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Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction)
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It's been 2 years i've been drinking almost every day, so I bought ritalin to help me quit, it's been  8 days, so far i'm doing good, I find it gives me similar euphoria to the one I get from alcohol.

It really lift my mood, and I get a lot things done, i think i was drinking because i was depressed.

Edited by Heinrik (02/27/19 11:05 PM)

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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I've known a couple people that helped break addictions with water fasting. And if you did end up trying it, it'd probably also do your liver some good.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Eminence]
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I've been a long time addict of alcohol, sometimes drinking, sometimes not. Acid shook me out of it once for a few years, harmalas worked as well for a couple of years, plain old willpower for some other years.

Ritalin sounds pretty fun though, I could see myself easily swapping drugs of preference.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Northerner]
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Honestly I was drinking and doing drugs on a daily basis for years. Exercise is ultimately what led me to give up drinking and I felt twice as good, felt good for exercising and felt better not drinking. You get stuck in a loop drinking all the time and it's not good for your head or the liver. Its a crutch.

Oh and I smoked a shit ton of weed. That helped a lot too. I'd just light up if I felt like drinkin.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Uzziel]
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My vote goes to exercise and a balanced diet.

Start out with just walking 1-2h every day.

Walk to work/school if possible.

https://www.health.harvard.edu/staying-healthy/walking-your-steps-to-health


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Edited by korgoth (02/28/19 01:56 AM)

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik] * 1
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In my experience, swapping out one drug for another hardly ever works in the long run. Using Ritalin certainly is not a long term cure.
Exercise and good diets are great ways to make you feel better about yourself but what happens if you get a debilitating disease like RA or have joint replacements that limit physical activity....what then?

I am one that tried almost every conceivable way to keep drinking, not stop....Tried like crazy to control and justify it. People need to understand that alcoholism centers in the smarter part of our brains and we cannot out think it....It will inevitably win and justify picking up and taking a drink. I learned this the hard way like most drunks and eventually just had to surrender and say..."You won" to booze. You beat me. This is when I took AA seriously as a program to stop drinking/ and drugging and to stay stopped.

I know you guys want to balk at it and that's ok, I know I did for at least 10 years when people close to me, judges, lawyers, doctors insisted I go. But there will come a moment of clarity when you have to decide to either stay on the sinking ship or jump into a lifeboat.
I'm glad I finally gave in. Don't be afraid of it....AA is not a cult...it's a program for living with the disease of alcoholism without taking a drink a day at a time.
I still trip occasionally and see that as a tool that is under utilized and not mentioned much in AA...mushrooms are spiritual to me. In any case, I wish anybody that is alcoholic to find some peace and to be able to quit drinking whatever way they can.:peace::sunny:


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Thayendanegea]
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Speed > Alcohol. All day. Hell, DXM > alcohol.

But yeah I do the same. Now.

It's all just dopamine, serotonin, acetylcholine, etc anyways.

Taper and replace, I calls it.

Taper from harmful substances and switch to less harmful ones. All the way down to sobriety or at least a healthier addiciton. Went from shooting up coke and heroin to alcohol (which was sort of a hge step backwards but I was like, 'heh, this is legal, it must be healthier! her her') ...and am now just tapering kratom and weed.

Anyways, alcohol, ritilin, marijuana, etc. They all affect many different neurochemical pathways, I think. I know cannibis, for instance, affects the same receptors as opioids and benzos, which I found weird. Everything is complicated. More complicated than we could possibly understand. I think.


Anyways, good luck to you. Just make sure you're not trading for a shittier drug.

I think if someone would've pointed me in the direction of uppers, and away from booze, long ago, my life would've been better. Or, at least more productive! lol.

Good luck to you, kind sir or madame.

I love speed. :laugh: Up, optimistic, productive! (Just watch those crashes and maybe sup with a light-weight relaxant to smooth the jitters and other side effects.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Heinrik said:
It's been 2 years i've been drinking almost every day, so I bought ritalin to help me quit, it's been  8 days, so far i'm doing good, I find it gives me similar euphoria to the one I get from alcohol.

It really lift my mood, and I get a lot things done, i think i was drinking because i was depressed.



One addiction for another.

Try kratom. Same idea, addiction for addiction, but kratom is much easier on body and it gets you high!


