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SirTripAlot said: Pipedream....not only the muscles, but the size of those hands.
There did it for ya.
I like how he has 0.05% bodyfat, but still maintains his presidential jowls.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
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I wonder if they really will throw a former president in prison. I hate the idea of a multi-tiered justice system. It would be a great example to future political figures, to imprison someone for tampering with elections.
We live in a country where people have spent significant portions of their lives in prison for things like getting caught with a pot brownie, or obscene sentences for being caught with crack cocaine. That pales in comparison to the crimes Trump has allegedly committed.
I generally do not rejoice at the idea of someone going to prison, even if I don't like them... but maybe I suppose it would be something to celebrate, if Trump is found guilty, as a demonstration that nobody is above the law... to some extent.. even if that's often not the case.
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The Ecstatic said: “Family values” is just a euphemism for the 14 words, just like “tough on crime,” or “law and order.”
14 words? What are you referring to? I've never heard of that.
It has always seemed to me that Republican campaign speeches always seem like a competition to hit as many buzzwords, like "freedom" and "family values", in as short of time as they can, without ever saying anything of substance. Much moreso than Democrats.
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SirTripAlot said: Cheney, the Sith Lord is a libtard?, or we are libtards cause we don't like Trump?
The point I guess I'm making is that many of you do not understand the view of the right. Most likely because of your blinding hate for Trump.
Bush, Cheney, Romney etc are Rino's which is the same thing as a Libtard. They have controlled both parties for decades. They control the media, they control the FBI, they control most everything, they own controlling interest in most industries. etc etc.....
What you're referring to is "Neocons" and "Neoliberals", or "centrists", "corporatists", "the ruling elite". You have identified a problem that we are all aware of in American politics, but you have misidentified the culprit.
I honestly don't think most Republicans would disagree with many left wing ideals, if they understood the true perspective of real lefties, as opposed to the strawman. We on the left support democratization of the workplace, government programs that facilitate and encourage the creation of Mondragon-like worker cooperatives, and German style worker councils. Our priorities are both economic and social, but I think anyone who is serious can plainly see that accomplishing our economic goals will have a downstream effect of accomplishing our social goals, as financial equality leads to other forms of equality.
We do not believe in authoritarian enforcement of our ideals, as that has been shown not to work throughout the world. We support empowerment of workers. Change happens from the bottom up.
Getting wrapped up in political figures and all of their scandals, distracts the people from what we ought to be focusing on. No president, senator, or representative is going to empower the people. It's just not human nature.
So no, I don't want to see Trump hung, as I said in an earlier post. I don't really care, honestly. He is a symptom of a disease. He is not the cause.
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donwats said: Its not about political ideology anymore. My entire family has been life long democrats up until recently.
They let fentanyl pour right into our country. They intentionally divide and turn American against each other. They are bankrupting us and attempting to take away 2nd amendment rights. The border, ending our energy independence, the Jabs, psych meds, puberty blockers. Throwing patriots out of the military, the zombie heard's of immigrants.. They cant even teach kids the basic abc's anymore.
This has become more war like then political ideology. I can't go to the grocery store without running into someone who I haven't see in years saying the same shit that im saying. Its right outside your window about to kick your door down at this point.
It certainly does seem that way.
I don't call myself a "Democrat", so I won't defend them, but I do consider myself left wing. When you identify as a Democrat, or a Republican, in our current political climate, it is an endorsement of the divisive sort of tribalism you're talking about. When you flame against 'libtards', and designate fellow citizens as your enemy, you lose sight of the real enemy.
Ideology is important. That is why you should vote based on the issues, and not party affiliation. There are good people on both sides. I used to hate Republicans. I used to get so angry with them, and eventually I realized that that was not the answer. In fact, in many ways, that is the source of the problem.
When Hillary Clinton was nominated by the Democratic party, I refused to vote. I will vote for an inspiring candidate. A candidate who I feel endorses causes and views that I share. I would vote for a Republican who endorsed democratization of the workplace, a government that promoted worker cooperatives, and German style worker councils to keep corporate America in check.
