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tyrannicalrex said: right wingers donate more to charity so pro capitalists do spread their money around.
...and then get it back by not paying taxes or finding a loophole to get it back from the IRS, it's a sad circle of shit. So they really don't fucking pay ANYTHING at all. It's just something they say/print to quell people that are disgruntled.
that makes no sense. they dont get the money they gave to chariry back.
and im a right winger and i pay my taxes. the government gives alot of them back to me becaude i have such a low income though. i think thats wrong. i dont think i deserve other people's stolen money.
you dont think any eldt wingers take advantage of loopholes? thats ridiculous.
show me the math you are using to get to them paying nothing.
name some loopholes. you cant just say "there are general problems out there that i cant point"
I'm not a "left wing/right wing" arguer person. There are general problems out there that I can't/don't care to do the research to point at because it's common knowledge for anyone who digs just a bit under the surface. Right, left, doesn't fucking matter, it's the elite rich and corporate fat cat fucks that are fucking greedy as fuck that WILL NOT make moral decisions about money they will NEVER spend in their lifetime, nor will their kids!
did someone say revolution?
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watermelon mon
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Re: Canada vs America [Re: stzacrack]
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last post for a long time
i have little to no money just worked for minimunm wage at some tough jobs
lucky enough to have lived at home i am a loser ; )
shit i just came on here to be friendly
and say i love you
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tyrannicalrex
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Love to you too mon! Take it easy and be well, have fun in life I say!
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Read it, let it sink in, but it's a futile effort unless enough people stand up, because like the song says, that's just the way it is. That bold part sums up a lot of rich peoples way of being.
Standing in line, marking time Waiting for the welfare dime 'Cause they can't buy a job The man in the silk suit hurries by As he catches the poor old lady's eyes Just for fun he says, "Get a job." That's just the way it is Some things will never change That's just the way it is Ah, but don't you believe them Said hey, little boy, you can't go where the others go 'Cause you don't look like they do Said hey, old man, how can you stand to think that way? Did you really think about it before you made the rules? He said, son That's just the way it is Some things will never change That's just the way it is Ah, but don't you believe them Yeah That's just the way it is That's just the way it is Well, they passed a law in '64 To give those who ain't got a little more But it only goes so far Because the law don't change another's mind When all it sees at the hiring time Is the line on the color bar, no That's just the way it is Some things will never change That's just the way it is That's just the way it is, it is, it is, it is
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anarcho punk from Soctland it gets good
Oi Polloi - Fuaim Catha (Full Album)
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Thank you mon, that cover art is fucking great too! Scottish is part of my heritage.
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just saw this on my fb feed and i had to post it; lol
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OP, I bet you didn't see this shit coming!
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Re: Canada vs America [Re: MadValley]
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tyrannicalrex said: you are not forced to buy from companies that make crappy stuff
Yes, people are forced to do so by not making enough money to buy better things because the corporation doesn't want to pay living decent wages to the worker, see the vicious circle here?
There is no vicious circle. People could get a 2nd job and buy something better if they wanted to. People don't have to work for corporations that don't pay them enough. They all have a choice of how much money to make, where they work, and what they spend their money on.
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tyrannicalrex said: you are not forced to buy from companies that make crappy stuff
Yes, people are forced to do so by not making enough money to buy better things because the corporation doesn't want to pay living decent wages to the worker, see the vicious circle here?
There is no vicious circle. People could get a 2nd job and buy something better if they wanted to. People don't have to work for corporations that don't pay them enough. They all have a choice of how much money to make, where they work, and what they spend their money on.
then why did amazon not build in nyc?
oh right they didn't want unions there because they don't want representation for the worker so he doesnt' have to piss in bottles during his shift
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Not in every instance/case. There is a vicious cycle. It can be broken, but it is VERY difficult for a lot of people. I broke it, but I had an opportunity pop up luckily. I suffered somewhat, well maybe a lot of mental stress, but I persevered. Some people can not do so, nor do they have the slightest opportunity.
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There is no cycle. No one is forced to work anywhere. I'm not saying it is easy to get out of poverty. You have to work hard and make sacrifices.
When I was 19 years old I had a box of belongings, a little money, and someone let me sleep in their house for a month. I was basically on the streets with no money so I got a job and worked my ass off for $8 an hour. It wasn't enough to give me extra spending money so I took a job on the weekends too. Now my household can bring in over $400,000 a year. You have to work hard and make your own opportunities.
