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OfflineSeriously_trippin
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Asante]
    #25870955 - 03/13/19 03:12 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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"Political Correctness" isn't even a thing.

If someone takes effort not to phrase things in a racist, sexist or homophobic manner, for whatever reason that person may have, he's being accused of "political correctness" like it is a bad thing to not want to offend minorities.

What kind of a fucking person takes offense at someone not wanting to offend minorities?

What kind of a fucking person takes offense at someone doing the decent thing?

Conservatives talk about not saying racist stuff like its an alien concept that is done for some inexplicable reason.

Could someone who doesnt say racist stuff, instead of "wanting to be politically correct", simply be decent or nonracist? Does it have to be a contrived motivation? If theres no racism in your heart there will be no racism on your lips.



For example though if you have the opinion that trans people are scientifically their birth sex even if they should have every right to identify the way the wish then it’s a matter of political correctness.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Seriously_trippin] * 3
    #25871174 - 03/13/19 08:20 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Paul Ryan says several Democrats can beat Trump and that the President will not win if the campaign is being defined as about him as opposed to his policies. First, Paul Ryan is an asshole, but still. When has Trump ever done anything that is not about him? Is it even possible? Second, his policies don't give him much to run on. The tax cuts are less popular after people have had time to evaluate them. He decimated his own stock market gains. Their is a fairly strong anti-immigration sentiment with the public, but Trump has lost a lot of ground outside his base, by trying to force the wall with government shutdowns. The whole rah rah Israel and Democrats are anti-Jewish doesn't play with the public, except fundamentalists, who like Trump, have no liking for Jews except that they control Jesus' hometown. 


I think people now know him too well to reelect him.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #25871293 - 03/13/19 10:20 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Paul Ryan says several Democrats can beat Trump and that the President will not win if the campaign is being defined as about him as opposed to his policies. First, Paul Ryan is an asshole, but still. When has Trump ever done anything that is not about him? Is it even possible? Second, his policies don't give him much to run on. The tax cuts are less popular after people have had time to evaluate them. He decimated his own stock market gains. Their is a fairly strong anti-immigration sentiment with the public, but Trump has lost a lot of ground outside his base, by trying to force the wall with government shutdowns. The whole rah rah Israel and Democrats are anti-Jewish doesn't play with the public, except fundamentalists, who like Trump, have no liking for Jews except that they control Jesus' hometown. 


I think people now know him too well to reelect him.




There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25871395 - 03/13/19 11:49 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Who would ever vote for a compulsive liar? Y’all are just funny to me.

Remember: compulsive lies, paying of mistresses on the campaign trail, barely any briefings, not holding a country accountable for the murder and dismemberment of an American resident, and all of the other nonsense that is the Trump administration

These will all be vile again as soon as a Democrat is at the helm.

And democrats are just simply too weak and ineffective to do anything of any value.

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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
    #25871404 - 03/13/19 11:54 AM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #25871417 - 03/13/19 12:01 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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qman said:
There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes




What do you think Bernie is going to do if he gets elected?  Even better question: what will congress allow him to do?

Nothing will change the status quo-nothing.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Citizen X]
    #25871432 - 03/13/19 12:08 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Who would ever vote for a compulsive liar? Y’all are just funny to me.

Remember: compulsive lies, paying of mistresses on the campaign trail, barely any briefings, not holding a country accountable for the murder and dismemberment of an American resident, and all of the other nonsense that is the Trump administration

These will all be vile again as soon as a Democrat is at the helm.

And democrats are just simply too weak and ineffective to do anything of any value.

IMO




Essentially, every member of Congress is a compulsive liar because they claim they represent the people, while in fact they represent their corporate sponsors. Do you know of any Congress members that even mention the word "lobbyists"?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03]
    #25871440 - 03/13/19 12:12 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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qman said:
There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes




"Sanders emphasized unity, patriotism and economic socialism"

Throw in some economic and social nationalism, and he wins hands down, but will he embrace that winning strategy?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #25871441 - 03/13/19 12:13 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Any of our pizzagate folks gonna talk about the sex trafficking ring centered around mar a lago


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25871460 - 03/13/19 12:20 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Who would ever vote for a compulsive liar? Y’all are just funny to me.

