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Enlil
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That's because you misunderstood your source. The judge didn't say that Trump couldn't release an unredacted version. The judge said that the government wasn't required to do so.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
#27031877 - 11/10/20 03:56 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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It wasn't Trump who decided what would be released, as koods said.
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Yes it was. He promised that the whole thing would be released unredacted. He chose not to do that. It's a pretty simple equation.
He promised the report with no redactions; He gave nothing.
That lawsuit referenced in the link you keep posting is completely irrelevant to the discussion. That was a lawsuit brought in 2019 by citizens for the release of the report. The judge denied that release, but did require them to release more unredacted portions than they originally released.
That has literally nothing to do with Trump promising to release the whole thing and then choosing not to do so. In fact, the order you are obsessed with was issued on September 30th of this year, which is BEFORE Trump promised to release the whole report unredacted.
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: It wasn't Trump who decided what would be released, as koods said.
I never said that. You’re the one who posted trumps tweet saying he would declassify everything with no redactions. He hasn’t. I believe I told you he wouldn’t at the time. He’s a liar. You should know this by now.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#27033996 - 11/11/20 06:36 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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A Greek Tragedy in the making. I think full fledged meltdown just after Christmas. We need to put a wager on dates.
"Nobody wants to report that Pennsylvania and Michigan didn’t allow our Poll Watchers and/or Vote Observers to Watch or Observe. This is responsible for hundreds of thousands of votes that should not be allowed to count. Therefore, I easily win both states. Report the News!"
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As if that would invalidate votes.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] 1
#27034022 - 11/11/20 06:54 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Happy Veterans day:
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/525564-military-voters-included-on-trump-campaign-list-of-improperly-cast-ballots
A list produced by the Trump campaign purporting to detail just over 3,000 instances of alleged voter fraud in Nevada contains hundreds of addresses used by active-duty military members and their families.
The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that the list of 3,062 alleged instances of people voting in Nevada while living elsewhere included hundreds of active-duty military members who apparently live in Nevada but are stationed elsewhere in the U.S. or overseas.
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SirTripAlot said: Happy Veterans day:
https://thehill.com/policy/defense/525564-military-voters-included-on-trump-campaign-list-of-improperly-cast-ballots
A list produced by the Trump campaign purporting to detail just over 3,000 instances of alleged voter fraud in Nevada contains hundreds of addresses used by active-duty military members and their families.
The Wall Street Journal reported Sunday that the list of 3,062 alleged instances of people voting in Nevada while living elsewhere included hundreds of active-duty military members who apparently live in Nevada but are stationed elsewhere in the U.S. or overseas.
Biden is so far ahead of trump even if you gave Trump those three thousand votes it still would not make the slightest difference at all.
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All the interference and fraud that actually changed things this election cycle is all directly tied to the GOP anyway.
https://www.local10.com/news/local/2020/11/11/evidence-suggests-several-state-senate-candidates-were-plants-funded-by-dark-money/
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MIAMI – Why would candidates for Florida Senate seats do no campaigning, no fundraising, have no issue platforms, nor make any effort to get votes?
Local 10 News has found evidence to suggest three such candidates in three Florida Senate district races, two of them in Miami Dade County, were shill candidates whose presence in the races were meant to syphon votes from Democratic candidates.
Comparisons of the no-party candidates' public campaign records show similarities and connections that suggest they are all linked by funding from the same dark money donors, and part of an elaborate scheme to upset voting patterns.
In one of those races, District 37, a recount is underway because the spread between the Democratic and Republican candidates is only 31 votes. The third party candidate received more than 6300 votes.
That third party candidate is Alexis Rodriguez, who has the same last name as the Democratic incumbent senator Jose Javier Rodriguez. The Republican challenger is Ileana Garcia.
Alexis Rodriguez falsified his address on his campaign filing form last June. The couple who now live at the Palmetto Bay address say they have been repeatedly harassed since then by people looking for Rodriguez, who hadn’t lived there in five years.
Local 10 visited Rodriguez’s place of business Tuesday, where Rodriguez lied about his identity. Pretending to be a business partner, Rodriguez shed little light on his sudden candidacy in the District 37 race and lack of fundraising or campaigning.
Local 10 began investigating Rodriguez’s candidacy because of a hunch by Executive Producer Natalie Morera de Varona last month. She was collecting candidates' headshots for election broadcast graphics and was curious why a candidate was nowhere to be found, not returning phone calls.
A search of campaign documents filed by Rodriguez led to a money trail and campaign finance connections with other no-party third candidates in Florida Senate District 9 in Central Florida, and District 39 in Miami-Dade.
The District 39 candidate is 81-year-old Celso Alfonso, a retiree who named the woman he calls his wife as campaign treasurer. She owns a day spa, and the home where we found Alfonso Tuesday afternoon.
He, too, lied about his identity at first, and finally admitted to being the candidate.
Alfonso claimed he had a lifelong dream to be in public service. He said he filed on his own, that no one assisted him.
A comparison of candidates Alfonso and Rodriguez show unusual similarities.
Both filed as No Party Affiliated candidates, yet both had recently been registered Republicans.
Both qualified as candidate on the same day, June 12, 2020, by paying a qualifying fee.
Both listed Gmail addresses with identical patterns: first initial, last name and district number and 2020.
Both list one single contribution to their campaign; both contributions are $2000 self-loans, presumably to pay the filing fee.
Both candidates' support appears to come from the same Political Action Committee, “Our Florida” - that have no previous political contributions or expenditures listed. It is the PAC that paid for campaign fliers for the candidates, all done by the same Clermont, Florida mail house, Advance Impressions.
Celso Alfonso gave conflicting answers about campaign fliers, first claiming there were none, then claiming his own campaign paid for them, though that expenditure is not listed in his campaign finance report. An unlisted campaign expenditure could be a campaign finance violation.
