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koods
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specialpeopleclub said: He could have stopped corona virus definitively and people would still call him an idiot. We dont have the information or a good comparison to make to know if mitigation worked. .
He is an idiot, but you’re right, he could have stopped the virus from spreading like wildfire. Five weeks ago he said we had 15 cases and it was going down to near zero soon. Anyone with a brain knew that wasn’t what was going to happen. Except him. He’s an idiot and now we are all paying for it.
Of course mitigation worked. Infectious disease spreads exponentially. Without intervention it would take just a few months for nearly the entire population to be infected. We had all the information we needed to make proactive decisions to mitigate the virus. We had the advatage of being able to Learn lessons from other countries to help guide us to implement effective policies, and avoid the mistakes made elsewhere. But we didn’t have testing to nip this in the bud. We waited for Europe to Seed thousands of infections in the US before doing anything to stop it. We waited until people started dying to implement social distancing and locking down.
Anyone with a brain and eyes could see what was likely to happen by the end of January, and by the end of February, it was obvious we were headed for a major outbreak in the US. We didn’t do a fucking thing except ban travel from China. Trump didn’t lead on anything. He made no plans. He just kept telling us the virus was under control. It was the fucking NBA that had to wake the country up. trump only started to care when the stock market crashed.

Since trump wrote this tweet just 50 days ago, a half million people have been infected in the US, the stock market lost 25% of its value and 20 million Americans have lost their jobs.
It is literally impossible for Trump to have been more wrong about the situation .
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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods] 1
#26595742 - 04/12/20 01:01 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said: If you get health insurance at work and you get laid off, you lose your health insurance unless you pay for it out of pocket with cobra, which costs an average of $560 a month.
People who have been laid off could have been able to buy subsidized health insurance through Obamacare, but trump refused to implement emergency open enrollment.
Also, that extra $600 of unemployment insurance money was a democratic proposal that republicans held up the bill hoping to get it removed.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/nation/2020/03/26/coronavirus-sanders-unemployment-relief/%3foutputType=amp
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As the Senate made its final push late Wednesday toward passing a $2.2 trillion emergency relief package, four dissenting Republican lawmakers contested the plan to pay the lowest-wage workers more in relief than they would normally earn, citing concerns that the temporary payments would encourage people to leave their jobs. Those four GOP senators argued that an increase in unemployment payments of $600 for several months should not be given to the poorest Americans because it would exceed their paychecks.
Weren't the democrats blocking trump bucks since day one?


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This is headline news from CNN this morning:

The piece is not reporting on what has happened. It is not reporting on what is happening. It is selling positive news as a problem based on a mind reading speculation over what Trump might do. It is a fear-mongering piece of trash journalism whose objective is reporting not the facts but the author's disdain of Trump dressed up as "analysis". Even the sub-title is pathetically misleading - the opening of the economy is also advocated by experts (economists in this case).
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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue] 1
#26596746 - 04/12/20 09:25 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: Do you know why it's mostly young people that wanted Bernie? It's because they haven't earned anything yet on their own and want everything to be taken care of.
Source, or make believe?
The reason people like Bernie is because he wants to give us some of the things our parents had - nearly free public college, affordable healthcare, a higher real minimum wage, etc.
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Shenmue said: You can't expect other people to pay for all of your shit.
No, they don't expect other people to pay 'for all of your shit'. Maybe just some of the basics. There was a time when rich people helped pay for those things before Reagan substantially reduced their tax rate, and then Trump took it a step further and reduced taxes of the billionaires below that of the bottom 50%.
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Shenmue said: People need to get this idea out of their head that college is the only way to make good money. Just my opinion..
Actually, real world statistics needs to get that idea out of their head, but the real world doesn't support your opinion:

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Shenmue said: I'm perfectly fine with universal healthcare but when someone starts ranting about free college and free rent it pisses me off lol.
Again, it's only public college, and it used to be nearly free when we had higher tax rates on billionaires. Life was better back then.
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Shenmue said: After free college and rent they'll start complaining about how they shouldn't have to pay for car payments lol.
No they won't. Maybe better public transportation at best.
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Shenmue
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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Shenmue said: Do you know why it's mostly young people that wanted Bernie? It's because they haven't earned anything yet on their own and want everything to be taken care of.
Source, or make believe?
The reason people like Bernie is because he wants to give us some of the things our parents had - nearly free public college, affordable healthcare, a higher real minimum wage, etc.
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Shenmue said: You can't expect other people to pay for all of your shit.
No, they don't expect other people to pay 'for all of your shit'. Maybe just some of the basics. There was a time when rich people helped pay for those things before Reagan substantially reduced their tax rate, and then Trump took it a step further and reduced taxes of the billionaires below that of the bottom 50%.
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Shenmue said: People need to get this idea out of their head that college is the only way to make good money. Just my opinion..
Actually, real world statistics needs to get that idea out of their head, but the real world doesn't support your opinion:

