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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #25847298 - 03/02/19 08:54 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

None of those were actual terrorist attacks. The last one is just attempted murder.


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: koods]
    #25847375 - 03/02/19 09:52 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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None of those were actual terrorist attacks. The last one is just attempted murder.



you are implying Iran is not a threat. funding a terrorist group is still extremism. so is plotting a terror attack and protecting terrorists who would go on to execute the largest terror attack in us history.

you are narrowing the criteria for being a threat to preforming terror attacks. its quite clear that not all radicals are terrorists themselves.

and besides, the point you are missing is those all involve the Iranian government. that makes Iran much more of a threat than other muslim countries. their government, not just their citizenry participates in and sanctions terrorism/extremism.

and not too long ago Iran also fired a missile at Golan Heights (Israel)

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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #25847522 - 03/02/19 11:02 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

I agree. But multiple governments are suspected of the same things. They just deny it. Saudia Arabia is the big one. Qatar and Pakistan come to mind as well.

Edit: And how could I forget al-Assad and Syria...


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #25847557 - 03/02/19 11:17 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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I agree. But multiple governments are suspected of the same things. They just deny it. Saudia Arabia is the big one. Qatar and Pakistan come to mind as well.

Edit: And how could I forget al-Assad and Syria...



did they lie about their nuclear program or fire missels at Israel?

Iran is definately my biggest concern.

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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: MoonFarmer]
    #25847563 - 03/02/19 11:19 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Terroist are really trully and honestly paramilitary WITH big support systems.

They get kinda lost though like a lot of hillbillies and hippies forming their own delusions.


The allies are just not ready for world war 3 and neither is the axis.  It's be a stalemate with a allie victory and a lot of mop up police work on terroists.

I don't believe in paramilitary myself as it's not the best.  It is plausibly denaiable to an extent the media doesn't do more than hint about.  They are starting to catch on.

Who really wants 30 wives?  I've seen what that can do to a man.


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #25847574 - 03/02/19 11:23 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Fuck Israel. They provoked those attacks.

Wanna talk about truly horrific “terrorism,” let’s not forget the hundreds of Iranian civilians murdered by the US government. Shooting down an Iranian airliner in Iranian airspace and then blaming them for it. Iran is really fucking measured in the way it responds to US especially with the recent US violations of its nuclear treaty with the country.m

BTW it’s really amazing how the fact that we shot down a 737 full of Iranians has pretty much been whitewashed out of the American consciousness. One of the worst airline disasters in world history and I would guess more than half of Americans have no idea it ever happened


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: koods]
    #25847608 - 03/02/19 11:32 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

they're not measured they're impotent :lol:

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Wanna talk about truly horrific “terrorism,” let’s not forget the hundreds of Iranian civilians murdered by the US government. Shooting down an Iranian airliner in Iranian airspace and then blaming them for it.




nice conspiracy theory

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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: koods] * 1
    #25847621 - 03/02/19 11:37 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

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I agree. But multiple governments are suspected of the same things. They just deny it. Saudia Arabia is the big one. Qatar and Pakistan come to mind as well.

Edit: And how could I forget al-Assad and Syria...



did they lie about their nuclear program or fire missels at Israel?

Iran is definately my biggest concern.





Pakistan is a much greater threat.  Iran has had sour relations and they should give up their posture.  Pakistan is the only nuclear muslim nation.  Muslims have a dangerous group identity that seems all religions want to prove.

It's a failure to prove a religion because religion is beyond the self.  A community is a failure to orove r
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Fuck Israel. They provoked those attacks.

Wanna talk about truly horrific “terrorism,” let’s not forget the hundreds of Iranian civilians murdered by the US government. Shooting down an Iranian airliner in Iranian airspace and then blaming them for it. Iran is really fucking measured in the way it responds to US especially with the recent US violations of its nuclear treaty with the country.m

BTW it’s really amazing how the fact that we shot down a 737 full of Iranians has pretty much been whitewashed out of the American consciousness. One of the worst airline disasters in world history and I would guess more than half of Americans have no idea it ever happened





So not cool dude.  It's the only Jewish state in the world.  It's not the best neighborhood either.  I don't think Jesus wanted the Jews to suffer as much as the Devil has been out to get them.  So don't do the devils work as that evil spirit loves what we don't know.


