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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26688953 - 05/22/20 09:19 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Was it yours?


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26688960 - 05/22/20 09:23 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

i found it in my basement


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: cannabinated]
    #26688963 - 05/22/20 09:24 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

It was left there by the fent fairy


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26688966 - 05/22/20 09:26 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

china, same thing


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26689005 - 05/22/20 09:49 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Yet another study shows hydroxychloroquine is associated with a higher rate of death. It’s absolutely ridiculous this has become a political issue.

Trump should double his dose for better results

This was a huge study that examined 96,000 cases. Nobody should be taking hydroxychloroquine for covid. Hydroxychloroquine patients had double the rate of death. Democrat study out the U.K..

It’s unethical to continue hydroxychloroquine trials with this kind of data.

https://www.thelancet.com/journals/lancet/article/PIIS0140-6736(20)31180-6/fulltext

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96 032 patients (mean age 53·8 years, 46·3% women) with COVID-19 were hospitalised during the study period and met the inclusion criteria. Of these, 14 888 patients were in the treatment groups (1868 received chloroquine, 3783 received chloroquine with a macrolide, 3016 received hydroxychloroquine, and 6221 received hydroxychloroquine with a macrolide) and 81 144 patients were in the control group. 10 698 (11·1%) patients died in hospital. After controlling for multiple confounding factors (age, sex, race or ethnicity, body-mass index, underlying cardiovascular disease and its risk factors, diabetes, underlying lung disease, smoking, immunosuppressed condition, and baseline disease severity), when compared with mortality in the control group (9·3%), hydroxychloroquine (18·0%; hazard ratio 1·335, 95% CI 1·223–1·457), hydroxychloroquine with a macrolide (23·8%; 1·447, 1·368–1·531), chloroquine (16·4%; 1·365, 1·218–1·531), and chloroquine with a macrolide (22·2%; 1·368, 1·273–1·469) were each independently associated with an increased risk of in-hospital mortality.







Yes he should definitely double down on his beliefs and his dosage. I noticed that the mutual fund Trump invested in that makes this drug, Dodge and Cox International, is down over 25% YTD.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: natedawgnow]
    #26689023 - 05/22/20 09:56 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Enlil said:
That goes without saying.  Whether he's morbidly obese or just obese is something we'd need more data for, though.




We'll need longer tape measures to gather that data, plus measuring him is a two man job.

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6'3" at 243 lbs would put him at obese but not morbidly obese




Do you think that just maybe he weighs a bit over 243.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #26689045 - 05/22/20 10:10 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Yes he should definitely double down on his beliefs and his dosage.



That might kill him.  It seems he's smarter than that thus far.

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I noticed that the mutual fund Trump invested in that makes this drug, Dodge and Cox International, is down over 25% YTD.



I'm guessing you know mutual funds don't make drugs?  Regardless, Trump has very small financial tie to hydroxychloroquine producer.
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Each of three family funds list a holding in the Dodge & Cox International Stocks Fund, valued between $1,000 and $15,000.

The funds are managed by JP Morgan without any input from Trump.

According to a prospectus dated December 2019, the Dodge & Cox fund in question has Sanofi as its largest holding at 2.9%.

If all three Dodge & Cox holdings are worth the full $15,000 — $45,000 in total — then a 2.9% share of that is $1,305.

Assuming, each holding is the minimum $1,000 — a total of $3,000 — then the 2.9% stake would equate to $87.



So he's got between $87 and $1,305 invested in Sanofi.  :shrug:


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #26689048 - 05/22/20 10:12 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

When I got off work yesterday morning I turned on MSNBC. I can stand about 15 minutes of broadcast TV before I turn on the streaming channels. Morning Joe, aka Killer Joe, was doing a montage of Trump tapes from the day before. While Joe obviously edited this to show Trump in the worst possible light, still.

Trump has no working knowledge of what per capita means (just like one of our regular posters). Then Trump was being questioned by a women about our high infection rate relative to have only a little over 4% of the world's population. He replied that this was true but we were second best in lower fatality rates. The show then showed graphics that we were one of the worst countries for fatality rates of the 30 something countries they had data on.

But there's good news on the horizon. The virus has started to devastate Brazil and they are bulldozing mass graves as fast as they can. That should push us up one notch.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #26689059 - 05/22/20 10:17 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Yes he should definitely double down on his beliefs and his dosage.



That might kill him.  It seems he's smarter than that thus far.

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Brian Jones said:
I noticed that the mutual fund Trump invested in that makes this drug, Dodge and Cox International, is down over 25% YTD.



I'm guessing you know mutual funds don't make drugs?  Regardless, Trump has very small financial tie to hydroxychloroquine producer.
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Each of three family funds list a holding in the Dodge & Cox International Stocks Fund, valued between $1,000 and $15,000.

The funds are managed by JP Morgan without any input from Trump.

According to a prospectus dated December 2019, the Dodge & Cox fund in question has Sanofi as its largest holding at 2.9%.

If all three Dodge & Cox holdings are worth the full $15,000 — $45,000 in total — then a 2.9% share of that is $1,305.

Assuming, each holding is the minimum $1,000 — a total of $3,000 — then the 2.9% stake would equate to $87.