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Dirty Dave] * 1
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https://www.nih.gov/news-events/news-releases/nida-study-shows-methylphenidate-ritalin-causes-neuronal-changes-brain-reward-areas

"Another study funded by the National Institute on Drug Abuse revealed that Ritalin causes physical changes in neurons in reward regions of mouse brains and these effects were similar to the long-term side effects of cocaine. When placed together, the three studies implied that the long-term side effects of Ritalin include both the onset of clinical depression and potential brain injury to the frontal lobes."

plus it's addicting, tolerance builds insanely fast, and the comedown once you require larger doses is one of the worst things ever.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: feevers]
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Kids were put on that shit in 90s. Maybe lawsuits?


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Dirty Dave]
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i never took my ritalin thats why im smrt

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: cannabinated] * 1
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This is nothing to do with ritalin but I was at a conference today for "service users" ie people that have used health services to beat their addiction and it was super fucking interesting. A lot of it focused on the dangers of polydrug use and how alcohol is a massive contributing factor in drug related deaths.

But on the point of replacing one substance for another. I know fuck all about ritalin but if theres q likely hood thatd youd be replacing drink for something that makes you feel like you've had drink I'd say its probably  no bueno man


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Bumholio]
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almost anything is better than alcohol

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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I would not recommend you start using an upper after recently stopping a lonh term alcohol problem. That lowers the seizure threshold a lot. It will also just replace itself and cost a lot since you’ll have to start taking more and more.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Gorlax]
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Also, is your doctor going to prescribe it to you as a treatment? Cos if not I'm guessing you'll have to get it off
The net or a dealer.  Is it actually ritalin you're getting?


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Eating Kratom for 3, almost 4 weeks daily (1 kg) was what helped me kick alcohol in a similar position as you.
Going on 4 years now since that great experiment.

If you're going to replace a vice with another, make sure the latter is exponentially safer.
Stims..Not so much so.
Opioid like leaf, yuh.


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the ones who are mad to live, mad to talk,
mad to be saved,
desirous of everything at the same time, the ones who never yawn or say a commonplace thing, but burn, burn, burn like fabulous yellow roman candles exploding like spiders across the stars and in the middle you see the blue centerlight pop and everybody goes “Awww!”


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Bumholio]
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Bumholio said:
Also, is your doctor going to prescribe it to you as a treatment? Cos if not I'm guessing you'll have to get it off
The net or a dealer.  Is it actually ritalin you're getting?



This is guy that ignores me. :lol:


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Dirty Dave]
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The ritalin is losing efficiency, now  that my tolerance is high it doesnt feel any better than coffee, I think I'm gonna buy some kratom cuz my cravings for alcohol are returning.

Edited by Heinrik (03/01/19 09:25 AM)

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Try going to a meeting....just being around other dudes with the same affection for booze may help. Also, keep sweets around like jolly ranchers or hard candies that you can keep in your mouth for awhile.
Chocolate helps with cravings too.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Heinrik said:
The ritalin is losing efficiency, now  that my tolerance is high it doesnt feel any better than coffee.




Tried this before and it did not work for me in long run. Maybe sign on yoga class rather than change the form of addiction?


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: LeningradCowboy] * 1
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kr0nik0 said:
Eating Kratom for 3, almost 4 weeks daily (1 kg) was what helped me kick alcohol in a similar position as you.
Going on 4 years now since that great experiment.

If you're going to replace a vice with another, make sure the latter is exponentially safer.
Stims..Not so much so.
Opioid like leaf, yuh.



Ironically enough I also use Kratom for when I want to quit other drugs. Since it won't make me fail a piss test (Fuck my job) it's one of the few things that make you feel great and can help out especially if you are feeling down and need a pick me up.

Of course, don't replace one addiction for another, but at least Kratom aint killin your liver...

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik] * 1
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Replacing an alcohol addiction with a stimulant (that's very similar to cocaine) doesn't sound like a good plan.


If one is wanting to use some other "drug" to quit or taper off a hard drug like alcohol, I think something that's more mild & benign than a stimulant would be ideal...something like kratom and/or kanna and/or kava would be a much better candidate IMO.


Ritalin is less detrimental to the body physically than alcohol is, so if you're wanting to stop drinking the stuff I guess that's progress in some ways from a physical-health stand point...but ritalin is still a straight up stimulant that's comparable to cocaine (tho the ROA isn't up the nose), so if you're wanting to break your addiction I wouldn't consider it any sort of progress.






-OM


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: openmind]
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You're just going to end up getting hooked on Ritalin and when your supply runs out you'll be drinking again. I've heard kratom works well but personally I just smoke weed.

