Bigbadwooof said:

SirTripAlot said:

The most formidable part of Trump IMO, is that nothing sticks. Evreything seems to bounce off him like a marshmallow ,further, what makes it more  perplexing, is that most of it is not due to his superior intellect or deal making skills. Everyone will see it again in the next debates.

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The reason nothing sticks, is because Donald Trump counter punches like a pro (Trump appears with Bill Clinton accusers before debate), or just pretends it's fake news. He plays things off very well.

Being a pompous ass works very well for Trump. You know, Trump was raised, more than anything, to be someone's boss. To be a walking superiority complex who doesn't let shit slide. That has worked very well for him in this arena, and in reality tv.

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qman said:

Trump is a master of trolling and manipulating people, that's a skill that most people don't have in life.

Just because we don't like someone, it doesn't mean that person is stupid. There's plenty of people I hate, but I will admit they're highly intelligent in some cases.

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Enlil said:

I don't know much about trump.  I haven't really heard much about him in this campaign season.  I do know that he dominated in the Iowa caucus, however.

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Bigbadwooof said:

relic said:

Bigbadwooof said:

The way things are going, I'm probably going to have to hold my nose, and vote for Trump in the general election, in fact.

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Weird to see you write that.

You've laid out your reasoning and I get it while not agreeing with it, but it's just surreal to see you write that.

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It's surreal to be having to say that, but I will probably vote Republican, or not at all, until the Democratic party allows free and fair elections.

If we, the (forcible) spreaders of Democracy, throughout the world, have a 'Democratic' party, that actively works against the people's right to vote, what does that make America? It makes America a giant, murderous, steaming pile of corporate shit.

How many countries have we bludgeoned into 'freedom'? Where's our freedom to vote?

If we don't have democracy, we don't have anything at all.

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I totally get why you wrote it, man, and when you lay it out like this message it becomes more persuasive for sure.

Your original message just caught me off balance, I guess, and was one i didnt anticipate coming from you.

I understand why people (maybe you, BBW, maybe not, but certainly some others) think that not voting for the DNC's choice is 'sticking it to the democratic party and teaching them a lesson', but 4 more years of trump isn't enough to bring them to heel, IMO.  Perhaps 4 more of trump plus 8 more of pence would do it. 

qman said:

relic said:

Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

I'm with wooof on this.  The mainstream media made way too many of us believe Trump is an idiot, but at the end of the day the joke is on whomever believed it.  You don't become President of the US by being an idiot, and if you ignore the mainstream media sound bites and fake news about him, you'll realize he's an above average Republican president.

With that said, I can't stand Republican policy, so if the establishment successfully takes the election from Bernie, I'll vote for my own party (Green Party).

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The media didnt convince me trump is an idiot.  Not recently nor in the past did the media convince me.  Trump himself convinced me he is a liar, a cheat, a deadbeat, and an idiot more than 30 years ago, Fal.

Having said that he does have an ability to manipulate people to get what he wants.  He has an ability to tap into the emotions of a crowd when that crowd wears their emotions on their sleeves.  And he has an ability to connect with a certain kind of person with whom he has little to nothing in common and likely holds contempt for, while making them feel as though he gives half a shit for them.  Sometimes I even think he does give half a shit about them, but then I remember that he only cares about their adoration, not for them as people.

All things considered, he's a despicable person IMO and no, the media didnt make that assessment for me.

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All those attributes you listed are signs of intelligence. If everybody could do it, Trump wouldn't be in the position he's in today. Are those attributes that make Trump a moral and decent person? Not at all, but this isn't about being moral, it's about his intelligence.

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relic said:

I totally get why you wrote it, man, and when you lay it out like this message it becomes more persuasive for sure.

Your original message just caught me off balance, I guess, and was one i didnt anticipate coming from you.

I understand why people (maybe you, BBW, maybe not, but certainly some others) think that not voting for the DNC's choice is 'sticking it to the democratic party and teaching them a lesson', but 4 more years of trump isn't enough to bring them to heel, IMO.  Perhaps 4 more of trump plus 8 more of pence would do it. 

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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:

christopera said:

He's actually wrong.
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As it turns out, Trump sounds like retard when he talks about things he doesn't understand.

https://www.politico.com/story/2019/05/28/trump-aircraft-carriers-steam-1473984

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Your article says the Navy is hoping they get the new system to work.

Quote:

“It’s not a bad thing to try to go back to a cheaper method,” he said. “The Navy believes that over the 50-year life of the ship, it will be cheaper to operate the Ford class, but that’s unproven.”

While “Congress will continue to criticize the electromagnetic system alongside the president” because of cost overruns, Clark predicted, in the end lawmakers “will say what the Navy says, that this system is the future.”

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Maybe they'll fix the current problems if enough money is spent, but Trump seems to think we shouldn't risk so much to fix a system that isn't broke.

Whether or not they get the new system to work, Trump wasn't being an idiot for having the opinion that we shouldn't spend so much trying to get this to work.

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christopera said:

Did that mother fucker just say we have to protect the person who invented the wheel?

Fuck, the man is a retard. Hysterical clip!

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Bigbadwooof said:

christopera said:

Did that mother fucker just say we have to protect the person who invented the wheel?

Fuck, the man is a retard. Hysterical clip!

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He did, along time Thomas Edison, who was a piece of shit. We have to put Tesla in the textbooks, imo, and forget about Edison.

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christopera said:

By that measure we will have to revisit in 50 years to settle this.

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christopera said:

Trump doesn't understand the old system, or the new system. That's why he sounds so retarded when he talks about it.

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Tell us about your experience with catapult systems.    Trump probably got many briefings on this.

christopera said:

Did that mother fucker just say we have to protect the person who invented the wheel?

Fuck, the man is a retard. Hysterical clip!

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Enlil said:

Edison never went insane like tesla, however.

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