Remember: compulsive lies, paying of mistresses on the campaign trail, barely any briefings, not holding a country accountable for the murder and dismemberment of an American resident, and all of the other nonsense that is the Trump administration

These will all be vile again as soon as a Democrat is at the helm.

And democrats are just simply too weak and ineffective to do anything of any value.

IMO




Essentially, every member of Congress is a compulsive liar because they claim they represent the people, while in fact they represent their corporate sponsors. Do you know of any Congress members that even mention the word "lobbyists"?




I couldn’t have said that any better. You know the reality of it all. Why play along?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Citizen X]
    #25871477 - 03/13/19 12:31 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Citizen X said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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qman said:
There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes




What do you think Bernie is going to do if he gets elected?  Even better question: what will congress allow him to do?

Nothing will change the status quo-nothing.



Exactly. This is what most of the politics forum guys don't understand.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Citizen X]
    #25871507 - 03/13/19 12:42 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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qman said:
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Citizen X said:
Who would ever vote for a compulsive liar? Y’all are just funny to me.

Remember: compulsive lies, paying of mistresses on the campaign trail, barely any briefings, not holding a country accountable for the murder and dismemberment of an American resident, and all of the other nonsense that is the Trump administration

These will all be vile again as soon as a Democrat is at the helm.

And democrats are just simply too weak and ineffective to do anything of any value.

IMO




Essentially, every member of Congress is a compulsive liar because they claim they represent the people, while in fact they represent their corporate sponsors. Do you know of any Congress members that even mention the word "lobbyists"?




I couldn’t have said that any better. You know the reality of it all. Why play along?




I'm not sure what "Why play along" means?  I have been suggesting that driving to the voting booth isn't going to change anything in this environment. Real change comes from hitting the streets in a unified manner, the problem in the US is that we're not a unified group of citizens on almost any issue.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25871510 - 03/13/19 12:47 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Once that happens we’ll be a democracy and not a republic. That’s the thing I believe scares the establishment more than anything.

That’s why Washington is gridlocked because a United front means we come for them. But we argue and bicker just like them and that’s exactly how they want it.

That’s why I don’t participate anymore. I won’t allow myself to play their game.

Am I making any sense?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25871514 - 03/13/19 12:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Play along means voting, debating as if these things will have any effect


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton]
    #25871528 - 03/13/19 12:56 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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Citizen X said:
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Falcon91Wolvrn03 said:
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qman said:
There has to be a decent alternative, right now he would beat every D without much issue.



Fox says Bernie can do it:

Could Sanders beat Trump in 2020? Yes




What do you think Bernie is going to do if he gets elected?  Even better question: what will congress allow him to do?

Nothing will change the status quo-nothing.



Exactly. This is what most of the politics forum guys don't understand.



On the contrary every single major politician is subtly shaping the "status quo" and most people don't have the eyes to see it(;
Doesnt mean its in a way you care about, it's in a way they care about.

Take Dick Cheney as a good example.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: twighead]
    #25871536 - 03/13/19 01:03 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

The Dick Cheney’s are the status quo.

The way I see it better people have tried and they’re not here anymore.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Citizen X]
    #25871544 - 03/13/19 01:09 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

I can sum it up by saying the only real change will come is when we all stand together. If that’s even possible anymore?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Citizen X]
    #25871809 - 03/13/19 03:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Just cause it sucks, doesnt mean it isnt changing :awesome:

In a historical sense, things get worse before they get better... so the worse it gets, the better!


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: twighead] * 1
    #25871811 - 03/13/19 03:49 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

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On the contrary every single major politician is subtly shaping the "status quo" and most people don't have the eyes to see it(;
Doesnt mean its in a way you care about, it's in a way they care about.

Take Dick Cheney as a good example.



Everything changes all the time AFAIK. Burger flippers changes society. But let's look at this more pracitical.

Status quo to me is:



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #25871819 - 03/13/19 03:54 PM (1 year, 10 months ago)

Eh what's 50 or so years but a slice of pie! Things are always rebalancing, and shifting- and either people adapt, or the world makes them. Perhaps you don't live here? If you really are Estonian. But the ideology is very clearly different with under 40's here.. I don't think this pattern will survive the passing of the boomers


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