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: BANANA.MAN]
    #25847625 - 03/02/19 11:38 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Quote:

MoonFarmer said:
I agree. But multiple governments are suspected of the same things. They just deny it. Saudia Arabia is the big one. Qatar and Pakistan come to mind as well.

Edit: And how could I forget al-Assad and Syria...



did they lie about their nuclear program or fire missels at Israel?

Iran is definately my biggest concern.





True, I should have said minus the nuclear program. I meant funding terrorism.

Again, I do agree that Iran is a problem. But I also agree with koods that Saudia Arabia is the deadly snake in the grass. Especially Trump not questioning anything the crown prince says.


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: koods]
    #25847654 - 03/02/19 11:48 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

How did Israel provoke the attack on Golan Heights?

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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #25847826 - 03/02/19 01:19 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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they're not measured they're impotent :lol:

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Wanna talk about truly horrific “terrorism,” let’s not forget the hundreds of Iranian civilians murdered by the US government. Shooting down an Iranian airliner in Iranian airspace and then blaming them for it.




nice conspiracy theory




No that’s exactly what happened.



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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: koods]
    #25847896 - 03/02/19 02:04 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

i know you aren't stupid enough to not know the difference between intentional terrorist attacks against civilians and a case of mistaken identity that had tragic consequences

also RT lol

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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: Mad_Larkin]
    #25847908 - 03/02/19 02:08 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Yeah well you can’t find any American media discussion about the event


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: koods]
    #25848644 - 03/02/19 08:50 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

No? I mean it's not discussed that much anymore, but it was at the time - it's just not easy to dig up all of the relevant data & articles pre-internet
Some of it is definitely more military/academic than mainstream media but it's out there as well.

People like to bemoan "forgotten story this, forgotten story that" but from the perspective of anyone who studies any moderate amount of history - it's clear that most people have fuckall awareness of what has happened in the last 1000 years, 100 years, 50 years, 10 years, whatever you name it lol.

https://www.newsweek.com/sea-lies-200118
https://web.archive.org/web/20121008210815/http://www.fas.org/news/iran/1992/920722-236124.htm
http://articles.latimes.com/1989-09-01/news/mn-1628_1_robo-cruiser
https://web.archive.org/web/20060527221409/http://dolphin.upenn.edu/~nrotc/ns302/20note.html
https://apps.dtic.mil/dtic/tr/fulltext/u2/a203577.pdf
https://ocw.mit.edu/courses/aeronautics-and-astronautics/16-422-human-supervisory-control-of-automated-systems-spring-2004/projects/vincennes.pdf
https://www.chicagotribune.com/news/ct-xpm-1988-08-20-8801240241-story.html
https://www.c-span.org/video/?4065-1/report-downing-iranian-air-flight-655
http://articles.latimes.com/1988-07-06/news/mn-5340_1_iran-air


More recently:
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/worldviews/wp/2013/10/16/the-forgotten-story-of-iran-air-flight-655/?utm_term=.b74a51cbe03a
https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/tehranbureau/2010/07/remembering-iran-air-flight-655.html
https://www.usnews.com/news/world/articles/2018-07-03/30-years-later-us-downing-of-iran-flight-haunts-relations
https://www.tampabay.com/news/military/who-did-thisit-was-us/2189934


And that was just a handful minutes of searching :lol:
I mean what do you just expect people to be lazy?

And Reagan was a dickhead, - his govt didn't necessarily admit responsibility or submit an "apology" - as per what would be satisfactory to the USSR/Russia :lol: and maintained that the jet was transmitting military frequencies alongside civilian and also did not respond to 10+ radio hails over military and civilian frequencies... but they at least did pay out 60+ million$ to the families - so yeah (about 280,000$ per person)


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: twighead] * 1
    #25849824 - 03/03/19 01:34 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)



Putin approves of your research pwnage my friend.


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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: Asante]
    #25850166 - 03/03/19 05:11 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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If India and Pakistan fully commit to a nuclear exchange, the whole world will be plunged into Nuclear Winter, blocking out the sun for a few decades.



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A single large explosion of 15MT does way less damage than 100x 150kT.



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Re: Pakistan and India Going to War? [Re: specialpeopleclub]
    #25854765 - 03/05/19 05:24 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)



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