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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech] 1
#25841045 - 02/27/19 10:45 AM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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More like 100+ psi. The presto holds at least 3-5x the rated pressure to be UL listed. Considering the lid went nearly straight up im guessing they forced it open
Soda bottles hold 120+ before popping
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ShaperDreaming
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25841053 - 02/27/19 10:48 AM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: Soda bottles hold 120+ before popping
How much psi does a mentos make in coke
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tryptkaloids
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Caps McGee said: Could be a stone I guess, as iirc, any variety can throw stones... more likely imo, it's probably a mutant due to whatever conditions caused the aborting of other fruit in the tub
no variety of cubensis has ever or will ever produce sclerotia. it's simply not in the genes
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25841124 - 02/27/19 11:20 AM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said: More like 100+ psi. The presto holds at least 3-5x the rated pressure to be UL listed. Considering the lid went nearly straight up im guessing they forced it open
Soda bottles hold 120+ before popping
Wow, that's crazy... well learn something every day
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Caps McGee
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: tryptkaloids]
#25841394 - 02/27/19 01:34 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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tryptkaloids said:
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Caps McGee said: Could be a stone I guess, as iirc, any variety can throw stones... more likely imo, it's probably a mutant due to whatever conditions caused the aborting of other fruit in the tub
no variety of cubensis has ever or will ever produce sclerotia. it's simply not in the genes
I thought one of the popular stone producers was a cube? Lol, guess I had it inverted
Crazy how dangerous mush cult can be
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25841447 - 02/27/19 01:55 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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certain pans/copes can form pseudostones.. but never any cube
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bodhisatta 
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
#25841461 - 02/27/19 02:03 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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icetech said:
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bodhisatta said: More like 100+ psi. The presto holds at least 3-5x the rated pressure to be UL listed. Considering the lid went nearly straight up im guessing they forced it open
Soda bottles hold 120+ before popping
Wow, that's crazy... well learn something every day 
The soda stream puts more than 30 psi into a glass bottle.
Champagne bottles have something like 90-120psi on them
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: bodhisatta]
#25841465 - 02/27/19 02:04 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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bodhisatta said:
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icetech said:
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bodhisatta said: More like 100+ psi. The presto holds at least 3-5x the rated pressure to be UL listed. Considering the lid went nearly straight up im guessing they forced it open
Soda bottles hold 120+ before popping
Wow, that's crazy... well learn something every day 
The soda stream puts more than 30 psi into a glass bottle.
Champagne bottles have something like 90-120psi on them
K.. so i'm fucked in the head.. i read this and instantly wondered.. Hmm.. if you held the tip of your penis closed when getting off.. what would the pressure build up be? (other than awesome of course)
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: icetech]
#25841484 - 02/27/19 02:11 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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Tweeq
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25841519 - 02/27/19 02:28 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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Caps McGee said: I thought one of the popular stone producers was a cube? Lol, guess I had it inverted
Crazy how dangerous mush cult can be
Guess you had Psilocybe Mexicana (which is supposed to give more stones than fruits) mixed up with Ps. Cubensis Mexicana.
I have some stones to clone, so I'll surely give them a go
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Tweeq]
#25841596 - 02/27/19 02:57 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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"just no" is so hot right now!
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Tweeq
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Psilosopherr]
#25841641 - 02/27/19 03:16 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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Don't know how that came across but I was just trying to clarify the possible mixup.
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Caps McGee]
#25841776 - 02/27/19 04:27 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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icetech said: P.S. the one link had the known history of PE.. very interesting.. now i need to read up on pollack, curious if they solved that one.. (and nope.. what a load of shit the cops can be...) " PE #6 (Texas crossed with PE)" and that question answered
The common history of PE was that Pollack created it. But as said in one of my links, there's debate over this. Something to do with McKenna and an Amazonian wild fruit, I think. I don't know. But nothing definitive like with APE, RW, or ESS which all have roots on here. 
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Caps McGee said: I thought one of the popular stone producers was a cube? Lol, guess I had it inverted
No. But like Tweeq pointed out, you're likely confusing P. mexicana (stone producers, different species) with P. cubensis "Mexican", which are Psilocybe cubensis varieties like B+, EQ, and GT. It doesn't seem like people have called those varieties Mexican/Mexicana for 10+ years, but I'm just searching.
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icetech said: Was just curious.. has anyone ever run an experiment of 2 growers using the same spores and checking potency of the shrooms? The fact my last 3 grows of 3 strains were all so weak that 5g dry was a mild buzz is bugging me.. people say genetics.. but 3 different ones?
You're confusing "strain" with "variety." And using different spores would give different genetics entirely. You're going to have different genetics throughout the same MS grow. If you want reliable genetics, you need clones/isolates. There's way too many variables that go into a trip to confirm potency anyway. And to actually confirm it on the science tip would need something like GC/MS, I thought?
Do an MS grow, clone a few nice clusters, and fruit each one out to find desired genetics, e.g., potency, yield, speed, etc. I've heard some growers eat the specimen fresh after cloning it to test the potency. With MS of a domesticated and proven active species, the odds are solid you'll get a decent flush and reliable potency, but obviously it's not a guarantee. Pasty grew PE that was completely bunk, IIRC.
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stareatclouds
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I asked about this previously and think bod said he's experienced it. But anybody ever have their gloves produce some soapy, slippery residue after putting iso on them? I just bought a brand new 100 pack of latex-free, nitrile gloves, and after wiping with iso, they get little soap bubbles and make EVERYTHING impossible to handle. Pretty infuriating when you're all setup and need to do a bunch of stuff.
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LtLurker
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Reaction with powder maybe?
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Mr. Funguy
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#25841834 - 02/27/19 04:49 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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I use powderless and use iso to clean my gloves on my hands everytime I go into my SAB. Powderless nitrile is the way to go!
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stareatclouds
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: LtLurker]
#25841837 - 02/27/19 04:50 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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Nah, they're obv powder-free as well. No powder, latex-free, standard nitrile gloves that we want for our hobby. Initially I thought they were getting soapy from something in the SAB since I spray it down before sessions, but nope, still soapy when freshly used pre-SAB entry. The last batch I had stopped doing it later on deeper into the 100.
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Mr. Funguy
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Shitty production line I bet... just grab a new box, they're only like 10 for 1k.
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Re: Cultivation General Discussion [Re: Mr. Funguy]
#25841858 - 02/27/19 04:56 PM (5 years, 3 days ago) |
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Yes, I obviously bought a new box. I'm trying to narrow down if it's anything I'm doing or can remedy or prevent. Where do you pay that? The replacement I just got at HD was $15 for 100 and the questionable box was like $8 on sale on Amazon for 100.
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Mr. Funguy
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Well I'd get two to see if it was just that one box, then I'd email the seller and let them know what's up with their sub par soapy gloves.
Edit- I think I picked some up at Depot Home Also I am wrong about the 1k, it was 200 for 10$
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