Also this is a no brainer but don't hang around with your friends when they are drinking, hard at first but it gets easier and if they really care about you they will understand your absence.

Wishing you the best my dude, alcohol is the worst drug out there.. and its legal.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Thayendanegea]
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Thayendanegea said:
Try going to a meeting....just being around other dudes with the same affection for booze may help.



I find meetings can intensify my love for the obsession. For me, meetings can be a type of worship service. Bowing down before the powerful baffling and cunning ethanol molecule. All all of the talk of powerlessness makes me feel helpless and powerless. A diseased person and a lifetime of recovery.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: staytrippy420]
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I'm not an alcoholic, but I used to drink a lot and pretty often. Once I started on Kratom I naturally stopped drinking as much. Now I only have 1 or 2 drinks a week and it wasn't something that I set out to do. Kratom itself is addicting so you have to watch out for that too.

Krat, exercise, and even a couple AA meetings would be a good start. After the hard work of beating addiction you will see that life is better when you don't wake up hungover and need a drink or drug to get you through the day.

Good Luck!

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Lophosaurus]
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Lophosaurus said:
I'm not an alcoholic, but I used to drink a lot and pretty often.



It's interesting there's disagreement about the definition of an "alcoholic".

Notice how many people claim they once were an "alcoholic" . . . 

Yet many "experts" claim alcoholism is a "chronic, progressive, lifetime disease"

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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For some people it is :shrug:

You can either control your drinking when you drink or you can't, I'd say for most people there isn't really an inbetween

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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When you trade one daily for addiction for another you're not really "accomplishing" anything IMO/IME. I've yet to find any substance I can use daily that doesn't come with it's own problems. Also IME, when you don't have the thing you traded for, and the thing you're trying to quit is more readily available, you just go back anyways.

Unless it's dangerous to do so (I.E. benzo addiction) it's best to just cold turkey it, but it requires you to have the desire and will power to completely quit. It's not easy but I'm convinced pretty much anyone can do it if they want to bad enough, the question is do you want to bad enough?

I really have very little will power when it comes to drugs (or at least did in the past) but I managed to quit benzos. I did taper but it far from made the withdrawal "easy".. I was just trying to make sure I wouldn't die. It was still hell to get through and required a lot more will power than I even knew I had to stick to it. I did fuck up and start using them again, but I had already quit and was over all the withdrawal for quite awhile before I convinced myself I could just use them here and there and be okay.

I have a good amount of experience with addiction unfortunately.


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I don’t want to get back up but I have to so it might as well be today.
Nothing appeals to me no one feels like me, I’m too busy being calm to disappear.
I’m in no shape to be alone contrary to the shit that you might hear.


You can't wake up, this is not a dream. You're part of a machine, you are not a human being
With your face all made up, living on a screen. Low on self esteem, so you run on gasoline

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Shroomslip]
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I'm about to start microdosing mushies after this next harvest. I've never drank heavy but no matter how I cut back or how much, I always end up back to daily beer and/or whiskey.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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If you're looking for a euphoric type of experience I'd personally recommend Kratom + Phenibut. Both are legal in the US and combined give an amazing head rush and feeling of euphoria. However, do keep in mind they're both addictive and I'd say even more so together. Basically, just try to be responsible, obviously. Best wishes.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: UncleMyc]
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Recommending Phenibut to an alcohol abuser is extremely irresponsible. Phenibut is the most habit forming gaba agonist I can think of. People have been known to have significant withdrawals after using it for only 48-72 hours.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: morrowasted]
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Today I relapsed and ended up drinking wine and beer.

I understand now why most people don't get hooked on alcohol, it's such a shitty feeling if you drink too much.

Vodka feels so much cleaner and natural

I ended up buying vodka and had to bury it in the woods to stop me from drinking the whole bottle.

Edited by Heinrik (03/03/19 03:53 AM)

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: openmind]
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openmind said:
Replacing an alcohol addiction with a stimulant (that's very similar to cocaine) doesn't sound like a good plan.


If one is wanting to use some other "drug" to quit or taper off a hard drug like alcohol, I think something that's more mild & benign than a stimulant would be ideal...something like kratom and/or kanna and/or kava would be a much better candidate IMO.


Ritalin is less detrimental to the body physically than alcohol is, so if you're wanting to stop drinking the stuff I guess that's progress in some ways from a physical-health stand point...but ritalin is still a straight up stimulant that's comparable to cocaine (tho the ROA isn't up the nose), so if you're wanting to break your addiction I wouldn't consider it any sort of progress.






