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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Asante] * 1
    #25851384 - 03/04/19 08:10 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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XUL said:
A guy who doesn't blindly accuse swaths of people he doesn't know.

:cookiemonster:





He said some choice things about Mexicans in general.




Yes, many of the illegals coming into the US from Mexico are criminals, so Trump was 100% correct on that statement.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Pinkerton] * 14
    #25851404 - 03/04/19 08:28 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

Trump has been a massive failure.

1. US trade deficits at all-time record highs.

2. US Federal deficits exploding higher.

3. Tax cuts only for corporations and the wealthy.

4. Growing wealth and income inequality.

5. Illegals still living and working in the US, no deportations.

6. Trump has called for an increase for legal immigration.

7. No infrastructure investment, he promised trillions, the end result is $0.

8. No manufacturing jobs coming back to the US, in fact many manufacturing jobs are still leaving the nation.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 1
    #25851473 - 03/04/19 09:08 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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What do you think income inequality means for the country? Tell me how you feel on the subject.




The growing wealth and income inequality destroys the fabric of the nation. This is what happens when big money takes over government. The ultimate goal of capitalists is to create debt slaves out of the peasants and thus far its been mission accomplished.

There is no turning around this ship in my opinion, there is no driving to a voting booth to fix it. As the debt in the system continues to grow, the worse it's going to get for the peasants.

The next goal is to cut off the peasants from the current social services, it's inevitable.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL] * 3
    #25851576 - 03/04/19 10:17 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)



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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25851581 - 03/04/19 10:19 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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The world looks at the first election of trump as a mistake. A second election they will lose all respect for the US. Not that we have a lot left. They middle of the country will fare even worse. The Democratic portions of the country are the economic engines and we are just going to write off the magaheads are worthless trash who are driving this country into the dump. Not that we don’t already think that.




Much of the world wouldn't respect Hillary being US President, so who cares what some of them might think?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25851591 - 03/04/19 10:22 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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The problem with Trump, beyond just a lack of qualifications, is that everything he says and does goes against your best interests. Ideologically you've been convinced to support politicians based on key persuading points, meanwhile their voting records conclusively benefit people that aren't you. It's not that hard to see, you have just chosen not to see it.




Everything you just stated applies to every politician, including the "liberals" in the Democratic Party.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25851610 - 03/04/19 10:35 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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How much of the population is unequal from each other, do you think?




https://www.forbes.com/sites/noahkirsch/2017/11/09/the-3-richest-americans-hold-more-wealth-than-bottom-50-of-country-study-finds/#2303a06e3cf8

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wealth_inequality_in_the_United_States

"Bottom 80% owning 7%...financial assets"




And what do you propose we do?

Second, would you turn this country socialist in order to solve wealth inequality?




Well, it's not by pure chance how we got here, it's deliberate. So do the opposite of the policies that got us here.

This power grab can't be done in the current political system, people don't just give away power and wealth to peasants driving to the voting booth. :lol:


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25852057 - 03/04/19 01:18 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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So you declare our case hopeless?

No way man.

What would you do to fix it if you could do anything?




Economic tariffs, stop immigration, infrastructure investment, reverse the tax cuts for the wealthy is just a start in my opinion. We have to remember that Trump promised all of those items on the campaign- yet nothing.

Obviously, Trump could never do those acts because it would cost The Elite trillions of dollars, so it wasn't ever going to happen.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Citizen X]
    #25852075 - 03/04/19 01:24 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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You cared what our neighbors and allies thought of us when BHO was president. What changed? :strokebeard:




I did?  I was more focused on the US President for the disadvantaged creating the largest wealth and income inequality in over 80 years to be concerned about how citizens in the EU thought about him.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Sulfurshelfsean]
    #25852084 - 03/04/19 01:27 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Exactly. I dont see how anyone thought a billionaire cheese puff like himself wasn't part of the elite...He used to chill with Hilary and Bill...What did people expect?




People are hoping for change through the voting booth, but that's not going to happen.

