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Re: Coca growers [Re: JayWise]
#25803931 - 02/10/19 02:44 PM (5 years, 1 month ago) |
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What about those 'bioline' sachets? Are those predatory mites, and if so, which ones are you using? I was thinking about getting something similar but I'm unsure about its effectiveness.
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Re: Coca growers [Re: JayWise]
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I find it interesting that my novo plants haven’t flowered this winter like they have in past winters. Maybe it’s because I’ve been harvesting leaves all winter. I’m looking forward to spring and scaling up pot size. Hopefully the bumble bees will return to pollinate my flowers like last year.
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JizzMasterZero said: I find it interesting that my novo plants haven’t flowered this winter like they have in past winters. Maybe it’s because I’ve been harvesting leaves all winter.
My Erythroxylum spp. plants were slowly losing all of their leaves again a while ago. It's a recurring phenomenon, but they always grow back with a vengeance. What I found interesting is that my E. novogranatense were still pushing out flowers, even though they were loosing leaves. At one time they had a couple dozen flowers while there were only a couple of leaves left.
Occasionally a flower gets pollinated and a berry starts to develop, but it never fully matures. I guess the plants are still too small. That's why I never bother hand pollinating them.
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I sent out some seeds, but I was really slack in doing so. Some were even getting a fungal growth. I doubt they sprouted, but we will see what happens this spring. My bushes are ready to go into much larger pots, I expect lots of growth and flowers this summer and to be able to have a sustainable harvest.
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They're self-fertile, but I have gotten better rates with multiple plants.
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JizzMasterZero said: I find it interesting that my novo plants haven’t flowered this winter like they have in past winters. Maybe it’s because I’ve been harvesting leaves all winter.
My Erythroxylum spp. plants were slowly losing all of their leaves again a while ago. It's a recurring phenomenon, but they always grow back with a vengeance. What I found interesting is that my E. novogranatense were still pushing out flowers, even though they were loosing leaves. At one time they had a couple dozen flowers while there were only a couple of leaves left.
Occasionally a flower gets pollinated and a berry starts to develop, but it never fully matures. I guess the plants are still too small. That's why I never bother hand pollinating them.
Indeed mine do it a couple time a year drop all leaves and just when you think its not coming back after a few weeks of looking like a dead twig it sprout beautiful bright green sprouts all over.
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wiki has an interesting article about the alkaloid contents of coca plants
there is one new 'supercoca' named Boliviana negra is a relatively new form (2004) of coca that is resistant to a herbicide called glyphosate... and has supposedly a 4x higher alkaloid content.
Traditional Coca Plants: Source plant(s) Erythroxylum coca var. coca, Erythroxylum coca var. ipadu, Erythroxylum novogranatense var. novogranatense, Erythroxylum novogranatense var. truxillense
with alkaloid content of coca leaves between 0.25% and 0.77%.
is the Boliviana negra spread widely across colombia these days or is this spread in smaller areas? there is barely any data about this online.
someone can confirm the alkaloid content is really at ~4% and more of the Boliviana negra?
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JizzMasterZero said: I find it interesting that my novo plants haven’t flowered this winter like they have in past winters. Maybe it’s because I’ve been harvesting leaves all winter.
My Erythroxylum spp. plants were slowly losing all of their leaves again a while ago. It's a recurring phenomenon, but they always grow back with a vengeance. What I found interesting is that my E. novogranatense were still pushing out flowers, even though they were loosing leaves. At one time they had a couple dozen flowers while there were only a couple of leaves left.
Occasionally a flower gets pollinated and a berry starts to develop, but it never fully matures. I guess the plants are still too small. That's why I never bother hand pollinating them.
Indeed mine do it a couple time a year drop all leaves and just when you think its not coming back after a few weeks of looking like a dead twig it sprout beautiful bright green sprouts all over.
