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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Asante]
    #25851455 - 03/04/19 08:57 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

It's a shame that reason wasn't enough. Instead we have to vote for the dumbass just to prove a point.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 2
    #25851558 - 03/04/19 10:10 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25851715 - 03/04/19 11:05 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.




Everything you just stated applies to every politician, including the "liberals" in the Democratic Party.




While I don't disagree, I also don't think it's that black and white. There are degrees of effectualness at play. One side definitively is less bad, and the other is more bad, neither are 100% good or bad. You just have to sort out the nonsense.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25853686 - 03/05/19 07:29 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, what exactly did qman mean by “politically correct backlash.”




As far as I can tell that’s code for people who want to say racist things but act as though they aren’t racist.

At most it’s a ridiculous over simplification of the truth. My Aunt and her family aren’t racists and don’t care about political correctness either way, but they voted Trump and did so because their insurance premiums were too high. Obviously Trump has done exactly nothing to fix that, in fact he’s probably made it worse, but that’s their reasoning. When you point out that Trump’s a retard and has no clue what he’s talking about they still defend him though. It’s hard for people to admit they were wrong I guess.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 3
    #25856061 - 03/06/19 10:54 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25856333 - 03/06/19 02:12 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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It was a movement excluding victims of police injustices based on their race, that's racial discrimination and that's why the movement ended up backfiring on the NFL players.

But by all means, I suggest the left to continue with all of this PC nonsense in the future and then wake up shocked when Trump is elected again.  :lol:




Why would anybody be surprised when racists vote for Trump again?




Racists and non-racists will vote for Trump again, just like they did for Bush, Clinton and Obama.

Objecting to PC policies hardly makes someone a racist, but I hope you already that know fact.




But youre ignoring the fact that many, likely most, of the most prominent and destructive racists and racist organizations love Trump. While those same also groups and people love to claim that political correctness is destroying the country. Coincidence? Not even close.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Thundermuscle75] * 2
    #25856444 - 03/06/19 03:22 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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You're playing the same stupid game XUL plays when he lumps everyone who opposes Trump in with the most ridiculous SJWs.




The only validity to your point is that staunch SJW's are basically the same crazies as staunch racists and staunch anti-PCs.

But I've lumped nobody, the data is pretty clear. We can admit that racism is in inherent in the system, we can admit that racism is bad, we can attempt to address these issues. But when it's painted as PC culture then all of a sudden it's bad. Doesn't make much sense.

On the other hand, when you argue that cultures should never assimilate or mix and that races should always be separate while also arguing that your tired of political correctness being rudely shoved down your throat you aren't fighting against PC culture. You are a racist who uses anti-PC as a veiled attempt to hide racism.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 2
    #25856450 - 03/06/19 03:26 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Are there racists that oppose PC?  Yes. Are there non-racists that oppose PC?  Yes.

Are there racists that support Trump?  Yes. Are there non-racists that support Trump?  Yes.

You're failing to establish any direct correlation and you're doing nothing other than making broad generalizations.




I never said anything that would counter those points.

The majority of racists are also anti-PC. Why? There are scholarly articles dating back to the 1980's on the matter, this is no surprise. And it's universal, it happens in Europe, Asia, Africa, everywhere. Those who are anti-PC almost without fail are racists.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton] * 2
    #25856458 - 03/06/19 03:34 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

There's no doubt that Trump won the election on the anti Dem train, and anti Hillary helped. Of course we shouldn't forget that Trump lost the popular vote, so there's that.

But Trump drew out the racists like we haven't see in ages. A vocal minority they surely are, but it doesn't mean they weren't empowered enough to do some murdering.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton] * 1
    #25856517 - 03/06/19 04:09 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Certainly, and that's my point. Just because you are anti-pc and don't consider yourself a racist doesn't mean you aren't saying racist shit. And when it comes to racism, if you say racist shit and mean it, even if you don't realize that you are saying racist shit, you are a racist.

I'm not necessarily pro PC, but I think it's played a necessary part in redefining how we apply race to language. I think we will find a middle ground at some point, but Trump being a retard drew out the retards at least in part due to his own lack of PC sensibilities.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 3
    #25858129 - 03/07/19 10:27 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Well said qmain.

This really highlights how the Democratic party never changed.




Aren't you usually spatting on about how you woke up and left the democrats when they became too PC and too hypocritical? Seems that would represent a change, eh? Which is it?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25858191 - 03/07/19 10:56 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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I have been saying that Dem philosophy is racists for a while. They can't have slaves anymore, so they use intellectual racism to smear those who disagree.




They're racist against intellectuals?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods] * 2
    #25867580 - 03/11/19 12:50 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Easy there, Donald President has got this on lock down.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Burke Dennings]
    #25867703 - 03/11/19 02:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

He did the same thing previously with the CEO of Lockheed. It was cringeworthy.

All he had to do was to own up to it, show a little humility. But you’re right, his people eat this shit up.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 2
    #25872030 - 03/13/19 03:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I think we will slowly move past the D versus R situation, and the corporate media control to a degree, as cable TV slowly phases out. I haven't had cable in something like 6 years and people younger than me, me in my mid 30's, are ditching cable and broadcast TV faster than ever. Of course there brings the need to think critically, especially so with internet derived news, but this has only brought to light the importance of thinking critical. A skill I see many young adults extremely adept at. This hate for millennial is more a thing of jealousy in my opinion than it is in sound critique of a generation. Sure millenials have gotten fucked in a lot of ways, but they are the smartest generation the U.S. has seen. They are just more adept to the modern age.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman] * 1
    #25872201 - 03/13/19 05:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Nah, they understand better than the rich and powerful give them credit for. It's ironic you believe otherwise. Many of them could care less about the paper they were given, instead they are ready for change. This why the Trumpsters are running scared, clutching their pearls, and voting for rich orange man. Change is a comin' and it's not drawn along the lines of color. Bernie is just the start.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25872252 - 03/13/19 05:41 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Says you, the guy who proclaimed Trump was doing the right stuff something like 6 months ago.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25872422 - 03/13/19 06:53 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

That doesn’t mean you weren’t a card carrying member.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: qman]
    #25872641 - 03/13/19 08:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I’m not even going to spend the time to find all of your posts advocating Trump. It’s a waste of my time.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Brian Jones] * 1
    #25873235 - 03/14/19 06:15 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

I think Trump is going to have a hard time standing on stage and debating with the amount of ammo there is against him. Sure he can lie and squirm but that can only last so long. Sarah Huckabee Slanders won't be there to protect him.

I stand by this, if the Dems fuck up their candidate selection, I will vote for Trump. I'd rather take congress than have a half-assed Dem President. This isn't to say that I believe Trump will do a better job than a bad Dem President, not even close, it's just he's such a moron that he'd push congress to a Democratic control. That I believe is a bigger advantage than a sitting president.


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