Much of the corruption in Washington is because big business controls Washington, and politicians benefit from their relationships with corporate America in many ways, including personal financial gain. If workers controlled those businesses, and how they conducted themselves politically, I believe it would reduce corruption significantly.
By the way, I don't think anyone here supports puberty blockers lol... Maybe I'm wrong.
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Psilynut2 said: Wether you voted for Hillary or Bernie you were voting for the same party . You could of had 80% of what you wanted but you chose to make the whole thing about a single man who promised you shit he never could have delivered and you got nothing Bernie or bust gave you nothing . Some Bernie supporters are just as gullible and fanatical as Trump supporters IMO .
I strongly disagree. Hillary would have given me nothing I want, only corporate welfare. Bernie at least gave the appearance that he was for the people and would push for things like Medicare for All.

I was Bernie or bust, because I refuse to take part of a rigged election. The Democratic primary was downright DIRTY, and I won't have any part of it. I don't want to take part in a candidate winning, even if on paper they supposedly share many of my values, if the foundation of their candidacy is illegitimate. I don't date girls who lie and cheat, and I'm sure as fuck not voting for politicians who do.
Call me naive, call me... whatever you like, I feel that my position is one of integrity. My position demands integrity. Clinton may have won, if she had won the primary fair and square, and it wasn't blatantly rigged. You don't spit in the face of your constituents, and then expect them to vote for you.
Fuck Democrats. I probably won't be voting next election either. What have they given us now!?!?! BIDEN!?! 
*Puke*
And now I hear people talking shit about Tulsi Gabbard? Yall are nuts.
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I was Bernie or bust, because I refuse to take part of a rigged election. The Democratic primary was downright DIRTY, and I won't have any part of it.
We're the votes not counted accurately ? You know what's really sad about this ? Bernie had a really powerful influential voice in the party , it would have been really hard for establishment Democrats to just ignore his movement . He could have fought and pushed the Democratic Party towards the change you want, from his elevated position , but his momentum and influence died with Hillary's loss . You didn't just fuck Clinton , you fucked Bernie too . Bernie could have fought for you guys like Manchin and sinema , but you chose to have nothing . It's a good thing you guys possess enlightened intelligence and moral superiority . Y'all don't have much going on when it come to foresight and hindsight . Hate is kinda blinding though .
Maybe you weren't paying attention during the Democratic primary. Clinton was given questions prior to debates. She was given more time to speak during the debates. Special rules were made to prevent candidates from even speaking during the debates. Polling results were misrepresented on every single news outlet. Votes were literally not even counted in the buroughs of New York, and other places favorable to Bernie. They threatened to use Super Delegates to prevent Bernie from winning, even if he won the vote. DWS, head of the DNC was a clear conflict of interest, and threw her weight around as such, forcing her to step down eventually. I could go on.
This isn't about "enlightened intelligence" or superiority. I don't sit on some feigned high horse. This is literally about integrity. I won't vote for liars and cheats, and I honestly don't believe that such RAMPANT dishonesty can lead America ANY better than Donald FUCKING Trump.
And I'm right.
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This isn't about "enlightened intelligence" or superiority. I don't sit on some feigned high horse. This is literally about integrity. I won't vote for liars and cheats, and I honestly don't believe that such RAMPANT dishonesty can lead America ANY better than Donald FUCKING Trump.
Hillary beat Bernie by a larger margin than Barrack Obama beat her by . The will of the of the party was pretty obvious . The Democratic Party rules and state election laws actually hurt Clinton and benefited Sanders. Allot of Democratic caucuses and primaries permitted independents to vote, this was a huge benefit to Sanders .
I dunno if you're just scrambling to find a point, but none of those are adequate counterarguments. Of course Clinton beat Bernie in a rigged election, that's the point. Would she have beaten him if it weren't rigged? We will never know, but the circumstances were certainly in her favor.