Has anyone tried using the electric shaver method like u do with tomatos or cucumbers for pollination
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NaturalCooking said: wiki has an interesting article about the alkaloid contents of coca plants
there is one new 'supercoca' named Boliviana negra is a relatively new form (2004) of coca that is resistant to a herbicide called glyphosate... and has supposedly a 4x higher alkaloid content.
Traditional Coca Plants: Source plant(s) Erythroxylum coca var. coca, Erythroxylum coca var. ipadu, Erythroxylum novogranatense var. novogranatense, Erythroxylum novogranatense var. truxillense
with alkaloid content of coca leaves between 0.25% and 0.77%.
is the Boliviana negra spread widely across colombia these days or is this spread in smaller areas? there is barely any data about this online.
someone can confirm the alkaloid content is really at ~4% and more of the Boliviana negra?
I have a steady supply of var coca and truxillense. I must say trux is stronger as far potency goes.
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JizzMasterZero said: I find it interesting that my novo plants haven’t flowered this winter like they have in past winters. Maybe it’s because I’ve been harvesting leaves all winter.
My Erythroxylum spp. plants were slowly losing all of their leaves again a while ago. It's a recurring phenomenon, but they always grow back with a vengeance. What I found interesting is that my E. novogranatense were still pushing out flowers, even though they were loosing leaves. At one time they had a couple dozen flowers while there were only a couple of leaves left.
Occasionally a flower gets pollinated and a berry starts to develop, but it never fully matures. I guess the plants are still too small. That's why I never bother hand pollinating them.
Indeed mine do it a couple time a year drop all leaves and just when you think its not coming back after a few weeks of looking like a dead twig it sprout beautiful bright green sprouts all over.
Has anyone tried using the electric shaver method like u do with tomatos or cucumbers for pollination
Ive done it a few times with the the stem of a leaf i can physically see the pollen on the stem i use then brush it on the stigma/stamen whatever its called cant remember until i see the pollen is stuck on it. They usually always start to turn to berries but always seem to drop off before reaching maturity.
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do fresh coca leaves lose parts of their alkaloids if dried in the oven?
is air drying the leaves the best way to conserve all the nutritional values?
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NaturalCooking said: do fresh coca leaves lose parts of their alkaloids if dried in the oven?
is air drying the leaves the best way to conserve all the nutritional values?
Traditionally they air dry them in the sun, in Amazon when making mambe, they toast the leaves.
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I would use a dehydrator
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mrmazdarx9 said: I would use a dehydrator
I read the alkaloids get damaged if a too high temperature is used. Anyone has an exact max temperature for drying?
a dehydrator is limited to a small amount of leaves only.
air drying is the most recommended to keep the alkaloids undamaged?
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Set it on low, a dehydrator is hot air drying i doubt youd lose that much if any using a dehydrator. Why are you drying anyway planning on an extraction? If so you should have that much weight of leaf matter that it wont matter. The chance for mold setting in is also much lower. Ive found with most things the longer it takes to remove moisture from plant matter or mushrooms too the more potency loss you have. I dehydrated my leaves took a very short amount of time use them for making tea and they seem to be much better than fresh leaves they seem to soak up the water and squish out the goodness much more easily. Never noticed any issues with potency.
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I use my food dehydrator to dry the mushrooms and that gets them cracker dry without any potency loss, I imagine it be the same for coca leaves.
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PsychoReactive said: I use my food dehydrator to dry the mushrooms and that gets them cracker dry without any potency loss, I imagine it be the same for coca leaves.
Thats why I decided to try mine and found it to be easier for making tea, and like I said didnt notice any difference.
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Hello folks! Tis the season and I'm LF some berries and then I'll be posting my pics. First attempt at this didn't go so well.
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FungiFractals said: Hello folks! Tis the season and I'm LF some berries and then I'll be posting my pics. First attempt at this didn't go so well.
I am seriously suspecting that one of my things is truxillense or trujillo everything indicates that sentrata of a plant or variety within the species novageanatense It has long leaves. some rough and has no side veins
On the other hand I have returned to have eri seeds I calculate that 1,000 or more seeds are I feed them in my garden because I chew about 30 grams a day
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