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I don't see people from the West illegally forcing themselves into other nations

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What an ignorant comment.

The Ecstatic said:

Don’t hurt yourself moving those goalposts.


Either violent rhetoric can used to justify violence or it can’t.

If you’re gonna blame ISIS for quarantining an entire continent of innocent people on the basis they share a religion, I’m pretty sure we can blame Donald Trump for a mass shooter who literally shouts out Donald Trump in his anti immigrant manifesto.

But why would I ever expect consistency from you?

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The Ecstatic said:

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I don't see people from the West illegally forcing themselves into other nations

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What an ignorant comment.

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qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

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I don't see people from the West illegally forcing themselves into other nations

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What an ignorant comment.

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Because you can't see the distinction between government sponsored military operations and millions of migrants invading another nation. Apples and oranges.

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qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

Don’t hurt yourself moving those goalposts.


Either violent rhetoric can used to justify violence or it can’t.

If you’re gonna blame ISIS for quarantining an entire continent of innocent people on the basis they share a religion, I’m pretty sure we can blame Donald Trump for a mass shooter who literally shouts out Donald Trump in his anti immigrant manifesto.

But why would I ever expect consistency from you?

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"violent rhetoric"

Can you give an example of Trump using this "violent rhetoric"?  You do realize asking for better controls over immigration isn't justifying violence?

I got news for you guys, if Trump didn't exist these horrible events would still be occurring. Those events happened before Trump and will happen after Trump leaves the political world.

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koods said:

The right wing terror machine has cranked up it’s violence since trump was elected.

I know you people don’t like to admit this because it makes you look bad.

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The Ecstatic said:

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

Don’t hurt yourself moving those goalposts.


Either violent rhetoric can used to justify violence or it can’t.

If you’re gonna blame ISIS for quarantining an entire continent of innocent people on the basis they share a religion, I’m pretty sure we can blame Donald Trump for a mass shooter who literally shouts out Donald Trump in his anti immigrant manifesto.

But why would I ever expect consistency from you?

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"violent rhetoric"

Can you give an example of Trump using this "violent rhetoric"?  You do realize asking for better controls over immigration isn't justifying violence?

I got news for you guys, if Trump didn't exist these horrible events would still be occurring. Those events happened before Trump and will happen after Trump leaves the political world.

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Yes I can give examples.

Also, that isn’t news, it’s just totally sidestepping the point.

If Islam didn’t exist we’d still have terrorism. But that’s irrelevant to a discussion of whether the migrant crisis yields Islamic terrorism, isn’t it? Hint: yes.

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qman said:

koods said:

The right wing terror machine has cranked up it’s violence since trump was elected.

I know you people don’t like to admit this because it makes you look bad.

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Even if the violence has increased since Trump, it's difficult to find a direct correlation to him because it's obviously a very complex set of circumstances taking place in the world today.

In fact, one could make a very good case that the increase in violence could be attributed to Obama and his constant use of identity politics.

Trump is just the result of the PC cultural backlash, if it wasn't him it would likely be someone else filling the void.

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pineninja said:

qman said:

koods said:

The right wing terror machine has cranked up it’s violence since trump was elected.

I know you people don’t like to admit this because it makes you look bad.

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Even if the violence has increased since Trump, it's difficult to find a direct correlation to him because it's obviously a very complex set of circumstances taking place in the world today.

In fact, one could make a very good case that the increase in violence could be attributed to Obama and his constant use of identity politics.

Trump is just the result of the PC cultural backlash, if it wasn't him it would likely be someone else filling the void.

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Climate change denial copy paste.

Even if it cannot be solely attributed to him, can you bring yourself to a place where you can admit that he (leader of free world)  is not helping.

Is it crazy to suggest that he may be hesitant to say and stand for what he should... so as he does not lose his base/Everything.

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Yes, I definitely can admit that Trump isn't helping with the desired unity most of us are seeking. Can you admit he isn't potentially making it worse?

"stand for what he should"

Which is what exactly?  I'll mention what very few are afraid to say, if his base doesn't have some representation in politics, it will get much more ugly. One could even make the case that Trump is maintaining the peace considering the identity politics, PC rules and forced illegal immigration on his base.

If you think demonizing his base and spewing identity politics is going to bring unity by shaming his supporters away, you're sadly mistaken.

qman said:

The Ecstatic said:

That hasn’t stopped you from shitting yourself over Muslim hordes for the past 4 years

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I don't give a fuck what Muslims do in Muslim nations, that's the whole point, isn't it. 

I don't see people from the West illegally forcing themselves into other nations to make a new homeland for themselves despite the fact the native population doesn't want them because of the social-economic imbalances it brings to their homeland.

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Keep that rage in check broseph.

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Which is what exactly?  I'll mention what very few are afraid to say, if his base doesn't have some representation in politics, it will get much more ugly. One could even make the case that Trump is maintaining the peace considering the identity politics, PC rules and forced illegal immigration on his base.

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Stable Genius said:

Violent rhetoric? Ok.

https://m.huffpost.com/us/entry/us_5c8bb977e4b0db7da9f29e07/amp

https://www.latimes.com/politics/la-na-trump-campaign-protests-20160313-story.html

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/post-nation/wp/2017/07/28/trump-tells-police-not-to-worry-about-injuring-suspects-during-arrests/?noredirect=on&utm_term=.0368b7820b0e

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SirTripAlot said:

Hey, it's Trumps fault those Muslims over the pond got KIA. If only Trumps rhetoric would stop mass shootings.

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Of course, Trump made some distasteful comments 2-3 years ago, so he's responsible for all mass shootings by white people.