If you want to act like her getting a copy of debate questions prior to the debate, for her to focus group and prepare her ingenuine answers, go ahead and keep your head in the sand. If it didn't matter, she wouldn't have done it.
Many districts weren't even counted, like what we saw in the buroughs of NY. The number of voting locations were reduced in areas favorable to Bernie to stifle the progressive vote... so.. who really gives a shit who got more votes? That's not an argument. That's like giving an Olympic swimmer a two lap head start and saying he beat Phelps. "He cheated"... "But he won!"... "But he cheated!" lol
A lot of people see it as being a sore loser, but that really isn't the case at all. Would Phelps be a sore loser for refusing to engage in a rigged match? It's fucking ridiculous.
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Hunger strikes have historically been quite effective. I abstain in protest. I'm not going to sit here and play pretend election, and in essence, condone corruption and a broken system. Clinton should not be rewarded for being a scheming, caniving, SHRILL Cunt!
Clinton would not have been a better president than Trump. In fact, we would be at war with Russia right this moment had she been president. I believe that wholeheartedly.
The only valid reason to vote for Clinton over Trump, was the open SCOTUS seat, and that was a quite compelling reason. As we now see, Roe v Wade has been overturned. Maybe that's the wakeup call America needs, I do not know. I couldn't hold my nose long enough to vote for that putrid stink. I just got out of jail, so balogna is the last thing I'll be eating... ever again.
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Bandwagon said: You’ve made a claim as well. Why is my claim the one that needs justification and your verification in order to be valid, while your claim is just inherently true and needs no further explanation?
You’ve mentioned no policies. Your posts have all been rants about Bernie supporters and Trump.

Trump 2024 enjoy
Honestly, I despise Trump. You know, back when Ron Paul ran, I was very young, and I find that Libertarian ideals are very appealing to the young and unaffiliated. I was certainly drawn to Ron Paul, because he had a core set of values that he did not deviate from. I respect that in a person. I respected that in Bernie.
All 3 of these candidates were "grass roots" candidates, and one of them became president. For all of the commotion/ranting and raving of Trump supporters, he was actually treated quite well by the powers that be. He was given more air time than any other candidate. The polling data was displayed accurately, etc.
The reason that Trump was the only grass roots candidate to make it to the White House is simple: He's a businessman. How can you get more corporatist than hiring corporate? The left and the right fight amongst themselves, and the more they continue to do so, the more they fail to realize that what they truly hate is corporate influence on politics. They hate Neocon/neolib, centrist politics that serve the oligarchs of America, and not the people.
The CARES act enriched the wealthiest in America far more than the measly little "stimulus" it provided average citizens. And for what? Because that is the goal of our corrupt, piece of shit federal government. That is the primary goal.
Now we are supposed to gawk at Trump getting arrested... What about Pelosi's insider trading? What about Clinton's email server? Trump is the source of the problems in Washington. Now we have our scapegoat. I mean... I just don't really give a shit.
Trump has done a lot of fucked up things, so I guess it's a good thing that he be arrested, but then arrest all the cunts in Washington who are brazenly breaking laws. I just saw a statistic that showed 35 Senators, whose investment portfolios perform better than hedge funds. If that isn't brazen corruption, what is? Why are so many senators so incredibly wealthy?
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I dunno if you're just scrambling to find a point, but none of those are adequate counterarguments. Of course Clinton beat Bernie in a rigged election, that's the point. Would she have beaten him if it weren't rigged? We will never know, but the circumstances were certainly in her favor.
If you want to act like her getting a copy of debate questions prior to the debate, for her to focus group and prepare her ingenuine answers, go ahead and keep your head in the sand. If it didn't matter, she wouldn't have done it.
You watched that shit ? I feel like most people minds were made up before that . Your saying that caused Bernie to lose by 3 million votes ? If the Dems ran their Primary with the with same rule system the Republicans use Hillary would have won much sooner and Sanders would have never been that relevant . Their rules drug out the process , which helped sanders allot .
