Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Even when Trump was President, they leaked everything about him, which in most cases turned out to be absolutely nothing.

People in the deep state hate Trump.  Look at how hard they're trying to keep him from running for office in 2024, especially because he's currently favored to win. 

I don't think Ukraine would be fighting Russia right now if Trump were President.  Instead we have people here saying they'd gladly give up $50 billion in taxes to support Ukraine because the establishment media keeps telling them that Ukraine is going to win, but this is the reality thus far.

We're pissing our money away, and our sanctions are hurting the West more than they're hurting Russia.  Don't take my word for it, Inflation has been next to nothing in Russia since May, while Western inflation is skyrocketing, and the Ruble is stronger than before the war:

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masspan said:

Trump should, might not be able to, eat a dick

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koods said:

Youre comparing week over week inflation in Russia to year over year inflation in the US.

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koods said:

Why don’t you put up the week over week data for the US.

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Why don't you?    As wooof said, I couldn't find it.

koods said:

Why don’t you show us what the year over year inflation in Russia is: 15.9%

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koods said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if our week over week inflation is more negative than Russia.

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Here's a comparison of annual inflation:



Notice that inflation is trending down in Russia while it's trending up in the US.  That means interest rates are getting higher in the US, while they're going down in Russia.

This war is a colossal blunder.

Bigbadwooof said:

Falcon:
I have to be honest, I just got out of jail and I have no fucking clue what's going on with Ukraine and Russia. I actually decided to check out the political forum, to possibly learn a bit about current world affairs.

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Bigbadwooof said:

How much pain will America vote for, before insisting on something better? We can do so much better, and it wouldn't take much. I am deeply saddened by American politics.

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Bigbadwooof said:

At this point, I would almost say the left is more deplorable than the right. I am both astounded and disgusted.

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Unfortunately, I agree. 

undersativaskies said:

Not sure why youre on this site. I don't like the idea of censoring people but you beat just one drum. You're never open to news that goes against your grain. This is the only sub you frequent and it doesn't make much sense mang.

You say you see both sides but all I see is you pushing one narrative.

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undersativaskies said:

Not sure why youre on this site. I don't like the idea of censoring people but you beat just one drum. You're never open to news that goes against your grain. This is the only sub you frequent and it doesn't make much sense mang.

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undersativaskies said:

You say you see both sides but all I see is you pushing one narrative.

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The EASY way to convert me is to show counterevidence.  No one is doing that here. 

I guess I we can switch from evidence-based arguments to "my side is better than your side" if you want?  My side is the U.S. 

Bigbadwooof said:

I gotta say, back when Jimmy Dore was on TYT, I really didn't like him. Now that he has his own thing goin on though, he's pretty undeniable.

Anyway, great clip.

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Bigbadwooof said:

I can't believe Enlil made that comment. I wish I were aware of the full context of his statement. I know at times he has said some things that have struck me as belligerently digging his heals into an argument that was no longer tenable, but generally, he makes quite solid arguments, even when playing devil's advocate.

I can only imagine that his argument must have been that 'government has no place regulating speech, and that private businesses have the right to control how their platform is used.' Making legislation, like what you have described in Russia, 'only opens the door for tyrants to prosecute free speech.'

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Bigbadwooof said:

If that is the overall point, then I would unfortunately have to agree.

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Bigbadwooof said:

Many people are turning to the Jimmy Dore's and Alex Jones's of the world, because they no longer trust mainstream news organizations. I would rather com here and discuss politics, than watch CNN, for information about current affairs.

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Bigbadwooof said:

Meddling with free speech is very tricky business with the potential to do untold harm. I think it might be a good idea to disallow social media from censoring speech.

As they say, the only viable solution to unwanted speech/bad speech, is more speech.

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For social media I TOTALLY agree with you. 

Quote:

Interestingly, they passed a new law in Russia saying you can't knowingly tell a lie in the news, but over here you get censored for telling the truth.

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Quote:

There have been a large number of cases involving the criticism of things. In October 2016, Daghestani imam Magmednabi Magomedov was sentenced to five years in prison for "inciting hatred" after he visited a local police station and demanded the release of several locals whom he believed to be wrongly held.

In September 2016, Chechen journalist Zhalaudi Geriyev was sentenced to three years in prison for marijuana possession, a charge he denied. Russian and international activists have said he was punished for his critical writing about Chechen strongman Ramzan Kadyrov.

In December 2016, a Tyumen region court sentenced Aleksei Kungurov to 2 1/2 years in prison for "publicly justifying terrorism" for a blog post he wrote criticizing Russia's intervention in the war in Syria.

In 2011, former Interior Ministry Major Igor Matveyev was convicted in Vladivostok of "abuse of office" and sentenced to four years in prison for posting a video in which he claimed that Interior Ministry troops in the Far East were being given dog food to eat.

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Bigbadwooof said:

I can't believe Enlil made that comment.

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Enlil said:

Bigbadwooof said:

I can't believe Enlil made that comment.

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It's typical falcon misrepresentation.  My point was, is, and always has been, that forced speech is the most egregious infringement on the freedom of speech, and that requiring private companies to publish speech it disagrees with is forced speech.

Of course, Falcon thinks that anyone other than him should have to store, copy and disseminate whatever offensive, false, or otherwise unacceptable speech some random person might choose to post on anyone's property other than his own.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

koods said:

Youre comparing week over week inflation in Russia to year over year inflation in the US.

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No I'm not.  Where did I show year over year inflation for the US?

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I said you are comparing week over week in Russia to year over year in the west. Right here:

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Inflation has been next to nothing in Russia since May, while Western inflation is skyrocketing,

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What are the recent week over week numbers for western countries? Certainly week over week in the US is now deflationary

koods said:

Why don’t you show us what the year over year inflation in Russia is: 15.9%

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Because I'm interested in the trend since AFTER the war started.

koods said:

I wouldn’t be surprised if our week over week inflation is more negative than Russia.

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Here's a comparison of annual inflation:



Notice that inflation is trending down in Russia while it's trending up in the US.  That means interest rates are getting higher in the US, while they're going down in Russia.

This war is a colossal blunder.

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That chart is ridiculous. The Russian scale starts at 14%. The US scale ends at 9.2.

You can’t use annual data to extrapolate weekly or monthly inflation rates. If you want to examine the trends after the war started you can’t use numbers that are based on prices a year ago, which the annual data is.

Lynnch said:

It's weird how you turn every thread in the subforum into the same list of talking points brought up in the ukraine thread.

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

Did you know RFE/RL is a Government funded propaganda organization?

I'd be willing to bet there's a lot more to those stories than what they are telling you.

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