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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25856233 - 03/06/19 03:10 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016




No, I'm not wrong, but continue pissing people off by accusing them of serious offenses without any evidence.

How did that nonsense work for the NFL last year?




Pretty well

https://www.google.com/amp/www.espn.com/nfl/story/_/id/25403546/nfl-television-ratings-5-percent-2018-season%3fplatform=amp




Maybe that's because the protesting is over.  :lol:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25856246 - 03/06/19 03:17 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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lol did you miss the part where the NFLPA won concessions from the league? Or where they gave Kaepernick $60,000,000 for not proving in court that the owners colluded against him?

What planet do you live on?




Yes, the NFL made a business decision and bought off the players. The end result is the protests are out of the NFL games, mission accomplished!!

And no, the NFL did not admit to colluding to keep him out. Also, where is the evidence of $60,000,000 settlement?  https://www.nbcsports.com/bayarea/49ers/settlement-amounts-nfl-compensating-colin-kaepernick-not-playing-football


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25856256 - 03/06/19 03:20 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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“Yeah keep it up leftists! Your brilliant plan of bringing awareness to social justice issues is causing billionaires to lose money. Even worse, it’s helping unionized labor!”

My god the horror.




Or it pissed off the vast majority of people that watch, attend games and buy products from advertisers associated with the NFL.

The NFL players were pissing on their own wallets and were too stupid to recognize it until the very end. Money talks and bullshit walks.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25856268 - 03/06/19 03:27 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




Racists and non-racists will vote for Trump again, just like they did for Bush, Clinton and Obama.

Objecting to PC policies hardly makes someone a racist, but I hope you already that know fact.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25856273 - 03/06/19 03:29 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

:rimshot:
:splooge:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
    #25856333 - 03/06/19 04:12 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




Racists and non-racists will vote for Trump again, just like they did for Bush, Clinton and Obama.

Objecting to PC policies hardly makes someone a racist, but I hope you already that know fact.




But youre ignoring the fact that many, likely most, of the most prominent and destructive racists and racist organizations love Trump. While those same also groups and people love to claim that political correctness is destroying the country. Coincidence? Not even close.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera] * 1
    #25856362 - 03/06/19 04:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

You're playing the same stupid game XUL plays when he lumps everyone who opposes Trump in with the most ridiculous SJWs.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Thundermuscle75]
    #25856418 - 03/06/19 05:02 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

XUL is not about Trump, he's about the dollar. When NYSE goes bullish, XUL goes droolish.

I'm playing mind games with you XUL. :wink:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25856419 - 03/06/19 05:03 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




Racists and non-racists will vote for Trump again, just like they did for Bush, Clinton and Obama.

Objecting to PC policies hardly makes someone a racist, but I hope you already that know fact.




But youre ignoring the fact that many, likely most, of the most prominent and destructive racists and racist organizations love Trump. While those same also groups and people love to claim that political correctness is destroying the country. Coincidence? Not even close.




Are there racists that oppose PC?  Yes. Are there non-racists that oppose PC?  Yes.

Are there racists that support Trump?  Yes. Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.

You're failing to establish any direct correlation and you're doing nothing other than making broad generalizations.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25856424 - 03/06/19 05:04 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.



That's a damnable lie.  There are people who self identify as non-racists who support Trump...


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Thundermuscle75] * 1
    #25856444 - 03/06/19 05:22 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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You're playing the same stupid game XUL plays when he lumps everyone who opposes Trump in with the most ridiculous SJWs.




The only validity to your point is that staunch SJW's are basically the same crazies as staunch racists and staunch anti-PCs.

But I've lumped nobody, the data is pretty clear. We can admit that racism is in inherent in the system, we can admit that racism is bad, we can attempt to address these issues. But when it's painted as PC culture then all of a sudden it's bad. Doesn't make much sense.

On the other hand, when you argue that cultures should never assimilate or mix and that races should always be separate while also arguing that your tired of political correctness being rudely shoved down your throat you aren't fighting against PC culture. You are a racist who uses anti-PC as a veiled attempt to hide racism.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: chibiabos]
    #25856449 - 03/06/19 05:24 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.