That $370,000 PAC expenditure to the printing house on Oct. 5 is the sole expenditure of “Our Florida”. And the PAC’s only contributor is an entity called Proclivity, whose $370,000 contribution is listed two days earlier.
Proclivity lists an address that traces back to a mailbox in a UPS Store in Atlanta.
Florida law allows the group to keep people behind its money private.
Local 10 News could not locate any businesses registered in Florida or Georgia under the name Proclivity.
The end of the money trail leaves no information on who is ultimately funding at least three candidates for Florida Senate who did no campaigning and no fundraising, whose presence in the race might have recalculated the number of voters who cast votes for the Democrats in the race.
Alex Rodriguez received 3% of the D37 vote, more than 6300 votes. The race, currently in recount, has a margin of .02 between the Democrat incumbent and Republican challenger.
The race for D39 was decided by 12.3 percent, a large enough margin to make Celso Alfonso’s 1.5 percent of the vote moot.
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SirTripAlot said: A Greek Tragedy in the making. I think full fledged meltdown just after Christmas. We need to put a wager on dates.
"Nobody wants to report that Pennsylvania and Michigan didn’t allow our Poll Watchers and/or Vote Observers to Watch or Observe. This is responsible for hundreds of thousands of votes that should not be allowed to count. Therefore, I easily win both states. Report the News!"
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326679385966047236?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
They would be re-counted not invalidated.
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Shill candidates should be called Kanyes
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] 2
#27034066 - 11/11/20 07:26 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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I actually have to hand it to the libs this time. They showed far more maturity, candor, and honesty than expected. They made Republicans look like absolute fools. And when its white on rice like two political cults its hard to make that much contrast in ethics.
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Rounding that corner
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] 2
#27034505 - 11/12/20 04:36 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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0 for 4 days in oz. Not for anything other than perspective. I truly feel for you guys.
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bodhisatta said: I actually have to hand it to the libs this time. They showed far more maturity, candor, and honesty than expected. They made Republicans look like absolute fools. And when its white on rice like two political cults its hard to make that much contrast in ethics.
easy to act mature and responsible when you're team is winning. Liberals are still pathetic. Republicans took it 10x better than dems in 2016
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SirTripAlot said: A Greek Tragedy in the making. I think full fledged meltdown just after Christmas. We need to put a wager on dates.
"Nobody wants to report that Pennsylvania and Michigan didn’t allow our Poll Watchers and/or Vote Observers to Watch or Observe. This is responsible for hundreds of thousands of votes that should not be allowed to count. Therefore, I easily win both states. Report the News!"
https://mobile.twitter.com/realDonaldTrump/status/1326679385966047236?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
The problem with poll watchers in Michigan, which they have sued over, is that due to social distancing guidelines the republican poll watchers (as well as democrat poll watchers) were required to stand ten feet away. They did not like that, and sued because they wanted to stand six feet away. Some said they couldn;t see what was going on from six feet away.
https://www.businessinsider.com/trump-michigan-election-lawsuit-poll-watchers-social-distancing-complaints-2020-11
As for Pennsylvania, the problem appears that they were allowed only an equal number of poll watchers as the democrats had (ya know, can't be a republican without expecting special treatment) and were also forced to stand more than six feet away. This was a big deal.
https://apnews.com/article/poll-watchers-ballots-access-monitor-b4e95da6bcf2c8c0e9fda190b332d6d5
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos] 7
#27035036 - 11/12/20 11:13 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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The Venn diagram of the greatest Loser in US presidential history.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Kryptos]
#27035043 - 11/12/20 11:15 AM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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lol
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Meanwhile, behind the facade of Trumps DOJ:
https://www.justice.gov/opa/pr/statement-doj-office-professional-responsibility-report-jeffrey-epstein-2006-2008
The executive summary of a report by the Department of Justice’s Office of Professional Responsibility (OPR) was released today to affected victims. The summary, which is available on the Justice Department website, provides the essential details about the findings of OPR’s investigation into the U.S. Attorney’s Office for the Southern District of Florida’s resolution of its 2006–2008 federal criminal investigation of Jeffrey Epstein and its interactions with victims during the investigation.
While OPR did not find that Department attorneys engaged in professional misconduct, OPR concluded that the victims were not treated with the forthrightness and sensitivity expected by the Department. OPR also concluded that former U.S. Attorney Acosta exercised poor judgment by deciding to resolve the federal investigation through the non-prosecution agreement and when he failed to make certain that the state of Florida intended to and would notify victims identified through the federal investigation about the state plea hearing.
In order to fully respect the rights and dignity of Jeffrey Epstein’s many victims, the Department first invited victims and their legal representatives to be briefed this morning on the report’s contents. The Privacy Act prohibits the Department from releasing the full report publicly, but permits the report to be disclosed upon request to a congressional committee with jurisdiction over the matter, and this has been done.
We salute the courage of survivors as they again are confronted with these horrible crimes and their aftermath. The Department will thoroughly review the report, which will inform our implementation of the Crime Victims Rights’ Act and the Attorney General’s Guidelines on Victim and Witness Assistance.
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bodhisatta said: I actually have to hand it to the libs this time. They showed far more maturity, candor, and honesty than expected. They made Republicans look like absolute fools. And when its white on rice like two political cults its hard to make that much contrast in ethics.
I agree, and I didn't see that coming.
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BallHairDandruff said: easy to act mature and responsible when you're team is winning. Liberals are still pathetic. Republicans took it 10x better than dems in 2016
Republicans in 2016 were very quick to tell Dems to stop whining and move on. I don't see that as taking it better. The way Republicans acted in 2018 when there was also talk of fraud was in no way graceful.
But we all see what we want to see, right?
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