I can assure you the same disappointment and sorrow will come into play if a Bernie or AOC takes the Presidency, it really doesn't matter.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: staytrippy420] * 1
    #25852802 - 03/04/19 06:48 PM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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How'd you guys let this dude get in the White House? smh




Trump was the result of a politically correct backlash, the MSM refused to report the building resentment and of course it was a big surprise to everybody that lived in a bubble. Looking back at it, it was inevitable.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: koods]
    #25853753 - 03/05/19 08:11 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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How'd you guys let this dude get in the White House? smh




Trump was the result of a politically correct backlash, the MSM refused to report the building resentment and of course it was a big surprise to everybody that lived in a bubble. Looking back at it, it was inevitable.




So what you’re saying is trump got elected because white people agent allowed to say the n word anymore?




Nice strawman, the PC culture has infested into too many parts of US society and people are sick of it.  If they speak out about it, they're automatically labeled a racist, they are keeping their mouths shut and voting for people like Trump now. The same thing is occurring in the EU as well now.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: XUL]
    #25853761 - 03/05/19 08:14 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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So you declare our case hopeless?

No way man.

What would you do to fix it if you could do anything?




Economic tariffs, stop immigration, infrastructure investment, reverse the tax cuts for the wealthy is just a start in my opinion. We have to remember that Trump promised all of those items on the campaign- yet nothing.

Obviously, Trump could never do those acts because it would cost The Elite trillions of dollars, so it wasn't ever going to happen.




What tarrfs do you want?




Whatever level is takes to have a balance of trade in the US. If that means a -50% tariff on products, so be it.

The tariffs Trump established were obviously nothing more than a joke, anyone could tell it would make no difference at all.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: christopera]
    #25853765 - 03/05/19 08:19 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Well, what exactly did qman mean by “politically correct backlash.”




As far as I can tell that’s code for people who want to say racist things but act as though they aren’t racist.




No, it's more about being forced feed PC nonsense at school and in the labor market. Being told to stop being "racist/sexist" in those places just for existing is highly insulting, that's how good "cultural diversity training" works.

Also, having Obama lecture the white population on race relations every 5 minutes didn't help either, all it did was build up resentment.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic]
    #25853785 - 03/05/19 08:33 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Define force feeding.
Define PC nonsense.

Nobody is chastising anyone for existing (unless you’re an illegal immigrant).


Your victim complex is laughable.




Come on, every public school, university and large corporation is heavily focused on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities" because they are now mandated to do so by the government.

We both know the motives behind it and what demographic isn't included, but falls into the perpetrator role by default.

"your victim complex"

I'm offering you a very rational reason why Trump got elected. I'm trying to explain why so many moderates got Trump elected, this has nothing to do with me.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Asante]
    #25854154 - 03/05/19 11:45 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Being told to stop being "racist/sexist" in those places just for existing is highly insulting




Please wake up black tomorrow, so you can be entirely free of highly insulting experiences that come at you just for existing.




Apples and oranges, one is based on government mandates and the other is based on potential biases by the general public.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: ballsalsa]
    #25854162 - 03/05/19 11:48 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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ballsalsa said:
why can't fruit be compared?




Well, when someone suggests all things being equal, I'm going to point out the existing differences before the discussion goes any further.


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: Falcon91Wolvrn03] * 1
    #25855833 - 03/06/19 08:13 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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Come on, every public school, university and large corporation is heavily focused on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities" because they are now mandated to do so by the government.



So to you, not being allowed to discriminate means a heavy focus on "equality, diversity, inclusion, racial sensitivity, women and minorities"???




Is it possible to not discriminate based on race, sexuality, gender, religion, social-economic status and age without an institution falsely accusing you of already being some sort of bigot?

You do realize we already have laws on the books that prohibit discrimination based on the list above?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #25855837 - 03/06/19 08:15 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.




You don't see the distinction between creating legislation and constantly lecturing people to stop being bigots without evidence?


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Re: TRUMP 2020 [Re: The Ecstatic] * 1
    #25855907 - 03/06/19 08:54 AM (4 years, 10 months ago)

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The Civil Rights Act is forcefed pc nonsense.




You don't see the distinction between creating legislation and constantly lecturing people to stop being bigots without evidence?




lol without evidence. You just can’t accept that racism is a legitimate problem, I wonder why that is.


Either way, obviously there’s a difference between the CRA and public condemnation, you just happen to have a problem with both.




If you think lecturing decent people to stop acting like "bigots" without any evidence is an effective method to combat legitimate forms of bigotry, prepare yourself for potentially another 6 years of Trump.

There's already laws on the books, what else do you want?  :facepalm:


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