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InvisibleDelyrium
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why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do?
    #2584139 - 04/20/04 08:44 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Okay so I started a project a while ago - at first it was a trip-hop thing but we wanted a little more fun and moved on to a little punk.

anyway - im having a horrible time writing lyrics. haha. i think it's because i don't have a lot of bad depressing shit going on. ya know? you need upsetting things to happen in order to get good lyrics spit out.

i need some suggestions - what should i write a song about?


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2584236 - 04/20/04 09:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

maybe because it can be hard to do.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: YouEnjoyMyself]
    #2584239 - 04/20/04 09:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

You should write about why either I am awesome, or why the Shroomery is awesome....but i think that would be hard to incorporate into a song....so sorry for wasting your time.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2584309 - 04/20/04 09:36 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

write about drugs, but be sneaky about it.

Like write a love song to a girl named Alice D or mary jane, or some crap.

or just write about how gay the cops are.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2584575 - 04/20/04 10:34 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Just because you aren't unhappy NOW doesn't mean you can't draw upon those things in your life that were troublesome. Not that I know a TON about you, but I do know of some things in your life that, atleast it would seem to me, could be endless sources of artistic inspiration. Personally I find that being in a secure place in your life is the best time to write (or any artistic expression really, I'm just a writer) about the times that you weren't. You have a different perspective on it so you can find new ways to express it.

But that's just me...

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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2584633 - 04/20/04 10:46 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Not everyone was meant to write lyrics.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: bert]
    #2584689 - 04/20/04 11:02 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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Not everyone was meant to write lyrics. 




true.
but its fun to try things :laugh: heh!

Del, write whatever you dig..ya know?
the cool thing abou art is its  your world your creating and you are free to create the simplest or most complex things you can imagine..

I would reccomend writng about tripping..because its powerful
and involves many things
music is emotion..feel it and it will come out right
maybe compare some lyrics you like to get a base

there are sooo many ways to write..you can be as painfully blatant or as subtly ironic as you like
you can twist themes
rhyme..create visualizations..flow..tell a story..come full circle.. or just write words :grin:
http://www.lyricsondemand.com/s/sydbarretlyrics/thewordsonglyrics.html

maybe think about truely powerful memories/emotions in your life
love... passion..sorrow

lovers can inspire great works of art :cool:

most importantly have fun!
I know you can write something great..just put your  :heart: in it :sun:


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2585059 - 04/21/04 12:55 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

get a mini-recorder and mess around with it for a while...take whatever good lines you come up with and work em into a song


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Muppet]
    #2585069 - 04/21/04 12:58 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

i've thought about that. i think of some goood stuff when there's no pen or pad handy.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2585105 - 04/21/04 01:05 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I guess it's a gift. Some people have it, some don't. I don't know. It just comes naturally to me, though I've definitely improved over time. Practice makes perfect, so just keep trying.

As for the lack of depressing shit, that doesn't necessarily matter. I find that any powerful feeling is easy to write about. That's why some of my best songs are about tripping. Also, you could write about some cause you believe in. I've written a few good anti-war songs.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: silversoul7]
    #2585425 - 04/21/04 02:05 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Anybody can write lyrics...

Rhyming can be the hard part, but not all lyrics have to rhyme...

The best thing for me when I want to write is smoke a phat blunt and turn the headphones up. *shrug*


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2585433 - 04/21/04 02:05 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

Everyone has the potential to write lyrics.
I think that its only a matter of finding something u really wanna write about. i definatley think its 100x easier if u smoke a little.....not a pound mind you.....but just enough to get your mind at ease out there and connecting......just play a little music in the back and relax....once u find that subject only pure bliss can occur


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2585542 - 04/21/04 02:22 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

The greats say some of there best songs came to them extremely easily, they just wrote themselves. I personally thing it's something you tap into and let flooowwww.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Adom]
    #2585550 - 04/21/04 02:24 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

word


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2586027 - 04/21/04 07:40 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

As much as I like punk and play punk writing punk lyrics doesnt come easy to me, they are too easy for me to write, I cant let go with nonsense lyrics... and when I write punk lyrics I strive for the punk anarcho nonsense extra much and it all becomes about how I sniff glue and play in a band and how messy my room looks like and stupid stuff like that. When I write political its better though...

