:26 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Who are you rooting for next election? So far.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25879567 - 03/17/19 08:31 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Also, psychiatry is a medical discipline. Psychiatrists have an MD.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25879573 - 03/17/19 08:34 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Pffftt..

Damn edumacated people.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25879682 - 03/17/19 09:56 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

I thought that you were well heeled.  Expensive private schooling and whatnot.  Maybe I'm misremembering or getting you confused with another member.  Now that i think of it, that may have been webster.  I wonder what ever happened to that guy.  I think he owes koods a humjob.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25879731 - 03/17/19 10:26 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

I simply congealed in a pod at the ripe age of 18.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25879927 - 03/17/19 11:49 AM (5 years, 12 days ago)

Koods wants Bernie or bust!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25880048 - 03/17/19 12:35 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

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I thought that you were well heeled.  Expensive private schooling and whatnot.  Maybe I'm misremembering or getting you confused with another member.  Now that i think of it, that may have been webster.  I wonder what ever happened to that guy.  I think he owes koods a humjob.




I think Webster got banned. That goofy Republican kid was a laugh riot. I miss that.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #25880117 - 03/17/19 01:02 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

lol I forgot about webster


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25880201 - 03/17/19 01:45 PM (5 years, 12 days ago)

I heard one of Trump's new election pledges is to put one of these on the podium in every classroom to protect the kids



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25886837 - 03/20/19 09:52 PM (5 years, 9 days ago)

All the lefty trolls on this site crack me up.  Trump will win in 2020, and it's mostly thanks to you!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25886841 - 03/20/19 09:53 PM (5 years, 9 days ago)

Quote:

koods said:
You don’t need to be psychiatrist or any formal training to observe other people’s behavior. I knew trump was a remorseless, dishonest, manipulative, narcissist with no empathy for anyone else’s else two decades ago.



You might want to go get that education...


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