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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton] * 4
    #25852292 - 03/04/19 02:57 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Even if all Bernie gets accomplished in 4 or 8 years is Medicare for all, I can hang my hat on that.

But he’s been very clear that it’s not about him, it’s about us (the working class). The movement that’s been built has institutional foundation now. People aren’t just going to get discouraged and go away if Bernie’s agenda is stonewalled.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: staytrippy420] * 3
    #25852783 - 03/04/19 06:42 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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staytrippy420 said:
How'd you guys let this dude get in the White House? smh




We are a very stupid people. Zero class consciousness and a public education system that glosses over basically everything poignant or useful.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25853721 - 03/05/19 07:51 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

They don’t think they were wrong though. They think everyone else is. Even in the face of this farcical administration.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25853769 - 03/05/19 08:24 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Define force feeding.
Define PC nonsense.

Nobody is chastising anyone for existing (unless you’re an illegal immigrant).


Your victim complex is laughable.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #25855815 - 03/06/19 08:06 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 4
    #25855869 - 03/06/19 08:27 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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qman said:
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The Ecstatic said:
The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.




You don't see the distinction between creating legislation and constantly lecturing people to stop being bigots without evidence?




lol without evidence. You just can’t accept that racism is a legitimate problem, I wonder why that is.


Either way, obviously there’s a difference between the CRA and public condemnation, you just happen to have a problem with both.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 3
    #25855887 - 03/06/19 08:39 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25855955 - 03/06/19 09:31 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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qman said:
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The Ecstatic said:
That’s a good try. Here’s what you got wrong:


- qman is wrong
- Democrats didn’t embrace idpol until 2016 when the race was between two straight rich white people? You liked idpol when it was Obama for 8 years? Lol
- Bernie is being more intersectional, yes, but it’s only helping his chances
- Bernie has a 10 times bigger chance to win now than in 2016




No, I'm not wrong, but continue pissing people off by accusing them of serious offenses without any evidence.

How did that nonsense work for the NFL last year?




What do you mean? Was the NFL accusing people of serious offenses without any evidence?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 3
    #25856053 - 03/06/19 10:48 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

lol did you miss the part where the NFLPA won concessions from the league? Or where they gave Kaepernick $60,000,000 for not proving in court that the owners colluded against him?

What planet do you live on?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 2
    #25856056 - 03/06/19 10:50 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

“Yeah keep it up leftists! Your brilliant plan of bringing awareness to social justice issues is causing billionaires to lose money. Even worse, it’s helping unionized labor!”

My god the horror.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera] * 1
    #25856136 - 03/06/19 11:52 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




lol no shit.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
    #25856451 - 03/06/19 03:27 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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qman said:
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The Ecstatic said:
“Yeah keep it up leftists! Your brilliant plan of bringing awareness to social justice issues is causing billionaires to lose money. Even worse, it’s helping unionized labor!”

My god the horror.




Or it pissed off the vast majority of people that watch, attend games and buy products from advertisers associated with the NFL.

The NFL players were pissing on their own wallets and were too stupid to recognize it until the very end. Money talks and bullshit walks.




Again: The players won this fight.

I could give a shit whether smooth brained morons boycott their favorite sport because (whatever dumbass reason).


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #25871441 - 03/13/19 10:13 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Any of our pizzagate folks gonna talk about the sex trafficking ring centered around mar a lago


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25876680 - 03/15/19 07:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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qman said:
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/jeb-bush-wants-a-republican-to-primary-trump/

How could Jeb become even a bigger loser, yet he just did.  :huxleyfacepalm:




Primarying Trump is a dumb political move at this point. The GOP’s base is mask off white nationalist now, rebuking Trump only hurts their chances.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones]
    #25880117 - 03/17/19 01:02 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

lol I forgot about webster


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 3
    #25972072 - 05/04/19 12:22 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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qman said:
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YangSupporter said:
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twighead said:
Females have a biological premise to be less aggressive than males, can you prove the same for different ethnicities?



Crime is related to economic circumstances and a lack of options.




Just in the US, right?  You do realize even the poorest US citizens are richer than 95% of the global population?  So this is just a relative economic issue, correct? 

What about poor females?  Still less than males with better economic outcomes.




Damn so maybe stop pissing your pants about the demise of western civilization then.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25972155 - 05/04/19 01:30 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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No, I'm not going to stop pointing out the obvious decline in the standard of living in the West despite the fact it's still multiples higher than the vast majority of the world.

My point is, if the US is so hard socially and economically on certain demographics, they're free to leave. How come instead of leaving, people of that same demographic are risking their lives to experience the same "hostile environment"?




Yeah we all get the point: How come blacks don’t just go back to Africa if America is so bad, and how come other minorities are still coming here if it’s so bad?

Extremely simple answer: Despite the institutional racism, mass incarceration, and concentration camps at the border, America is still preferential to genocide.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
    #25972250 - 05/04/19 02:23 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

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qman said:
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The Ecstatic said:
Quote:

qman said:

No, I'm not going to stop pointing out the obvious decline in the standard of living in the West despite the fact it's still multiples higher than the vast majority of the world.

My point is, if the US is so hard socially and economically on certain demographics, they're free to leave. How come instead of leaving, people of that same demographic are risking their lives to experience the same "hostile environment"?




Yeah we all get the point: How come blacks don’t just go back to Africa if America is so bad, and how come other minorities are still coming here if it’s so bad?

Extremely simple answer: Despite the institutional racism, mass incarceration, and concentration camps at the border, America is still preferential to genocide.




Or taking advantage of the generosity of a "racist" first world nation is preferable in many cases to the treatment from your own people in your own homeland.

I don't blame them, I would also attempt to seek a higher standard of living elsewhere, but that doesn't change the fact it lowers mine in the process.  There's no economic free lunch here, even Bernie acknowledges that reality.




“The treatment of your own people in your own homeland.”

So how come you don’t go back to Poland?


In the vast majority of cases, these people’s homelands have been devastated by, and/or at the behest of, America.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Psilynut2] * 5
    #25972261 - 05/04/19 02:26 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

The capitalist ruling class has been decimating the standard of living for the average US worker for half a century.

If I can’t blame immigrants, I’d have to face the sobering reality that capitalism won’t make me a millionaire.

So blame the strawberrry pickers it is.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
    #25972354 - 05/04/19 03:24 PM (4 years, 8 months ago)

It’s a negligible factor. Like lightning strikes, or shark attacks.


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