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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] 1
#26107001 - 07/14/19 01:01 AM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Trump sucks. I agree with a lot of his policies, but he sucks as a human being.
He's arrogant, selfish, egotistical, and childish. His ego is incredibly easily bruised, and when it is he inevitably attacks the person who hurt his ego no matter who it is or what they said (which is insanely childish and immature). He makes official policies based on who offends him rather than on anything intellectual or strategic. He never admits when he's blatantly wrong which is a classic sign of arrogance and stupidity. He viciously attacks good people from his own party just because they might have once disagreed with him. None of that shows real strength or power, it shows fear, a lack of power, and insecurity. His own cabinet is perpetually dysfunctional just because he can't get his shit together. He's probably one of the least mature people in politics today.
Having said that, I have no doubt he'll crush whoever he comes up against in the next election. He's wildly popular and as I mentioned even I support many of his actual policies. I just don't support him as a person. He's a shit human being, and I can't wait until he's out of office for good.
I wouldn't vote for him if he was the last man on earth.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#26107812 - 07/14/19 12:43 PM (4 years, 6 months ago) |
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Republicans have not always known that china is the greatest threat, Nixon was the one who established relations with china in the first place. And don't give me some BS about how that was good for America in the long run, we should have sanctioned the shit out of them and left them to rot like Cuba or North Korea.
Russia also does not have America's best interests in mind at all, far from it. A lot of things Russia does they do purely because they oppose American interests. I think China is more of a threat than Russia, but they're both enemies of America, make no mistake.
I wish Trump would raise tariffs on China even higher, maybe to 100% across all goods, and possibly including sanctions. Unfortunately all the democrats oppose policies like that which is one of many reasons why republicans are and have always been better at international politics than democrats.
Also Putin and Xi Xinping are both sissies with small dicks who can't stand to be insulted even on the internet (both countries have passed laws making it illegal to do so).
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Psilynut2 said: And concentration camps , fuck ya America .

Oh please, that's nothing compare to the concentration camps that are present today in China, or the concentration camps Russia once had. To compare them to nazi concentration camps is laughably naive.
Edit; Also, I was a bit harsh on Trump last night. The truth is that there are things about him that I like and things about him that I hate, and so it's hard for me to ever decide how I feel about him. Sometimes I feel like I could actually vote for him, but other times when I think about other stuff he's done or said, the people he's attacked, I'm so repulsed and sickened that I can't concieve of it. But then I look at his actual policies that I support and I'm like "these are good policies that none of the democrats will ever support " I would make this into its own post, but then that would be a double post when I could just edit this one.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#26211634 - 09/26/19 04:56 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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I think trump has about an 80% chance of being reelected. Biden seems like he's going to be the nominee which will alienate a lot of the base. He'll probably run a big fancy campaign that will look a lot like John Kerry, and lose in the end by a small but reasonable margin.
However, by the end of trump's 2nd term, his approval rating will be lower than bush's at the end of his which will doom republicans in 2024.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#26211685 - 09/26/19 05:14 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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Yeah, it's possible that she'll end up the nominee, I just don't like warren. I'll be sad personally if she's the nominee.
She never should have claimed to be native american, I can't just overlook that. It was a really disgusting thing she chose to do for a long time and benefited from, and it took pressure from the press and a lot of crazy bullshit to get her to change her position. No matter what she says or does, I can't just forget that whole routine. If she had come clean in the beginning and apologized, but no, it was just the opposite.
Even if she is the nominee, I don't think she'll do any better against trump than clinton did. I'd be vaguely happy to be wrong I guess, but again I just personally don't like warren.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
#26211743 - 09/26/19 05:29 PM (4 years, 4 months ago) |
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She never should have claimed to be native american
Her family believed they had Native American heritage and it was 40 years before DNA testing was available. Do you know how many people find out they don’t have the heritage they thought they had due to dna testing?
Yeah, it's very common, and I've even heard people in my own family repeat those kinds of myths. I just want someone better than that for the whitehouse.
At least Biden straight up said in the last debate that no one should be in jail for a nonviolent drug crime. That's a pretty awesome statement that none of the other candidates made. Biden sucks as a candidate, but I'd take him before warren.
