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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26304358 - 11/07/19 07:50 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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First of all, no one thinks for me



I don’t think there is anyone that posts in these forums that has been so manipulated by propaganda as you have


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26304424 - 11/07/19 08:26 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Yeah that’s politics. It’s not pretty. The real world sucks.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26304477 - 11/07/19 08:48 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Obama is as clean as you get in politics. Maybe you should avoid the topic of politics altogether if you can’t handle being a grown up living in a grown up world

If youre looking for perfect people you should probably hop on the next SpaceX rocket becasue they don’t exist on this planet


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
    #26304484 - 11/07/19 08:53 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Idealism always ends in disappointment. Pragmatism is the wave of the future


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
    #26304512 - 11/07/19 09:08 AM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Idealism is the fastest route to cynicism


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #26305442 - 11/07/19 03:29 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

This story is devastating to the trump defense. It describes what was happening within the Ukrainian government.

There were explicit demands made upon the Ukrainian President, he was told he would not get aid unless he made a public announcement of an investigation into Biden and crowdstrike, and he had scheduled an interview in CNN to announce the investigations.  Four before the interview, the whistleblower complaint was made public, then the aid was released and zelensky canceled the announcement.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.nytimes.com/2019/11/07/world/europe/ukraine-trump-zelensky.amp.html


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26305452 - 11/07/19 03:31 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

trump has been orderd to pay $2 million in compensation and penalties for self dealing and illegal use of his charity.

In the Roger Stone trial, the prosecution alleges Stone lied  about his conversations with Trump and Wikileaks, with a further implication that Trump lied under oath to Mueller.


Bad day in Trumpville


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26305468 - 11/07/19 03:39 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Come on. If Bernie is president he’s gonna do things that you don’t like. he will make decisions that get people killed. He will have to choose  between the lesser of two evils.

Obama and sanders are both fundamentally decent and honest men


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #26305481 - 11/07/19 03:46 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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"Pelosi: Midwest Voters Too Dumb To Vote Correctly"






Complete bullsht. The titles on these videos you are parroting have no basis in realty. Pelosi said voters in the Midwest have different concerns than voters in my district. Nothing about them being stupid. This post is a lie.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26305493 - 11/07/19 03:50 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

And falcon wonders why I take issue with Jimmy Dore. The title of his video is an outright lie.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26305605 - 11/07/19 04:36 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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That’s what the subtext is though.




That midwesterners are too dumb vote correctly?  Bullshit. You know that headline is a lie. Don’t be corrupted by your opinion about Pelosi or Medicare for all.

Anyone who sees that headline without watching or watching carefully, is likely to think that Pelosi said that words. It’s borderline libelous.

And a headline like that would get a real journalist fired on the spot.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #26305620 - 11/07/19 04:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Look you’re doing the exact same thing. The idea of quotations in journalism means something. Quoting means you are repeating the words that person spoke as spoken. Your tactics are fucking garbage


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26305625 - 11/07/19 04:45 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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the idea that they are too dumb is bullshit, yes.

The idea that Pelosi and others are deploying this narrative to depress the progressive agenda is not.

We literally have polling and election results that prove a progressive agenda can win in the Midwest. So is Pelosi just too stupid to know that? Or is she deliberately misleading the public to temper their support of policies that would harm Pelosi’s donors? Which do you think is more likely the case?




Fine I’m not taking issue with the opinions of even the bat shit host. I’m taking about implying in the tittle of the video that Pelosi said midwesterners were stupid


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26305641 - 11/07/19 04:49 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

“Those liberal ideas that fire up the parties base are a big loser when it comes to beating President Donald Trump”

Is not “Midwest Voters Too Dumb To Vote Correctly.”

Is not a paraphrase. It’s not a subtext. It’s certainly not a quote.

We have a lnither thread about media bias and you guys are defending libelous behavior by someone in the alternative media.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #26305648 - 11/07/19 04:53 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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koods said:
The idea of quotations in journalism means something. Quoting means you are repeating the words that person spoke as spoken. Your tactics are fucking garbage



I think I was clear that I was quoting a hypothetical conversation:

If someone said "we can't elect Trump because he colluded with Putin", Jimmy would respond, "well, we don't know that he did, but we can't elect Trump for a whole shitload of other reasons".



NO YOU DIDNT. Jesus Christ you are engaging in bald face gaslighting now.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
    #26305669 - 11/07/19 05:03 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

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He defends the right for the same reasons I sometimes do.  If someone said "we can't elect Trump because he colluded with Putin", Jimmy would respond, "well, we don't




  Sometimes ? I think you mean everyday .
If trump didn’t collude with Russia then why was his boy Stone threatening to kill a witness in the Russian  collusion investigation ? Seems like a really unnecessary thing to do when your innocent .

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You are a rat. A stoolie. You backstab your friends,” Stone wrote to one of his associates, former talk show host Randy Credico, in April 2018, adding later, “I am so ready. Let’s get it on. Prepare to die..




https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.washingtonpost.com/local/legal-issues/at-trial-roger-stone-claims-he-was-a-player-who-got-played/2019/11/07/dce51620-00de-11ea-9518-1e76abc088b6_story.html%3foutputType=amp




Roger stone is in deep fucking shit. They got the goods on him.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
    #26305677 - 11/07/19 05:06 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

The thuggery continues with stone. Right wing sites have outted a juror in the case, even after the judge warned against it. Alex Jones did it on air. Outright juror intimidation and tampering. It’s unbelievable the depths these people stoop to. These are serious federal crimes

Trump and some GOP politicians and right wing media are openly engaging in harassment and intimidation of the whistleblower. His anonymity is protected by law. Rand Paul retweeted an article that outed the whistleblower from his fucking senate account. They are openly violating the law everyday with this shit.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26305969 - 11/07/19 07:43 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Lying about what someone said is about as egregious an ethical lapse as you can get


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: meltdowner]
    #26306001 - 11/07/19 07:58 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

Donald Trump used his charity to pay for someone’s annual registration fee for the Boy Scouts. $7. No grift is too small.




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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #26306021 - 11/07/19 08:07 PM (4 years, 2 months ago)

But she’s not calling Midwesterners too stupid to vote correctly. People read that video title may not even watch the video. If you watch the video your brain is primed to interpret what she said that way. Come on, be honest if no one told you to think she was calling widwesterners stupid, you wouldn’t think that at all about what she said. You’d think she was doing exactly what she was doing, making the assessment that Medicare for all may not be as popular with the democratic base as it is along the coasts. She may be right. May be wrong. But she wasn’t calling them stupid. If she isn’t for Medicare for all herself, how can you say she thinks people who may not like the idea are stupid ?


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