-OM


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anything that doesn't fuck up my liver and internal organs is better than alcohol

Edited by Heinrik (03/03/19 01:07 AM)

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Then weed or kratom but still would suggest yoga, exercise and proper diet


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: LeningradCowboy]
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the problem about weed is that I don't have connections, so I'm planting my own, they're still small so i can't smoke it.

sometimes i smoke the leaves and i find it awesome, such a trippy relaxed feeling, if I had an abundance of it I would never drink again.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Some autos are like 2 month to seed from harvest BTW


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Heinrik said:
Today I relapsed and ended up drinking wine and beer.

I understand now why most people don't get hooked on alcohol, it's such a shitty feeling if you drink too much.

Vodka feels so much cleaner and natural, like opiates.

I ended up buying vodka and had to bury it in the woods to stop me from drinking the whole bottle.




Dont feel bad about a relapse man, it happens but what I would say is switching to vodka is a slippery slope, as is hiding it especially if you're hiding it from family or friends.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Bumholio]
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i drink nearly every day...
really want to give it up. I know its slowly killing me

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Shrumpy] * 1
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haven't read any of the thread but yes i've tried alcohol addiction :yesnod: in the end it wasn't for me.


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Connoisseur said:
oh ive cried on drugs

sunshine said:
Tragic.  I told the cop not to do it but he didn't listen.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: hex_enduction] * 1
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i wish it wasnt for me

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Shrumpy]
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Do you like it?
If not it is not for you.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: LeningradCowboy]
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i do like it.
but i wish i didn;t so i could easily give it up.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Shrumpy]
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If controlled, kraton is easier to give up. Kratom becomes hard after while, but if you get into it knowing its temporary and keep doses minimal, you will be straight.

Fuck alcohol. Society drilled it into everyone's mind that alcohol is cool and relaxing. It is not.

Only time it is cool is when it loosens your girl up a bit to try anal, but like anything... too much gets old very quick.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Heinrik said:
...I understand now why most people don't get hooked on alcohol, it's such a shitty feeling if you drink too much....





:werd:


The last time I had a hang over was the morning after my 23rd birthday (I am now 32)...I was never a regular or heavy drinker (I drank maybe twice a month with friends back then), I just got drunk on my b-day that year after being fed a bunch of shots of whisky all night from people...I woke up that morning feeling like absolute garbage and swore I'd never have a hang over ever again...and I haven't...




No other drug comes anywhere close to making me feel as shitty and terrible as alcohol does the morning after drinking, and I was never a regular or heavy drinker at all....A ridiculously painful throbbing headache, can't focus, sensitive to light, mind/cognition is slow & cloudy, head feels dizzy and balance in general is a bit wonky, body aches, feeling a bit nauseated and queasy if not actually puking, I feel weak and kinda shaky, all around I feel like my body has been poisoned...Alcohol makes me feel like absolute shit the day after drinking and there is no other drug that comes anywhere close to making me feel as terrible as alcohol does.

Cocaine has never come close....the comedown from meth and the day after using meth doesn't come close...the comedown and days after using MDMA doesn't come close...The extent of opioid w/d I've experienced doesn't come close...nothing compares to alcohol, no other drug has ever made me feel as terrible as an alcohol hang over.








Heinrik said:
anything that doesn't fuck up my liver and internal organs is better than alcohol





I hear ya...

Ritalin isn't nearly as detrimental to the body as alcohol is.


Look into getting some "milk thistle" ....If you've been a regular drinker for a while no doubt the drink has had an impact on your liver....Milk thistle is some terrific stuff for the liver, it not only protects the liver but has been shown to heal and improve the function of the liver. It's one thing I highly suggest to those that drink heavily or frequently.







-OM


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: openmind]
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A warning, never mix ritalin with alcohol, it feels way too good.

Think about being in love or winning the lotery then multiply it by 10, ritalin is 5 times more lethal than cocaine, so don't do it.

Edited by Heinrik (03/03/19 03:48 PM)

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik] * 1
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Ritalin isn't that good and neither is alcohol :shrug:

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) *DELETED* [Re: Uzziel]
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Post deleted by Heinrik

Reason for deletion: .

Edited by Heinrik (03/03/19 04:54 PM)

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik] * 1
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I'd rather take MDMA and some Meth if I wanted dopamine and serotonin over 9000

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Uzziel]
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Heinrik said:
A warning, never mix ritalin with alcohol, it feels way too good.