Konyab, if you don't want to work for Amazon then don't work for them. No one is forcing anybody to work there. If you don't like the way they treat their workers then don't support them. I own my own company and sometimes I piss in a bottle on my shift. You gotta do what you gotta do to make money.
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BANANA.MAN
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tyrannicalrex said: Read it, let it sink in, but it's a futile effort unless enough people stand up, because like the song says, that's just the way it is. That bold part sums up a lot of rich peoples way of being.
Standing in line, marking time Waiting for the welfare dime 'Cause they can't buy a job The man in the silk suit hurries by As he catches the poor old lady's eyes Just for fun he says, "Get a job." That's just the way it is Some things will never change That's just the way it is Ah, but don't you believe them Said hey, little boy, you can't go where the others go 'Cause you don't look like they do Said hey, old man, how can you stand to think that way? Did you really think about it before you made the rules? He said, son That's just the way it is Some things will never change That's just the way it is Ah, but don't you believe them Yeah That's just the way it is That's just the way it is Well, they passed a law in '64 To give those who ain't got a little more But it only goes so far Because the law don't change another's mind When all it sees at the hiring time Is the line on the color bar, no That's just the way it is Some things will never change That's just the way it is That's just the way it is, it is, it is, it is
you havent addressed my stats which demonstrate that free markets have produced more welqth and lifted more people out of poverty than anything else in history. what you are proposing is bad for the economy and even poor people.
do you think a guy who spends all his money on alcohol and hasnt created anything useful or employed any people or taken on any financial risk is entitled to wealth someone earned simply because they exist? thats deeply immoral.
if we all own the fruits of our own labour, production will translate into income. and if the government quits making it harder and riskier to get a business off the ground or contribute to a business then we will all have an abundance of opportunity. not that we have any shortage of opportunity now.
2% of the people who follow those THREE BARE MINIMUM laws are permijemtly poor in the united states. thats a statistical reality. from the eft winged brookings institute. not a right winged source.
you dont beleive i have a right to be left alone and a right to my property. you beleive i have a responsibility to give you things for free because you exist. thats immoral.
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Endless futile discussion. I do think there might be a middle ground and incorporate both ideas, but one won't accommodate the other due to each one not wanting to do what is "right" in order for them to mesh/work together. I will never "address your stats" because I don't have to,lol. I really don't give a fuck in here. I just state my opinion most of the time and really don't care too much who listens or not unless I'm giving advice on drugs or relationships, and even then it's just my opinion/statement. Fuck looking up stats and other BS that can be skewed. I didn't go to school to educate myself on politics, finance, and other things that wealthy people have the opportunity to and are really forced into to protect their family inheritance. I do think education can bring one out of poverty to a certain level, but at the same time people from certain areas of the world and from certain families get blackballed by those in control. I just move along and have a good time.
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BANANA.MAN
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tyrannicalrex said: Endless futile discussion. I do think there might be a middle ground and incorporate both ideas, but one won't accommodate the other due to each one not wanting to do what is "right" in order for them to mesh/work together. I will never "address your stats" because I don't have to,lol. I really don't give a fuck in here. I just state my opinion most of the time and really don't care too much who listens or not unless I'm giving advice on drugs or relationships, and even then it's just my opinion/statement. Fuck looking up stats and other BS that can be skewed. I didn't go to school to educate myself on politics, finance, and other things that wealthy people have the opportunity to and are really forced into to protect their family inheritance. I do think education can bring one out of poverty to a certain level, but at the same time people from certain areas of the world and from certain families get blackballed by those in control. I just move along and have a good time.
thats fine..you dont have to address my facts. but then when you go and say capitalism makes people poor, that is in conflict with my stats. they show that economic freedom has lifted more people out of extreme poverty than anything in history. so your criticism is not valid. capitalism is better for poor people. and more importantly, it is moral.
i dont want a middle ground with people who want to take money at gunpoint and redistribite it.
ive seen many scewed/ inappropriately applied stats. and i just point out why they are screwed/arent applied correctly.
go ahead and discuss totally outside rhe realm of facts. but thats whats making in an "endless futile discussion" if we were talking about fact we could have a productive discussion.
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MadValley
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That's what I'm talkin' about.
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"Second largest in population" Say Whaaaaaaaattttt?
They forgot "Ignorant about the rest of the fucking planet." "First in Health Care (costs). 38th in Health Care (results)." "Repeat the above for education, infrastructure, voter participation, and other important things."
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