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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27909928 - 08/19/22 04:29 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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The question was, were there classified information on that server. The server was mysteriously wiped clean, before that could be determined. In other words, Clinton destroyed the evidence of her crime, and due to the nature of our government, she was not prosecuted for doing so. She should have been. The whole thing was conveniently swept under the rug




    She covered up a crime that you can't even demonstrate a law prohibited ?
  Email wasn't this thing that existed for very long before she got the job . Only one Secretary of State  before her faced this issue and he did the exact same thing .
    Since you seem to be a law expert , could you please just point to the law that existed  at the time that she broke.  Should be easy .

It wasn't swept under a rug , I heard about it every day of her campaign . The only real scandal I saw was this bullshit story that wasn't interesting at all becoming  the main focus  somehow .




She broke the law and then erased her server to cover it up. It's a pretty big deal, no matter how inclined you might be to trivialize it.

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wiki - During her tenure as United States Secretary of State, Hillary Clinton drew controversy by using a private email server for official public communications rather than using official State Department email accounts maintained on federal servers. Clinton's server was found to hold over 100 emails containing classified information, including 65 emails deemed "Secret" and 22 deemed "Top Secret". An additional 2,093 emails not marked classified were retroactively designated confidential by the State Department.[1][2][3]

Some experts, officials, and members of Congress contended that Clinton's use of a private messaging system and a private server violated federal law, specifically 18 U.S. Code § 1924




I'm guessing you're the sort of person who believes there was no foul play with Epstein's "Suicide" either lol!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bandwagon] * 2
    #27909991 - 08/19/22 05:14 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Bernie was wrong. That was around the time I stopped donating to him.

Had a precedent been set then with Clinton, Trump would have a harder time weaseling his way out of trouble today.




Agreed. I supported Bernie to the bitter end, but I wish he had just stood back and allowed Clinton to go down for this. Shortly after, the firewall went down between Clinton and Bernie's campaign information, and they could see eachother's data. Bernie made this public, and condemned the members of his campaign who browsed Clinton's private information.

Clinton spun the whole thing against Bernie, and acted as though her campaign didn't snoop through Bernie's documents. They almost certainly did, and I highly suspect that Clinton was the reason the firewall went down in the first place. The company that set the firewall up was run by a former IT person on Clinton's campaign.

Honestly, she's just horrible.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bandwagon]
    #27910147 - 08/19/22 07:11 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Had there been repercussions, we could allow ourselves to forget. Now here we are, and it’s déjà vu all over again.




You know, I believe it was Falcon, or maybe ballz.. or someone.. mentioned Clinton's emails in a discussion about Trump allegedly mishandling classified documents. I think Koods responded by saying that they weren't comparable, and essentially downplaying Clinton's email scandal. Both of these are roughly the exact same situation.

The sad thing is, when shit like this just goes away, without any legal recourse, people look back and assume no laws were broken, just like the discussion we are having right now.

The 2016 Democratic Primary was a total fucking shit show, and some of us will not soon forget everything that went down. It's wrong to expect us to.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bandwagon]
    #27910196 - 08/19/22 07:32 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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The urge to destroy is also a creative urge.
—Mikhail Bakunin




Who the fuck is Mikhail Bakunin?

The only thing I know about him is that he was wrong about something once lmao

Destroying is the opposite of creating.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
    #27910311 - 08/19/22 08:42 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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She wasn’t cleared of anything. She walked away unscathed. Just like Trump will.

*She was cleared. The data she erased was permanently lost and excused and we were told to move on. Not good enough




She was cleared of any criminal acts. That’s just the way it went down. Why does it matter? What happened to Clinton is irrelevant. Either Trump broke the law or he didn’t.

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The data she erased was permanently lost



Says who. It was an email server. There’s at least two copies for each email. One on the recipients server and one on the senders.




She wasn't "cleared". Charges were never brought, and they should have been. Clinton DID break the law. That's a plain fact. We all know what she did, and the law, even at that time, was quite clear. She even wiped her server, after it was requested by law enforcement. Clearly illegal.

What happened in 2016 was a miscarriage of justice.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil] * 1
    #27910472 - 08/19/22 10:38 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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I'm guessing you're the sort of person who believes there was no foul play with Epstein's "Suicide" either lol!





 

    When you think about  how prevalent suicides are in prison and then when you consider the fact that hanging is the most common method , no probably not .  Is there any evidence that foul play occurred ?




Suicides don't happen when a person is on suicide watch after supposedly attempting suicide.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #27910497 - 08/19/22 11:01 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Of course they do.




Not really, no.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #27910901 - 08/20/22 08:33 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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My guess has always been that Epstein wasn't murdered, but was criminally allowed to commit suicide for his and a lot of other people's benefit. He may have been murdered. There's no way it was simple negligence.




Could be. I wonder if the guards still have their jobs. Would they trade their job so Epstein could kill himself?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2]
    #27910972 - 08/20/22 09:25 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Suicides don't happen when a person is on suicide watch after supposedly attempting suicide.




  Ya it does , happened with Aaron Hernandez .
  There's no uniformed standard for how they perform the watches , every jail does it differently .




Wasn't Epstein in a maximum security prison? The standard where he was held was 24/hour watch. Usually they put you in some sort of paper gown or something, and don't allow anything that could be used to commit suicide in the room.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
    #27911029 - 08/20/22 10:03 AM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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My guess has always been that Epstein wasn't murdered, but was criminally allowed to commit suicide for his and a lot of other people's benefit. He may have been murdered. There's no way it was simple negligence.




