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    #25837307 - 02/25/19 05:33 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

As we know, in the Indo-European languages, actions are subordinate to objects. In many other languages, some of which Westerners might consider exotic -- like the Oriental languages such as Chinese, or the indigenous Native American languages, like Navajo, Blackfoot or Mayan -- objects are subordinate to actions. Which makes more sense, or rather, which is a better descriptor of reality? I guess you could put it this way: Is Nature more like a noun, or a verb?


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Re: Action- vs. object-based languages [Re: DividedQuantum] * 1
    #25837380 - 02/25/19 06:02 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

in the ethnos, it's action [and in the transcendent sense of the term, as well].
in the narod, and onwards (into nations and the socium), it's object; as the conscious mind inflects itself into the in the socium or the narod, or nation, and exemplifies itself their, instead of the ethnos, instead of a reflective 'action-based language',
you get a reflexive [due the reflective nature of the mind as object turning in on itself] language.

nature is more like a verb and noun at once. what's that called?

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Re: Action- vs. object-based languages [Re: akira_akuma] * 1
    #25837397 - 02/25/19 06:16 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Reality is beyond concept.  Concept robs belief.  Just buy having ego, we inherit doubt and fear, worry and concern.

What if someone got smart thoughts being high and it's not going anywhere?  Or to the unknown which is the most scary.


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    #25837419 - 02/25/19 06:24 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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in the ethnos, it's action [and in the transcendent sense of the term, as well].
in the narod, and onwards (into nations and the socium), it's object; as the conscious mind inflects itself into the in the socium or the narod, or nation, and exemplifies itself their, instead of the ethnos, instead of a reflective 'action-based language',
you get a reflexive [due the reflective nature of the mind as object turning in on itself] language.

nature is more like a verb and noun at once. what's that called?





Very interesting. Yes, I'm leaning toward a combination of both, perhaps in equal measure. Is there any known language in which this coequal combination of action and object is manifest?


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    #25837425 - 02/25/19 06:26 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Sounds interstimg.  These are hard concepts.

I'd bet math could do that.  Math is a language.  I wrote my entrance paper to get accepted to Calvin based on my theory thst math is a universal language.


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    #25837527 - 02/25/19 07:02 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Sounds interstimg.  These are hard concepts.

I'd bet math could do that.  Math is a language.  I wrote my entrance paper to get accepted to Calvin based on my theory thst math is a universal language.





Yes, math is definitely a language. So does Nature herself speak a language -- aren't atoms and forces articulate? They can mean and say infinitely much, imo. DNA is a particularly well-written work. Perhaps math is a translation of this universal language into human.


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    #25838080 - 02/25/19 11:43 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

The locus is the foci of logic..

So languages whether object or action based can indeed describe anything..

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    #25838581 - 02/26/19 08:41 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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nature is more like a verb and noun at once. what's that called?



ger·und
Dictionary result for gerund
/ˈjerənd/
nounGrammar
noun: gerund; plural noun: gerunds

    a form that is derived from a verb but that functions as a noun, in English ending in -ing, e.g., asking in do you mind my asking you?.


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