That's a damnable lie.  There are people who self identify as non-racists who support Trump...




Then there's at least 60 million racists in US today?  If you want to dilute the term to be completely meaningless, then go right ahead. :shrug:

I think many Trump voters just opposed Hillary, that's not really a vote of support in my opinion.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
    #25856450 - 03/06/19 05:26 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Are there racists that oppose PC?  Yes. Are there non-racists that oppose PC?  Yes.

Are there racists that support Trump?  Yes. Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.

You're failing to establish any direct correlation and you're doing nothing other than making broad generalizations.




I never said anything that would counter those points.

The majority of racists are also anti-PC. Why? There are scholarly articles dating back to the 1980's on the matter, this is no surprise. And it's universal, it happens in Europe, Asia, Africa, everywhere. Those who are anti-PC almost without fail are racists.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25856451 - 03/06/19 05:27 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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qman said:
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“Yeah keep it up leftists! Your brilliant plan of bringing awareness to social justice issues is causing billionaires to lose money. Even worse, it’s helping unionized labor!”

My god the horror.




Or it pissed off the vast majority of people that watch, attend games and buy products from advertisers associated with the NFL.

The NFL players were pissing on their own wallets and were too stupid to recognize it until the very end. Money talks and bullshit walks.




Again: The players won this fight.

I could give a shit whether smooth brained morons boycott their favorite sport because (whatever dumbass reason).


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25856455 - 03/06/19 05:30 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Then there's at least 60 million racists in US today?  If you want to dilute the term to be completely meaningless, then go right ahead. :shrug:

What defines a racist IYO?

I think many Trump voters just opposed Hillary, that's not really a vote of support in my opinion.

Voting for the lesser of two evils. In Americans opinion Trump was the pound and Hillary was the dollar.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #25856458 - 03/06/19 05:34 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

There's no doubt that Trump won the election on the anti Dem train, and anti Hillary helped. Of course we shouldn't forget that Trump lost the popular vote, so there's that.

But Trump drew out the racists like we haven't see in ages. A vocal minority they surely are, but it doesn't mean they weren't empowered enough to do some murdering.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25856461 - 03/06/19 05:36 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Define a racist.

I think there are far more of them than weak klansmen.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton]
    #25856517 - 03/06/19 06:09 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

Certainly, and that's my point. Just because you are anti-pc and don't consider yourself a racist doesn't mean you aren't saying racist shit. And when it comes to racism, if you say racist shit and mean it, even if you don't realize that you are saying racist shit, you are a racist.

I'm not necessarily pro PC, but I think it's played a necessary part in redefining how we apply race to language. I think we will find a middle ground at some point, but Trump being a retard drew out the retards at least in part due to his own lack of PC sensibilities.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25856555 - 03/06/19 06:28 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

I agree with you but I don't think we will find a middle ground unless something big happens. Racism is way too confined in western culture. The whole society must unlearn and start from scratch with a complete new system of living. Bigshot moneymakers will not let this happen.

Check out blackpeoplematrix.

Now I'm looking for qman's definition of racism.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25856900 - 03/06/19 08:35 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Are there racists that oppose PC?  Yes. Are there non-racists that oppose PC?  Yes.

Are there racists that support Trump?  Yes. Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.

You're failing to establish any direct correlation and you're doing nothing other than making broad generalizations.




I never said anything that would counter those points.

The majority of racists are also anti-PC. Why? There are scholarly articles dating back to the 1980's on the matter, this is no surprise. And it's universal, it happens in Europe, Asia, Africa, everywhere. Those who are anti-PC almost without fail are racists.




You do realize there's plenty of non-whites that are anti-PC?  Are they "without fail are racists"?  Or do they get an exemption? 

Many people that are anti-PC hold traditional values, they could be white, Asian, Hispanic or black. :shrug:

BTW, let's see these "scholarly articles dating back to the 1980's on the matter" that you hold in such high regard.

"this is no surprise"

The surprise should be that you're making a bunch of generalization without any evidence, but it's not.


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