So he's got between $87 and $1,305 invested in Sanofi.  :shrug:




Yes I know that mutual funds don't make drugs. One of the stocks in the fund makes it. I was the first one here to report that he only had a small holding. At that time I also remarked, what kind of a supposed billionaire buys mutual fund shares at all. At the very least they're in hedge funds.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 2
    #26689088 - 05/22/20 10:36 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Trump is an arrogant know nothing who thinks the studies that have shown hydroxychloroquine to have worse results than no drug at all are run by democrats despite one of them being run by his own VA. He deserves to kill himself self prescribing drugs and the only reason I hope the HCQ doesn’t kill him is a fatal arrhythmia is painless and doesn’t give him any time to suffer and reflect on his mistakes. My hope is he contracts covid being a dumb fuck and infects the rest of the while house and his evil fucking supporters. Then I hope he spends a few weeks in a soft coma on a ventilator having the horrific hallucinations covid patients describe before his fat encrusted heart gives out and frees melania from her hostage situation.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
    #26689197 - 05/22/20 11:19 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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It’s a fucking immunosuppressant. It’s just bizarre anyone thought it was a good idea in the first place.





I don't find it bizarre that doctors think a drug used to treat autoimmune diseases might just help prevent/reduce the effects of a disease which seems to target those with an autoimmune disease, and they think in this desperate time of a global pandemic that studies should be done to learn more....but thats just me, and a decent chunk of the scientific community.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: mandrin13]
    #26689250 - 05/22/20 11:43 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Well theory has killed a lot of people

Now explain how an immunosuppressant is supposed to prevent infection in the first place


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26689258 - 05/22/20 11:49 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

No one knows how paracetamol works. That's a pretty tall order to explain especially at this stage. A shitload of drugs have no elucidated mechanism of action. Drugs with millions of man-hours of research already put in


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26689265 - 05/22/20 11:53 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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koods said:It’s an off patent drug that if someone could prove it was successful at treating a new condition would stand to make billions when they get a new patent for the drug. People are pushing this so hard because it would be a financial windfall unlike anything in the history of the world. Getting a patent for a drug that nobody owns to prevent a disease that everyone is in danger of getting. Unbelievable riches.





Yeah I am pretty sure that is not how it works with an expired patent, it will remain a generic drug.

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koods said:Now explain how an immunosuppressant is supposed to prevent infection in the first place




Sigh, a drug does not have to prevent infection to be beneficial.



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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26689269 - 05/22/20 11:54 PM (1 month, 19 days ago)

I think that there's just a bunch of trolls on the internet bitching and moaning trying to have an opinion and when it comes down to election time nobody's gonna give a shit. Its all a fascade and your opionion on the subject truly doesn't matter. You don't exist.

Someone explained it to me recently. People wild out online because its an outlet where they can type out all their extreme hatred they have inside them because they dont have the will to voice their opinions in the real world. Its all imaginary troll hype.

Sorry to derail the subject as for trump taking the hydroxy chloroquine. Whatevs let him do him..


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Ovoidhunter]
    #26689433 - 05/23/20 02:10 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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Yeah I am pretty sure that is not how it works with an expired patent, it will remain a generic drug.





You can patent drug treatments in the United States. You have no clue what you’re talking about do you?


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: mandrin13]
    #26689437 - 05/23/20 02:17 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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koods said:It’s an off patent drug that if someone could prove it was successful at treating a new condition would stand to make billions when they get a new patent for the drug. People are pushing this so hard because it would be a financial windfall unlike anything in the history of the world. Getting a patent for a drug that nobody owns to prevent a disease that everyone is in danger of getting. Unbelievable riches.





Yeah I am pretty sure that is not how it works with an expired patent, it will remain a generic drug.

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koods said:Now explain how an immunosuppressant is supposed to prevent infection in the first place




Sigh, a drug does not have to prevent infection to be beneficial.





That’s literally what prophylactic means. Jesus fucking Christ


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: mandrin13]
    #26689464 - 05/23/20 02:48 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

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koods said:It’s an off patent drug that if someone could prove it was successful at treating a new condition would stand to make billions when they get a new patent for the drug. People are pushing this so hard because it would be a financial windfall unlike anything in the history of the world. Getting a patent for a drug that nobody owns to prevent a disease that everyone is in danger of getting. Unbelievable riches.





Yeah I am pretty sure that is not how it works with an expired patent, it will remain a generic drug.

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koods said:Now explain how an immunosuppressant is supposed to prevent infection in the first place




Sigh, a drug does not have to prevent infection to be beneficial.





Preventing and effectively treating the infection both involve killing the virus. If it can't prevent it, why would anyone think it can effectively treat it? What would be beneficial about a drug that both suppresses your immune system and isnt effective in killing the virus?


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26689471 - 05/23/20 02:55 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

Also quinolones and fluoroquinolones are just plain dangerous to begin with. They damage DNA and fuck up your collagen production.


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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #26689570 - 05/23/20 04:39 AM (1 month, 19 days ago)

This is a truly disturbing video. A crowd of Karens attacking a man verbally and physically FOR WEARING A MASK. This country is so fucked. One of the Karens is hacking up a lung in the background

https://twitter.com/paulblume_fox9/status/1263970505482067968?s=21


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