Think about being in love or winning the lotery then multiply it by 10, ritalin is 5 times more lethal than cocaine, so don't do it.




When cocaine is consumed with alcohol in the body, a metabolite is formed which is more potent (and far more cardio-toxic) than cocaine itself.

Ritalin is quite similar to cocaine, I would not be surprised if something like that is going on.










Uzziel said:
Ritalin isn't that good and neither is alcohol :shrug:



Uzziel said:
I'd rather take MDMA and some Meth if I wanted dopamine and serotonin over 9000




I totally agree.

Cocaine (which is similar to ritalin) and alcohol are my two least favorite drugs, two drugs that I feel are rather lame and dull and don't really have much "depth" to em'.

Ritalin was very "meh" the few times I tried it (just like cocaine)...Adderall or meth is tremendously better in lots of ways (tho I'm not a fan of stimulants in general and rarely dabble with em').


Mushrooms give me way better feels than any of those things though, by far!...genuine, rich, warm, hits the soul real deep, ecstatic, leaves me feeling nothing but wonderful the morning/days/weeks after.






-OM

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: openmind] * 1
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I've used valium in the evenings before to help give up alcohol. 5 or 10 mg depending on how anxious I am until the worst subsides. Normally about 2 weeks and it starts to ease and I start sleeping better. Takes a full 3 months to start thinking properly again. That's around the time I might think "yeah I've got it beat" and drink a little again, but it's a way slippery slope from there.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Northerner] * 1
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Fuck alcohol. Its put in me the hospital more times then I can count, from alcohol poisoning to dehydration seizures the next day. Ive done a lot of drugs both uppers and downers, but Im defiantly a downers guy, I love opiates and weed...

Nothing compares to the classic hang over... maybe I'm just a little bitch when it comes to booze idk but I am part First Nations and I'm not sure if thats why but my body just reacts different to it then most of my friends/ peers, I am usually the drunkest even if we all drink the same amount. Alcohol makes me act stupid and ignorant as fuck..

I just started using kratom, and its much more enjoyable for me with almost no "hang over" either... This summer instead of drinking ciders at the lake ill be drinking kratom and lots of water, smoking my ganja.

Fuck coke too, ive seen it ruin too many lives around me and makes me hella depressed.


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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: staytrippy420]
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Yeah i also hate coke, alcohol and ritalin, i was drunk and on  ritalin when I wrote that shit.

But damn that crap feels heavenly for about 30 minutes, too bad it's so dangerous and addictive. And it's lab grade, so it probably feels better than coke when abused.

I never tried coke, but ritalin and alcohol it's such a sexual drug, you feel like orgasming by just seeing a chick in a skirt.
Then you have the worst anxious depressed come down of your life and it's so compulsive that you almost don't care about your life, it's very easy to overdose.

I miss mushrooms so much, I wish I had the balls to try it again, it's a really beautiful chemical but at the same time very dark.

Edited by Heinrik (03/07/19 12:39 PM)

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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Heinrik said:
...I miss mushrooms so much, I wish I had the balls to try it again, it's a really beautiful chemical but at the same time very dark.





They aren't dark at all IME.


Mushrooms are not inherently "dark" or "light".


Maybe your mind goes into a dark place and you have experiences that are "dark", but that is not the mushrooms themselves....that is just your own individual mind :shrug: .

They can be a terrific tool/medicine for breaking habits/cycles/addictions.






Heinrik said:
...Then you have the worst anxious depressed come down of your life and it's so compulsive that you almost don't care about your life, it's very easy to overdose.






All I experienced during the comedown was a bad headache :shrug: . No depression, no compulsion to re-dose...just a really terrible headache. For some reason each time I did ritalin (only a few times years ago) I would get a real shitty headache as the effects started to fade. Like real bad, bad enough that I have no interest in touching the stuff ever again lol.

I'm not a big fan of stims in general though.






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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: openmind]
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openmind said:
No other drug comes anywhere close to making me feel as shitty and terrible as alcohol does...



Drunkards who feel "out of control" and "powerless" are ignorant of the sweet seductive allure of a massive hangover.

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Re: Has anyone ever tried this?(alcohol addiction) [Re: Heinrik]
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I heard on a joe Rogan that a really good tactic to quiting addiction is to set yourself a date to quit by. Even if you fail to meet that goal, keep setting a next date to quit and really try hard to stop by that date. Its a way of altering your neural pathway of addiction. Eventually you'll be encouraged to kick the habit for good. Might work


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