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Offlinemonolith4
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Salvia advice
    #2582876 - 04/20/04 02:57 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I have some salvia 15x extract and tried some in a bong today, as usual, I only got a stoned feeling.
I'm going to a big field near some woodland tomorrow, where I'm going to smoke enough to ensure full blown hallucinations.

I am a bit nervous of what's going to happen, but I think it will be safe without a sitter, because I would need to walk for at least 2 minutes to get near anything dangerous.

I just want any advice on how not to get scared shitless when you're on salvia??


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: monolith4]
    #2583022 - 04/20/04 03:23 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

there's nothing you can do mate.. if you can, just try and surrender to it and accept whatever you are seeing and feeling. This is nearly impossible to do though, because when it works you will feel disorientated, be unsure of where/why/when/who you are. You might come down and not fully understand why that happened until you see the bong and it slowly dawns on you..

Also, if you find it's not working, use one of those lighters that burns with a roaring blue flame, as the salvia works best with this added heat.


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: monolith4]
    #2583098 - 04/20/04 03:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Salvia advice [Re: Rob_K]
    #2583107 - 04/20/04 03:43 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

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Re: Salvia advice [Re: ]
    #2583157 - 04/20/04 03:50 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

When I did salvia(it was never 15x though) I recieved intense CEV's, with minor OEV's. Once I opened my eyes I was a little disoriented but it just felt like a real dizzy feeling and I could to an extent control what i did. I suggest closing your eyes and letting your mind take you for an insane journey.

http://www.sagewisdom.org/smokeadvice.html has a great "tutorial" on how to obtain the best effects, follow that and enjoy the ride.


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: ]
    #2583618 - 04/20/04 05:31 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

The whole 'torch lighter and keep the heat on it' thing is complete BS. Please stop spreading it. Matches can do the job perfectly.


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: Gus]
    #2583642 - 04/20/04 05:39 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Do you have any legitimate counter-arguments or evidence to refute it, Gus, or is it just Gus-deemed-BS?  :wink:


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: monolith4]
    #2585767 - 04/21/04 03:00 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

Dont milk the pipe ,the smoke must be inhaled deeply and quickly to have an effect. ?
Draw the flame down into the leaves the whole time you inhale.

If u dont have a sitter, i dont recommend matches.
Salvinorin requires high temperatures to vaporize, any flame will do, but in my experience i recommend a torch lighter


Check out Salvia userguide for more info

Have fun and be safe


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: Euphoria]
    #2588505 - 04/21/04 10:28 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

I will second Gus. crush the leaves into shake, (it should already be pretty much shake if its extract) and ready 4 bowls. Have a sitter replace the bowl after every hoot, as each hoot should be a full bowl and a full breathe and a full 30 seconds. Fire burns salvia. Matches, bic, torch or blades.


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: monolith4]
    #2589636 - 04/22/04 02:55 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

wait until you breakthrough,

then have a blackout experience.

fuckin nuts.


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: monolith4]
    #2589893 - 04/22/04 06:21 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

have a sitter
what if you decide to run
walk 2 mins from stuff is not nearly the same as having
a chum say
"sit down, where are you going, sit down"
a mad trip converts to someting wonderful


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Re: Salvia advice [Re: redgreenvines]
    #2589925 - 04/22/04 07:05 AM (13 years, 7 months ago)

a small percentage of people, do not "breakthrough" no matter how much x15 they smoke.

very interesting, considering i only need one toke, and i am HerStory.

the reason Salvia is so frightening and so HEAVY,
is because of the relation between our occipital lobe
and our generation (not perception) of gravity.


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the EFFECT [Re: Middleman]
    #2590663 - 04/22/04 12:44 PM (13 years, 7 months ago)

the heavy sensation is from "layered input."
which is the same to proprioception (body sensation) as visual trails are to vision

which is simmilar as looping sounds are to hearing
and as looping thoughts are to thinking,
finally it is the same by analogy as
all the beings we sense and our sense of self.

in all cases, the EFFECT is sustained activity from sensations (body or mind) and elongated duration of fadeout.

(I am still here as I was while I am now as I am etc. both equally real)

This yeilds a sense of greater dimension, space, reality, etc.
in fact it is because what was happenning is still happenning.
AND the bigger the dose the bigger the effect, more selves more gravity more looping more memory scenes more dimensions etc.

At some point what preceeds what is indistiguisable, and when it is prolonged we call it amnesia level.


Edited by redgreenvines (04/22/04 12:46 PM)


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