I did watch many of the debates. As I said, it was important enough for Clinton to cheat. You are right that most people don't watch the debates, and if they do, they only watch one or two of them, however in this day and age, debates are chopped up into juicy, digestible soundbites, which the masses do readily consume. If Clinton hadn't prepared herself, and made some kind of gaff during the debates, it very well could have been her demise.
Let's not forget that Clinton broke the fucking law and was under investigation during the election. She should have been arrested, plain and simple. Bernie's biggest blunder was downplaying the significance of Clinton's lawlessness.
Is this important? No, Clinton receiving debate questions prior to the debates is small peanuts. I probably would have still voted for her, had this been the only instance of election rigging. It was the combination of many many many such things that lead me to the correct conclusion that she was unfit for the job.
You've conveniently glossed over many of my points, and I doubt your mind is likely to be swayed on this issue, so I suppose we will agree to disagree. My mind is made up. Yes, I watched the debates, and I followed everything very closely. I watched Clinton disenfranchise millions of male voters, calling them "Bernie Bros".
Losing to Donald Trump was an utterly preposterous proposition. How could anyone lose? It was a home fucking run. Clinton lost, because she was a worse candidate, plain and simple. It is to the humiliation of the whole country that this is the "best and brightest" our broken election system has to offer. War with Russia? or a Wall on the boarder... Those are your choices. I'll take the wall.
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Technically, there is no climate bill. I think Lynch was referring to the $300+ billion set aside on that Inflation Reduction bullshit.
Had Build Back Better passed, I may have a little more faith. But Biden was never very serious about that. No public condemnation of the two senate holdouts. It was a joke.
My strategy is to give conservatives everything they want. Let’s see how bad things can truly get when legislation is written entirely by the rich for the rich.
Exactly. Give conservatives all the rope they need to hang themselves. Another reason for Bernie or Bust. Overturning Roe v Wade will prove to be a disastrous move.
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Let's not forget that Clinton broke the fucking law and was under investigation during the election.
What law did she break ?
Were you there, or of age during the election? I'm not asking to be condescending. It was a pretty hot topic during that time.
Clinton was using a private server that was stored in her bathroom, for all of her emails, including classified information. It was not legal for her to do so. It is akin to Trump storing classified documents at Mar-a-lago, for which he is currently under investigation.
Clinton wiped the server before it could be used as evidence against her. She was never arrested. If you or I had done something like that, we would certainly be in prison.
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so you're suicidal. Self defeating. For fucks sake.
No, he's strategic. If corporatists are rigging the game, why play by their rules?
As I have said, give Republicans enough rope to hang themselves, while also telling Democrats you won't elect them if they do the kind of dirty underhanded shit we have witnessed in recent years, is a strategic way of getting what we really want.
Look at the rhetoric on the left now. It has dramatically shifted toward progressive values, if only in words.
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Lynnch said: No. It's a stupid strategy that puts fascists in power. You guys are getting played.
Clinton isn't a fascist? 
Why is it stupid? It's working. As I said, the rhetoric on the left has moved markedly left.
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Lynnch said: Why are you so hung up on Clinton, she hasn't been relevant for 6 years. Is Biden a fascist?
If this strategy worked, Bernie would have been elected in 2020. Dems have left positions because we elect progressives.
It's stupid because you guys have twisted yourselves into some knot thinking that the only way to move the country left is to move it to the right. It's nonsensical on its surface. You want to pretend that your sitting out and refusing to vote had some great effect on the country, when in the end, all you did was help trump win.
Hoooold on a minute. My panties have never been less bundled, regarding politics. You're either misunderstand our position, or you're blatantly misrepresenting it. People have a tendency to only view things in the short term. Trump was president, and the world goes on. The message couldn't have been more clear or potent, to Democrats, though. If you operate like Clinton, you will get what she got.