Could be. I wonder if the guards still have their jobs. Would they trade their job so Epstein could kill himself?




The guards were prosecuted for falsifying their logs




I can't discuss this any further. The powers-that-be Literally  Hitler have deemed it so. However, thanks for that. Good to know. It fits very well into my plotline.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Bandwagon]
    #27911365 - 08/20/22 01:53 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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That’s a fucked up church




Fucked up church? It's the "FIRST Church of God". In other words, they were Christian before it was cool.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Enlil]
    #27911700 - 08/20/22 06:37 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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It’s not unreasonable at all to think that he could have been offed while in prison, but we’ll likely never know wether or not it was due to foul play.



It's not unreasonable to think about alien life.  It's unreasonable to presume it has visited earth.  It's unreasonable to conclude that epstein was murdered.




Did you know that sometimes you do this thing where you go from being a solid and level headed poster - to then suddenly becoming downright naive and retarded?  Tell me how that works.  What causes it?

:strokebeard:



If you were talking about any member of this site other than me, I would have banned you for this post.  Please keep the flaming out of this forum.




Ad hominems aside...

You are wrong, on both accounts.

I dunno if scientific documentaries about science are your thing, but if they are, boy have I got something for you! :ancientaliens:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: donwats]
    #27919783 - 08/26/22 01:22 PM (1 year, 5 months ago)

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Swing and a miss

The nuke codes change every day. That’s a dumb conspiracy theory. I’ve noticed you have a habit of repeating the dumbest shit you can find on the internet




No you don't say? really? They change the codes?
:laugh2::rofl2::laugh2::rofl2:




Y+B, Up, Down, L1+R1 and do a backflip.

It's been the same for the past 17.5 years.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Lynnch] * 1
    #27920471 - 08/26/22 10:42 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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The deep state might be described as unelected/unaccountable actors, both within the government, as well as corporate and  wealthy figures, that wield power and  influence. We were told trump was a billionaire, therefore, he is a part of the deep state.




I can see where you would consider the leaders of industry to be part of the "deep state", but I don't place them under that definition, personally. Maybe I'm wrong to think this way, but I consider the Deep state to be more FBI, CIA, Military, etc...

And Hillary Clinton (Cuz she's unelected bahaahahahhahaaaa)


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Blind Ass] * 1
    #27920488 - 08/26/22 10:58 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Any who thinks Trump’s some kind of a good guy savior hero - has got another thing coming.




Both Trump and George W Bush are fucking cartoon characters, honestly. Like... If you put Daffy Duck in the White House... Things would have been exactly the same.

I can just see Daffy Duck spitting the word "Alternative Facts" in America's face.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: donwats] * 3
    #27920519 - 08/26/22 11:38 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Both Trump and George W Bush are fucking cartoon characters, honestly. Like... If you put Daffy Duck in the White House... Things would have been exactly the same.

I can just see Daffy Duck spitting the word "Alternative Facts" in America's face.




The gloves didn't really come off against Trump until he started outing the Bush administration over Iraq.

If you brain functioned correctly and you cared to pay attention you might already know that.





Calm down there, Fido... This is the best brain I ever had. It functions like a well oiled digital computer. I was playing 5 Dimensional chess, back when you were sniffing Trump's diapers.

As for that other nonsense you wrote... well.. The genius in my head has deduced through it's deep wisdom and mathematical skills that this is the only and accuratest response that a sane person (like me), could possibly offer:

:carlinorgasm:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #27921061 - 08/27/22 11:16 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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My point was, is, and always has been, that forced speech is the most egregious infringement on the freedom of speech, and that requiring private companies to publish speech it disagrees with is forced speech.



What if the FBI asks you to censor speech?

Did anyone catch the Joe Rogan interview with Mark Zuckerberg?  Here's a Sky News summary:




That's it... Time to go get me a nail gun.

Justice comes swift, like an owl in the night. It's gavel is a sledgehammer, which strikes like lightning, and booms like thunder. A storm is brewing. A justice storm.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #27921651 - 08/27/22 06:14 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Personally I don’t give a shit if Exxon is buying ads to influence me or if another country does it. Nobody seems to gives a shit about AIPAC going directly after progressive democrats in primary elections, spending millions of dollars to tilt elections away from people who aren’t adequately pro-Israel.




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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 1
    #27921957 - 08/28/22 12:05 AM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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He won’t answer the question directly because even he is too embarrassed to actually try to convince us that a meme showing Hillary shaking Osama Bin Laden hands is intended to make money and isn’t trying to influence voters.



That's exactly what I just said it's intended to do.  :wtf:




I don’t believe you are dumb enough to believe that.




If I were the sort of person who had an appetite for clickbait, that meme would certainly be enticing. If Russia were really serious about trying to influence our election, don't you think they would have put a bit more effort ($) into it?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #27922593 - 08/28/22 01:34 PM (1 year, 4 months ago)

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Meh. I have decided that evidence is "meh" because I feel like it. Just like you.




Boy you guys really make Falcon work lmao!

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So you haven't found anything new.  Didn't think so, as it would have been big news.




How does it feel to be right about everything and never be acknowledged?

Here's a gold star, brother! :mushroom2: Well.. kind of.


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