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Shenmue said: I'm perfectly fine with universal healthcare but when someone starts ranting about free college and free rent it pisses me off lol.
Again, it's only public college, and it used to be nearly free when we had higher tax rates on billionaires. Life was better back then.
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Shenmue said: After free college and rent they'll start complaining about how they shouldn't have to pay for car payments lol.
No they won't. Maybe better public transportation at best.
If you think college is the ONLY way to make good money then you're a idiot. That was a stupid response lmao. You sure showed me !!
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Who cares if they objected to the ban. Who cares when they declared it a pandemic. The WHO doesn’t make policy for the US and the word pandemic is irrelevant to the situation. We all knew what was going on weeks earlier.
The Who didn’t say anything. They simply reported information they were receiving from the field. There were reports of human to human transmission, and also that there was no clear evidence. Their job is to get information out. This is how science works.
Regardless within days everyone include the Chinese central government was warning the world it was contagious. It’s also worth pointing out that the a vast majority of our index cases were European, and had nothing to do with what was happening in China in January but what was happening in Europe in February.

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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#26608876 - 04/17/20 07:17 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: relic]
#26609168 - 04/17/20 09:28 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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First and certainly foremost, Trump loves himself. Beyond his self-love, it's safe to say he loves his oldest daughter. Long ago he even confessed, in a very public way, to loving her in a creepy-as-fuck way.* By her early 20's it was too obvious that not only would he fuck Ivanka if she wasnt his daughter, he had probably already fantasized about it by then
Well i dont think he loves " us all, i perceive that he is a patriot. The fact people on the left use this rhetoric as a retort makes me think you dont want to convince anyone.
Why would you bother to break your rule then post something so pointless?

We arent going to defund the world health organisation. Theyll remove people in charge.
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First and certainly foremost, Trump loves himself. Beyond his self-love, it's safe to say he loves his oldest daughter. Long ago he even confessed, in a very public way, to loving her in a creepy-as-fuck way.* By her early 20's it was too obvious that not only would he fuck Ivanka if she wasnt his daughter, he had probably already fantasized about it by then
Well i dont think he loves " us all, i perceive that he is a patriot. The fact people on the left use this rhetoric as a retort makes me think you dont want to convince anyone.
Why would you bother to break your rule then post something so pointless?

We arent going to defund the world health organisation. Theyll remove people in charge.
Oh really so are you prepared to say if Trump does actuallly defund the WHO you'd speak out against it? For people that still can't see the incompetence and lack of leadership you're not willing to be convinced. Of course I stopped trying to convince always trumpers that what makes theme always trumpers
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specialpeopleclub said:
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First and certainly foremost, Trump loves himself. Beyond his self-love, it's safe to say he loves his oldest daughter. Long ago he even confessed, in a very public way, to loving her in a creepy-as-fuck way.* By her early 20's it was too obvious that not only would he fuck Ivanka if she wasnt his daughter, he had probably already fantasized about it by then
Well i dont think he loves " us all, i perceive that he is a patriot. The fact people on the left use this rhetoric as a retort makes me think you dont want to convince anyone.
Why would you bother to break your rule then post something so pointless?

We arent going to defund the world health organisation. Theyll remove people in charge.
A patriot? Another draft dodging chickenshit. We have had only one President in the real military since Jimmy Carter, But Trump and W turned avoiding service into an art form.
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I didnt say 'in the military'
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Other people see good qualities in him. You can have that opinion. Having that opinion shows how biased you are.
When i see him talk now compared to pre corona, he looks distressed. Unless someone is a total retard, they saw he was at least a happy person.
You can choose to ignore someones humanity. When he does something deserving ill do the same. Hes kept us out of war, and dems want the establishment back because any uncertainty makes them deranged.
Im deranged too! Crazy people stick out! Not everyone is equally normal! You see trip pants, you run!!


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specialpeopleclub said: Anna anna anna Nicole, your so bodacious
Trump agrees. 

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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: relic] 1
#26611364 - 04/18/20 07:35 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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I didn't name her. My wife did.
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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#26614035 - 04/19/20 10:47 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Who would do a better job as rebuilding the economy after the virus problem, trump or Biden? My money is on trump. Fixing are economy is going to be the most important issue after this shit clears up. Joe Biden is more worried about are AR-14's lmao.
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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Shenmue]
#26614101 - 04/19/20 11:41 PM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Shenmue said: Who would do a better job as rebuilding the economy after the virus problem, trump or Biden? My money is on trump. Fixing are economy is going to be the most important issue after this shit clears up. Joe Biden is more worried about are AR-14's lmao.

Who even cares what some semi-coherent dumbfuck in washington thinks enough to even spend time to create this kind of thing, they seem equally petty and stupid
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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
#26614658 - 04/20/20 08:39 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#26614805 - 04/20/20 09:41 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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Not all Trump supporters are Nazis ...
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MagicMush123
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Psilynut2 said: Not all Trump supporters are Nazis ...

He's a nazi? Ironically, hes probably old enough to have fought real nazis in dubya dubya 2
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Re: PLUMP 2020 [Re: koods] 2
#26615151 - 04/20/20 11:55 AM (3 years, 9 months ago) |
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koods said:


Now what exactly what is that guy up to, Koods?
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