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OfflinesHrOoMeRrR420
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Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture?
    #2581834 - 04/20/04 11:10 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Hi, I would just like to know your personal favourite casing mixture.

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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #2581858 - 04/20/04 11:17 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

JIFFY MIX!
JIFFY MIX!
JIFFY MIX!
JIFFY MIX!
JIFFY MIX!


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #2581875 - 04/20/04 11:25 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

60 / 40 coco coir verm :thumbup: works great!


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #2581940 - 04/20/04 11:49 AM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This was my first time doing this thing and mycellium just came up in 2 days!  I used 50/50 dehydrated organic dung and miracle gro aqua coir....  I wonder if I should have pasteurized the dung or if it was ok to use.  I think that's mycellium!  hehe :cool:


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #2582068 - 04/20/04 12:24 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

verm.

of jiffy.


lol when you get fancy it seems to get contaminated easily. :gd_icon:

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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #2582079 - 04/20/04 12:28 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

my foaf's fav:
70/30 coir/verm
always!


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: muse_sick]
    #2582758 - 04/20/04 02:35 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

coir/verm 70/30


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: Gr0wer]
    #2582767 - 04/20/04 02:36 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

peat/vermiculite/limestone flour
60/30/10


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: Anno]
    #2583688 - 04/20/04 05:57 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

PRO-MOSS TBK blond fibruous sphagnum moss, adjusted with CaO.

Works god damned miracles.


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: Derek]
    #2583796 - 04/20/04 06:34 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

Wow, derek, wtf are u talking about.

hehe, im jus playin but really.. what is that casing mixture ur talkin about. and does anyone else have input on it?


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: t3knology]
    #2583866 - 04/20/04 07:05 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

http://www.premierhort.com/website/products/aproducts/aprodprof/aprodpropmoss/afpromossproff.html

You haven't seen casings work like they should untill you've seen this stuff in action. The mycelium goes into a rhizo frenzy and then pins like a mofo. Its beautiful to watch.

Stays humid, not wet, and has perfect porosity. I can't sing its praises enough.


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #2583991 - 04/20/04 07:46 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

coir/verm 75/25


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #2584331 - 04/20/04 09:41 PM (13 years, 5 months ago)

This is cool. I'm about to do my first casing.
Lost in info overload. Lot of shit on this subject.
From what I 've read in the last two months most  use coir/verm but that very's from 50/50 to 75/25 an all the inbetweens.
Maybe has something to with the type of shroom?I don't know.
All you pro's. Tell what you use.
Us newbie's would like to know.
Thanks :mushroom2: :mushroom2: :mushroom2:


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: KaptKid]
    #2629041 - 05/02/04 09:44 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

curious about the pro-moss mixture. What tek is used for casing?
This sounds really great, but afoaf has only cased once, so advice is needed and appreciated.
thanks


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: sHrOoMeRrR420]
    #2629725 - 05/03/04 12:13 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Well...

This is overkill, but it works for me:

First, I start off with a 33/33/33 mix of peat/verm/coir. I like the peat because it's so dammed airy and fluffy when moistened just right. The verm provides moisture, and the coir provides more moisture and contributes to the airiness. It also distinctly changes color when dry, so I get a really good visual indicator of when it's time to mist without having to touch the casing.

Next, I add 15% by volume crushed oyster shells. As mycelium metabolism progresses, it releases acids that drive the pH of the casing down. The crushed oyster shells both add a rough, open texture to the casing, and over time, they dissolve and gently counter the mycelium's acid secretions. They help to stabilize (buffer) the casing's pH over time.

The next thing I add to the casing material is 5% by volume diatomaceous earth to keep any flies, worms, eggs, and miscellaneous bugs from making a home in my casings. DE is the fossilized skeletons of siliceous marine and fresh water organisms, particularly diatoms and other algae. These skeletons are made of hydrated amorphous silica or opal. The particles are actually very tiny, sharp shards so small that the material feels like talcum powder. This is easily picked up by the hairy bodies of most insects where it scratches through their body causing a rapid loss of moisture; the insects dry up and die.

DE is harmless to humans, though I'd avoid breathing it, and is frequently added to grain on farms to protect it from insects. You can get it at any well-stocked aquarium store; it's used to filter water.

Once all those dry ingredients are mixed well, I spray on enough water to thoroughly moisten but not quite reach field capacity. It takes a really hard squeeze to get a drop of water.

At this point, I measure the pH with a pH meter. The peat will normally drop the pH below optimum, which for cubies is 6.8 to 7.2. I add a tiny bit of hydrated lime (.25 teaspoon/liter of casing) and measure the pH again. I repeat until the pH reaches about 7.5. This is slightly out of the optimal range, but the mycelium quickly drives the pH down into the optimal range even with the buffering provided by the crushed oyster shells. Be careful with hydrated lime. It's very strong and a tiny amount will go a long way. It will also cause you a lot of grief if you get it on your hands and touch your eyes. Treat it with respect! You can also use limestone flour; it's far less potent so you'll have to use more to get the same effect on the pH. By the way, don't ever use dolomitic lime. It has too-high a concentration of magnesium which has been shown to retard pin formation.

When I'm happy with the pH and moisture, I pasteurize for a few minutes in the microwave in case there were some undetected little critters in my peat, then I let it cool, check the moisture and pH one last time, and case.

:mushroom2: Hope this makes sense...

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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: Anno]
    #2629753 - 05/03/04 12:18 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

Anno is it a special type limestone or just the type that is sold at gardening centers?


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: OldSpice]
    #2630991 - 05/03/04 09:54 AM (13 years, 4 months ago)

nope, its just standard calcium carbonate  :thumbup:


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: MoNk]
    #2631599 - 05/03/04 01:41 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

can you get by with just plan peat (from the garden sotre) - the kind you mix into pots to keep it light and hold moisture.


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Re: Whats YOUR favourite casing mixture? [Re: mrjim202000]
    #2631995 - 05/03/04 03:30 PM (13 years, 4 months ago)

I love peat/verm/lime, 60/30/10, it works awesome, and yes Peat from the garden store is the kind you want, just make sure it doesnt have humus.


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