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Unmodified tub update!
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Hey guys just wanted to share with you that I finally got a pin set!!!! Just not in the right place lol side pins out the ass. What can I do in future grows to help with this?



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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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You no like smooshed dongers?

I hear you can line thd inside of the bottom of your tub with a clean black plastic bag. The bag sticks to the sub when it shrinks away from the sides and prevents a gap which is creating a sweet micro climate that shrooms luv.

Some say to lay a sheet of suran wrap or something lightly on the top as to create that same micro climate as on the sides.

Some say if your surface conditions are tits then you wont get many side pins.

Personally i say fuck it...let them smoosh!

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Feasoghorm]
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I say a side tamp at spawn reduces shrinking.  I say liners are a pain in the ass.  I do say correct conditions and mitigation of side drips also helps.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Timboslice said:
You no like smooshed dongers?

I hear you can line thd inside of the bottom of your tub with a clean black plastic bag. The bag sticks to the sub when it shrinks away from the sides and prevents a gap which is creating a sweet micro climate that shrooms luv.

Some say to lay a sheet of suran wrap or something lightly on the top as to create that same micro climate as on the sides.

Some say if your surface conditions are tits then you wont get many side pins.

Personally i say fuck it...let them smoosh!



Their just such a bitch to harvest šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚

BeefSupremeJr said:
I say a side tamp at spawn reduces shrinking.  I say liners are a pain in the ass.  I do say correct conditions and mitigation of side drips also helps.



What could I do to help the surface conditions. Ps these pins didn’t pop up until I literally dunked the whole tub next day pins everywhere


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Congratulations on your pin set! That feeling is amazing.

Here is some great reading for you that will help with this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053/fpart/all/vc/1

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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Probably too late to do much about it at this point. Your pin set is sort of set in stone when your fruit starts to mature. but try to dial in ā€œthe glistenā€ next run.  Happens totally naturally but you often need to replace it when it evaporates over no less than 24 hours.  Ultra fine mister is the tool for that. 


Edit haha I was going to post that comeback kid writeup myself.  I think I’ll add it to my journal.


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Edited by BeefExtreme (02/25/19 07:16 PM)

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Puduwoke said:
Congratulations on your pin set! That feeling is amazing.

Here is some great reading for you that will help with this
https://www.shroomery.org/forums/showflat.php/Number/23999053/fpart/all/vc/1



I actually had a much better set on my first ever tub it was modded and I feel like that worked better for me to be honest.

BeefSupremeJr said:
Probably too late to do much about it at this point. Your pin set is sort of set in stone when your fruit starts to mature. but try to dial in ā€œthe glistenā€ next run.  Happens totally naturally but you often need to replace it when it evaporates over no less than 24 hours.  Ultra fine mister is the tool for that. 


Edit haha I was going to post that comeback kid writeup myself.  I think I’ll add it to my journal.




I meant for the next tub šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚. I tried to mist 3 times daily to keep that up I think that the sub was really dry it was a brick of coir to 4qts water.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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Wait, a brick to four qts no verm? Wayyy too much water.

If you’re misting three times a day it’s too much fae.  Put the lid back on.  Snap one side down.  I mist maybe once or twice in the entire pin cycle.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Sorry I forgot 2 cups Verm my latest tube was wayyy less Verm and a shit load of spawn I did it yesterday and already see growth through the sides šŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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Yea that’s about right.  Get your glisten and get your evap time down to more lie 36 hours.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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Ya know, i kept reading posts about people jst setting it up correctly and not dickin' with it till their first harvest.

I've got a few tubs colonizing right now that i got the sub and casing mix perfect, flipped the lids, left it alone! no opening lid, and everything jst settled right in. Perfect little beads of moisture on beautiful white myc.

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Feasoghorm]
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Timboslice said:
Ya know, i kept reading posts about people jst setting it up correctly and not dickin' with it till their first harvest.

I've got a few tubs colonizing right now that i got the sub and casing mix perfect, flipped the lids, left it alone! no opening lid, and everything jst settled right in. Perfect little beads of moisture on beautiful white myc.




Yep.  Let the beads get just about gone and reapply.  Wipe extra off the walls.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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I’ll try locking a side down that sounds like a simple solution also a good time to experiment since I started yesterday.

And timbo I tried that on this tub and didn’t work for me probably just dry sub is my guess.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097] * 1
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Took me a while to get comfortable enough with the bucket tek to attain field capacity. Kept buring my fucking hands.

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Feasoghorm]
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I just dialed in a perfect batch at 2qts water per 650g brick, no verm.  Can’t wait to spawn it.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Got 105qt tubs so i use 1000 grams coir, 4qts verm, and my soup pot of water filled up to the handle.

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Feasoghorm]
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Is it all in just the coir I use eco earth?


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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I’m using eco earth too,  presently.  Try 2.25 quarts boiling to a brick,  no verm.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Similar yield compared to added Verm?


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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I’m banking on better retention thus better yield.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Wow maybe I’ll just start doing that how many quarts of spawn per brick for you I did 5 last time but I have double the jars now?


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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BeefSupremeJr said:
Timboslice said:
Ya know, i kept reading posts about people jst setting it up correctly and not dickin' with it till their first harvest.

I've got a few tubs colonizing right now that i got the sub and casing mix perfect, flipped the lids, left it alone! no opening lid, and everything jst settled right in. Perfect little beads of moisture on beautiful white myc.




Yep.  Let the beads get just about gone and reapply.  Wipe extra off the walls.



What is this wiping it off the walls stuff?  Do you wipe large water droplets off your walls?  Elaborate!  Never heard this before, and am very curious

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: SumFunGi]
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SumFunGi said:
BeefSupremeJr said:
Timboslice said:
Ya know, i kept reading posts about people jst setting it up correctly and not dickin' with it till their first harvest.

I've got a few tubs colonizing right now that i got the sub and casing mix perfect, flipped the lids, left it alone! no opening lid, and everything jst settled right in. Perfect little beads of moisture on beautiful white myc.




Yep.  Let the beads get just about gone and reapply.  Wipe extra off the walls.



What is this wiping it off the walls stuff?  Do you wipe large water droplets off your walls?  Elaborate!  Never heard this before, and am very curious



What that guy said ^


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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If your house is on the cold side you’ll get condensation on the walls.  When it drips down it pools. 

Don’t let it do that.  That’s it.  I know some growers don’t care much and the damage may be minimal but I’m a perfectionist and I hate matted down myc,,


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: BeefExtreme]
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Just found pics of my first grow everšŸ˜‚šŸ˜‚ how did I get that pin set from a fucking ms syringe into a presterilized grain bag from some dude off of the inter web lol.



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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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Not bad.  You could do even better with clones.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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I am not sure if this works yet as I am still awaiting pins on my first tubs. But watching BOD's video about spawning to tubs, he mentions patting down the edges when you dump in the spawn and coir, then mixing. When your leveling your surface, he mentions to give a light pat on edges in the tub to help with side pinning. I did this on my tubs, but they are still colonizing. Do you remember doing that? Also, how far along did you get pin set?? Im excited about my tubs

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: woofwoof]
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I didn’t and I left exposed grains on top with no liner. I had weak spawn it took me like 17 or 18 days just for pins something in my sub was off though.


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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: Myc097]
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Gotcha. I have one tub at 66 qrts, with 1 brick of coir to 3 spawn art jars,. that shit be taking a minute. I have 2 other tubs in smaller tub 32 qrts colonizing much faster

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Re: Unmodified tub update! [Re: woofwoof]
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Ya you want almost a 1:1 ratio I believe so that’s why it’s taking so to pin.


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