2c-gLee said:

You do not have any apparent problem with propaganda organizations that are funded (and thus controlled) by the Russian Government, such as RT.com, which you have repeatedly cited on this forum, so what exactly is the point that you are trying make here?

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koods said:

The Russian scale starts at 14%. The US scale ends at 9.2.

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koods said:

You can’t use annual data to extrapolate weekly or monthly inflation rates. If you want to examine the trends after the war started you can’t use numbers that are based on prices a year ago, which the annual data is.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

2c-gLee said:

You do not have any apparent problem with propaganda organizations that are funded (and thus controlled) by the Russian Government, such as RT.com, which you have repeatedly cited on this forum, so what exactly is the point that you are trying make here?

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No one here has found RT telling a lie yet.  On the other hand, let's just look at the first bullet Psilynut2 posted.

In October 2016, Daghestani imam Magmednabi Magomedov was sentenced to five years in prison for "inciting hatred" after he visited a local police station and demanded the release of several locals whom he believed to be wrongly held.

No, that's not why he was jailed.  He is a Muslim extremist who made public calls for terrorist activity (Russians have nothing against Muslims by the way - 10% of Russia is Muslim).

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made a public speech containing statements justifying terrorist activity

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ouch. that would be like getting 5yrs if you speak in support of david koresh. what a wonderful country

Enlil said:

Bigbadwooof said:

I can't believe Enlil made that comment.

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It's typical falcon misrepresentation.  My point was, is, and always has been, that forced speech is the most egregious infringement on the freedom of speech, and that requiring private companies to publish speech it disagrees with is forced speech.

Of course, Falcon thinks that anyone other than him should have to store, copy and disseminate whatever offensive, false, or otherwise unacceptable speech some random person might choose to post on anyone's property other than his own.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

I would rather travel to the places in question.  I went to Crimea in 2017, and I'm going to Mariupol in about 3 years (when Russia estimates it will be rebuilt).  It appears there will be another shroomery member going with me; you're welcome to come as well if discovering the truth doesn't scare you.

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mushboy said:

i think twitter being a PLATFORM, like shroomery, is the main issue to consider.

nobody is censoring speech imo just enforcing rules they are allowed. if you want to say something, and twitter doesnt let you, you could always text or call or talk in person?

i really dont understand why people care. its a platform to gossip. like, who really gives a fuck?

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Bigbadwooof said:

That's a good point, but because social media companies are companies, and not people, don't you think they ought to abide by their policy about which speech is permissible on their platform?

If their policy explicitly states that it not permissible to speak in a way that frames Ukraine in a negative light, then at least everyone would know the score.

It seems to me that social media platforms are a unique situation. The social media market itself provides the user with little more than a platform for speech.

I really just don't like the way that fb and other social media platforms censor users, without clearly stating censorable transgressions in the policy. They have done it to me, for talking about Trump being a draft dodger, etc.

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Enlil said:

Bigbadwooof said:

That's a good point, but because social media companies are companies, and not people, don't you think they ought to abide by their policy about which speech is permissible on their platform?

If their policy explicitly states that it not permissible to speak in a way that frames Ukraine in a negative light, then at least everyone would know the score.

It seems to me that social media platforms are a unique situation. The social media market itself provides the user with little more than a platform for speech.

I really just don't like the way that fb and other social media platforms censor users, without clearly stating censorable transgressions in the policy. They have done it to me, for talking about Trump being a draft dodger, etc.

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Companies aren't magical creatures.  They're made up of people.  When you post nazi propaganda on facebook, a human being pays other human beings to make servers copy that propaganda and send it to other people.  Who are you to force those people to do that?

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mushboy said:

you cant call someone and say im going to kill you and not expect cops to knock on your door

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mushboy said:

exactly.

momma always told me dont put nothin in writting and never say anything over the phone.

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Brian Jones said:

Eric Trump took the 5th over 500 times in his deposition on the New York civil investigation of the Trump Organization's property valuations. Reportedly, Ivanka and Donald Jr. never took the 5th.

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mushboy said:

shroomery is different.

shroomery is better

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