Democratic values have, at least in words, moved dramatically to the left, and that is a direct result of Sanders's campaign, and the demands of his supporters.
The point isn't to put Bernie in office. This is not a cult of personality, it's a fundamental ideology. I don't want the country to move to the right, but if that's what must be done, for bad ideas to be exposed as what they are, there is no fighting it. The pendulum will swing.
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Lynnch said: This is a little tricky, as I'm replying to two people at once, and you have slightly different positions. Homie was saying he's planning on voting for trump, as some kind of insane accelerationist move.
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Bigbadwooof said: I don't want the country to move to the right, but if that's what must be done, for bad ideas to be exposed as what they are, there is no fighting it. The pendulum will swing.
This is where we disagree. We must absolutely fight it. I don't know how much you've been paying attention, but it's not 2016 anymore. There is a point of power where the pendulum stops swinging. We came dangerously close to that point in 2020. The right wing is not having this discussion, they are planning for when they have complete control and no longer have to even consider the outcomes of elections..
I understand where you are coming from. I really do! It is terrifying to imagine an America, run by an unelected authoritarian regime. The fact that fear has become such a valuable currency in our politics is what is truly terrifying, to me. In my view, the country is already so heavily influenced by unelected oligarchic figures, that it doesn't really matter who is in office, unless that person is a progressive who endorses fundamental changes that would challenge them. What was the fundamental difference between Bush and Obama? The ways they governed were almost indistinguishable in many respects. Why?
The thing you're afraid will come to pass is, in some respects (not entirely, of course), something that I believe has already taken place. The solution will never be to vote for a corporatist centrist.
I do agree with you though. I did not vote for Trump, and I will not be doing so in the future, should he somehow manage to run again.
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Were you there, or of age during the election? I'm not asking to be condescending. It was a pretty hot topic during that time.
I was 38 , had a huge house , a new Tacoma and a 911. Ya I was a pretty serious adult , my credit score was over 800 , and I was pretty dam handsome too . I'm not saying that to sound superior , just want you to know I'm not a clown that sits around blaming the govt for their problems in life .
If remember correctly what she didn't actually violate the text of any law . If you want to explain how she did and name specific law I'm all ears .
She did break the law. It was illegal to store emails outside of the state department's email server. Her server was "mysteriously" wiped, when the government requested she turn it over. Do you remember?
I don't have a house, or a Tacoma, and my credit isn't quite that great, but I have a really big pecker, and I can piss like... A mile!
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donwats said: Small business and blue collar American did very well under Trump. We had energy independence, secure boarders, and our troops didn't have to fight pointless wars.
The whole system is now collapsing. I don't even understand how this even a debate.
Honestly, my only... ONLY problem with Trump over Clinton, is Kavanaugh. That is damage that can't be undone. In my view, Clinton would have done something equally disastrous, such as starting a war with Russia. In the end, I'd rather have less abortion than more war.
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Bigbadwooof
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She did break the law. It was illegal to store emails outside of the state department's email server. Her server was "mysteriously" wiped, when the government requested she turn it over. Do you remember?
Ya I removed the debate . What I don't remember is that being proven . So you came to that conclusion by studying the text of an applicable law or you heard it in the Jimmy Dore show ? How do you know that to be true ?
I don't believe it was controversial, whether or not Clinton stored her emails on a private server. The question was, were there classified information on that server. The server was mysteriously wiped clean, before that could be determined. In other words, Clinton destroyed the evidence of her crime, and due to the nature of our government, she was not prosecuted for doing so. She should have been. The whole thing was conveniently swept under the rug.
I do love Jimmy Dore, though! He gets a bad rap
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said: Jimmy Dore presents evidence to back his points up, rather than just giving random opinions. This makes the make believers here very angry with him.
The biggest thing that I didn't like that Jimmy Dore did, was spitting on Alex Jones. It was childish, and over the top, but everyone makes mistakes.
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