I'd vote for warren if I have to, her politics and everything are fine, I just don't like her personally.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] 1
#26292418 - 11/01/19 04:13 PM (4 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trump is going to be remembered as the worst president of all time in the long run 
Hope everyone who voted for him enjoys that. Frankly, I almost look forward to a second term just so that I can watch his approval rating fall even lower than Bush's did at the end of his term. He's going to go out with boos, and no one is going to remember him positively in the long run.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#26415245 - 01/03/20 09:48 PM (4 years, 25 days ago) |
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I'm going to vote for bernie in the primary. He seems like the least bad of all the candidates.
If we go to war with Iran (or North Korea for that matter), I'll vote Trump though. Seriously. I know a lot of other people who would feel the same too. Unity is more important than politics during war.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
#26641983 - 05/01/20 06:50 PM (3 years, 8 months ago) |
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Let's go ahead and reelect trump. The next four years are going to be a complete unimaginable hell no matter what happens. I don't want that getting blamed on the democrats. So fuck it, trump 2020.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] 2
#27020519 - 11/03/20 11:38 PM (3 years, 2 months ago) |
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Trump won and I called it months back. 
I was also right about the polls being off, and I was probably even right by the specific amount that the polls were off.
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods] 1
#28235704 - 03/18/23 08:22 PM (10 months, 5 days ago) |
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I don't think people realize the connection between the economy tanking and everyone losing their jobs. Like sure, if you want to be unemployed and homeless, then totally root for an economic collapse I guess.
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: XUL]
#28255239 - 03/30/23 07:31 PM (9 months, 24 days ago) |
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Likely outcome is apparently a fine though, so this is a giant political circus that ultimately isn't going to amount to much.
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: koods]
#28380679 - 06/30/23 08:38 PM (6 months, 25 days ago) |
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The fact that he's still butthurt over Obama existing is pretty funny.
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Re: TRUMP 2024 [Re: XUL] 1
#28417899 - 08/02/23 09:18 PM (5 months, 23 days ago) |
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I wish we could ban anyone over 65 from running, that way we'd throw out both trump and biden.
The left has done an absolutely terrible job at marketing their ideas. Some of those ideas also legitimately suck, so there's that. On the other hand, some ideas on the right also legitimately suck, but they've done a fantastic job of marketing their ideas.
The problem on the left is that they think saying shit like "shut up and listen" and then shouting at you is a good way to persuade people. Often they don't even care or think about how to persuade people, and if someone like me comes along and is like "hey that's maybe not the best way to persuade people" or "that kind of messaging is going to drive people away" then we get treated like a monster. There's no strategy, they actually reject the idea of thinking strategically about how to persuade people. They just think that they're so right that they can do whatever and it's fine because they're in the right. It's just a massive failure of marketing and strategy on so many levels. Even if you're in the right you still have to think about how to persuade people, or you're going to drive people away.
Whereas on the right there is a lot of work that goes into finding out what the most effective ways to message and market their ideas are. They are very conscious about strategy and what can draw people in and how to draw them in. They focus hard on persuasion and converting people. They have whole conventions that talk at length about how to appeal to people and the best messaging and how to persuade.
Honestly, I had no problem with trump's actual policy decisions in office. But I have a huge problem with him trying to overturn the results of an election, lying about it, and repeatedly talking about how he'd like to stay on as president forever. That's just the most unamerican thing I can imagine.
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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] 1
#28627791 - 01/19/24 09:02 PM (8 days, 15 hours ago) |
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I give trump about a 60% chance of being elected so far.
In such a situation, internationally, that would be a win for Russia, a loss for China, a major loss for Iran, and probably not much change for North Korea. The likelihood of military strikes on countries like Iran would increase significantly.
He would be a lame duck internally and likely to face massive opposition in passing anything, other than budgets which would have no problem passing. He would increase the national debt through the easy budget passing, although he would attempt to cut funding for some departments anyway, like the FBI.
Although he might attempt to repeal the 22nd amendment which puts term limits on presidents, he's unlikely to succeed in doing so due to the high bar required for amending the constitution. As a result, he would be out of office permanently after 4 years.
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