My best side of writing and what i'm most fond of are poetical romantic dramatic melancholic stuff. And I dont mean to brag but this is one thing I know (and have been told) that I'm good at. You dont need talent specifically, you need a slight sense of insanity and a depth withing your thinking and connect it to dramatic mental vocabular disection of everything you see and think... and do this often. TO me its natural. Like say you sit in your garden and look at whats around you, dissect what you see and think, put in words and in dramatic depth. Like, for instance, "the swallowing ground of euphoria sweeps me beneath the distinct aroma of rose bushes and spring flowers all ever so slightly reminding me of the sweet tone of your heart"... just a freestyle of the top of my head there, but you get what I mean. You have to let your self sweep off your feet by your senses and what you percieve... try to fake a trippy state of mind.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: filthysock]
    #2586133 - 04/21/04 09:47 AM (17 years, 1 month ago)

I, too, find lyric writing rather easy. Writing accompanying music is impossible to me.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2586543 - 04/21/04 12:47 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

the key to writing good lyrics is writing lots and lots of bad ones. but dont throw anything out ever. i must have about 1000 songs written out full guitar and vocals that suck so bad, they must never be played again...but out of all of that ive probably got 10 i am very proud of.

the more you write the better it gets.

as for what to write about...write about your emotions and what they do to you, or if you dont want to do that sometimes i like to find an amazing painting and write a poem kinda like a story about how exactly whats happening in the painting happend. its tough, but they come out good.


im late for class...peace

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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: angryjslice]
    #2587379 - 04/21/04 05:16 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

thanks everyone!! i worked on it some more last night and it's getting there. i did an anti-war song - im just waiting for my guitarist to make up a song that'll go with it. i have always written poems - but putting it into a musical sound is a little harder for me. words dont fit, they dont sound right, etc...

blah - i like writing on the train though - gives me time to think when i commute an hour to school and back. :smile:


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Delyrium]
    #2587404 - 04/21/04 05:22 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

If you're serious about it, have a little block of paper with you and a pen everywhere you go, inspiration pops up randomnly, and sometimes you just come up with two lines that rhyme well, its these moments that are good to capture.

Yeah, fitting lyrics into music is hard, I have no advice on that front, I just write poetry.... but if you have a whole lot of poetry, randomn good lines and good ideas you could find a way to edit it into the music I guess.


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: filthysock]
    #2592109 - 04/22/04 08:36 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

When I need some inspection I like to repeatedly dunk my head into a bucket of bleach. Now don't get me wrong, I'm not crazy or nothin, I don't leave my eyes open, or inhale a belly-full of the stuff, I just keep doing it until my noses are cleared out and I can't stand up strate. Sometimes I think I think my brain gets busted but then I think, I put this stuff in my cloths all the time, and my skin never gets busted?

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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: MaskedMulatto]
    #2592158 - 04/22/04 08:50 PM (17 years, 1 month ago)

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When I need some inspection I like to repeatedly dunk my head into a bucket of bleach.  Now don't get me wrong, I'm not crazy or nothin, I don't leave my eyes open, or inhale a belly-full of the stuff, I just keep doing it until my noses are cleared out and I can't stand up strate.  Sometimes I think I think my brain gets busted but then I think, I put this stuff in my cloths all the time, and my skin never gets busted?

Zirk~




here i was thinking i was alone in that practice. ah, how the internet brings the strange together. :smile2:


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: debianlinux]
    #5335506 - 02/24/06 06:57 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

I like to have a good improv artist come up with a good instrumental line, but not polish it, and then just play that when the band gets together. I sing something that makes me fell he same way the music does. I can't sing, so the band hates it, but then the singer takes what I said and polishes it himself. I jus can't feel the song when I'm scribbleing lines on paper. before and after practice I just sit down, Smoke some weed, and try to figure out why I am the way I am. Gives me no psychological info, but it frees up my creative mind to come up with awesome lyrics through blinding flashes of the obvious. Some of the best songs just say the obvious in an artful way, and weed helps you lower the inhibitions about that sort of thing. (e.g. highway to hell, war pigs, time, another brick in the wall, etc.)


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Re: why are writing lyrics so fucking hard to do? [Re: Ahab McBathsalts]
    #5335722 - 02/24/06 08:33 PM (15 years, 3 months ago)

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evilnick said:
write about drugs, but be sneaky about it.

Like write a love song to a girl named Alice D or mary jane, or some crap.

or just write about how gay the cops are.




Alice D!!! thats a good one...


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