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Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms * 1
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Hi guys I'm just asking for a friend since he asked me if it's possible to astral project on high mushroom doses? I'm also abit curious myself

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: RoastedWafflez] * 1
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High/low/nun
It just depends on if you'll let yourself


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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: XnMe] * 2
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If your talking about can you get blasted into space. Well hell yes! Doses dont have to be crazy high either. I have become a sperm swimming throughout the galaxy on 4 grams. Tho its worth pointing out i have also eaten 5 grams and just felt anxious and uncomfortable, but more often than not in my experience. Its more=more.

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: Bph] * 2
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No it isn't possible because it isn't possible ever, under any circumstances or conditions. Astral projection isn't a real thing.


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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: MrCraggles] * 2
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MrCraggles said:
No it isn't possible because it isn't possible ever, under any circumstances or conditions. Astral projection isn't a real thing.


You heard the man. Move along, nothing to see here

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: mendocino_beano] * 2
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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: MaxRebo] * 1
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Seriously though how is astral projection not ‘real’. Are dreams not real either?

I get if you’re saying the person can’t literally project to a real place in reality and count a cup of beans or something, but astral projection is as real as anything else you might experience with that kind of intensity. Just because you can’t see my dreams doesn’t mean they’re not real.

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: mendocino_beano] * 2
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Ive had dreams predict the future and warn me about things. And then they actually happen and I avoid the consequences.

And mushrooms have enhanced my dreams. My dad took a microdose of mushrooms and then a week later he was able to smell in his dreams for the first time. When I was doing mushrooms weekly I was having these sort of dreams all the time.


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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: RoastedWafflez] * 2
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There's an interesting section on lucid dreams in "The Ego Tunnel" by  Thomas Metzinger (philosopher / cognitive scientist) where he starts off by describing a personal experience of spiraling out of his physical body and later returning to it, at the same time being aware he was dreaming.

There's also another section on OBEs which doesn't specifically mention astral projection but is clearly talking about the same idea in terms of the 'subtle body' and so on. In his scheme of ideas it is the existence of the brain's own self-model that allows these types of phenomena to occur: one of the themes of the book (and of other books on current neuroscientific thinking) is that the same brain mechanisms that simulate our body and our reality for us can also hallucinate us out of our body or into a different (hallucinatory) reality. Which is where the psychedelics come into the picture.

A video by SWIM (Psyched Substance) on Youtube also links Astral Projection and lucid dreaming:

Is Astral Projection JUST Lucid Dreaming?


I like this guy's videos (although youtube deleted quite a few due to their drug content).

Anyway, I assume your friend is asking if shrooms will give hallucinations along the lines of 'astral projection' rather than wanting to know if the phenomena is literally true in the paranormal sense.

I wouldn't expect to get this kind of hallucination on shrooms and I never have, but I'd be hesitant to say it couldn't happen. People do report the more general category of 'out of body experiences' when tripping; I assume the difference is that with astral projection you are able to deliberately move around and go places instead of just, say, floating near the ceiling.

:owl:

I think when tripping on shrooms you are less likely to 'travel' out into a hallucination of the normal world, and much more likely to journey inwards, either into your CEV (it can feel like you are moving around in there like a theme-park ride in a vast 3D space) or into the weirdness of a more visionary state (think of those films where a character stares mystically into the middle distance and the film cuts to a vision taking place within his/her mind).

Something quite strange occured on a recent trip where (with eyes closed) I felt as though I was rising up into the sky, not in the real world but inside the trip, with some strange blue whale-like lifeforms I could see in my CEV. It was odd to get the sensation of movement inside my CEV but it does happen to me sometimes.

:aweshift:

Mushroom trips can be very strange and there's a broader category of 'weird shit that happens when you are tripping'. I find it's quite common to be in a kind of visionary trance where on the one hand you are aware of lying in bed, but your mind seems to be voyaging somewhere else in a sort of dreamlike state. I remember one trip where I felt like part of my consciousness was hurtling back towards me through space and I wasn't sure what would happen when it collided with earth. In another trip I had a dreamlike experience of being outside the rim of the known universe and fighting with aliens. There was nothing realistic or particularly lucid about the experience, it was just the stupid mindfuck of a heavy trip - Tentacles & Time-Travel on 42g sclerotia - welcome to EUROPA

I guess my main point would be to say that you are more likely to travel into your hallucinations in some sense, as the real world becomes a lot less real during a trip. :peace:


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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: Aldebaran] * 1
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It or other similar stages are purported to happen with LSD, or weed, and even mushrooms can do it, DMT does something similar to it. You're supposed to work hard with meditation or lucid dreams for it, not take psychedelics as a shortcut or it won't really count (from my experience, could be different for each person, from what I hear or can tell).

That being said you're looking at remote viewing or like going back to your childhood (possibly). Sometimes it's just piecing things together after having experienced multiple events. DMT allows you to experience, if you don't get the full experience with mushrooms, it might not really be that visual. Or, you won't be able to tell if you're dreaming or not, which generally isn't a good thing.

Mushrooms should just make you tired and almost pass out, while your mind is stil there. You won't really be able to move that much, and you have to gauge the potency and basically measure out the dose. DMT does it automatically, and makes your body enter a sleep like state or feel like it's about to die. Then you can't move, and won't really be able to tell if your eyes are open or closed.

With LSD it happens in waves, and you could lapse in and out of consciousness, or keep blacking out and not even be able to tell. High enough doses give you a story like vision that goes on for hours, not as visually insane as DMT, and more so has recognizable objects for representation. Its regular CEVs last shorter, and are mexican/jester like, also with dancing motifs. I think that's the main difference between mushrooms and acid, psilocybin is more DMT like in terms of visuals, and LSD is more mushroom like, but seems more analytical, or computer programming like. It might have like "less visual distortion". DMT just does it automatically and comes on like a tornavalanche.


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Edited by Blabble40 (02/10/19 02:22 PM)

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: RoastedWafflez] * 1
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I don't know whether mushrooms are helpful in achieving astral projection ( because I have never tried them yet ) , but I surely know that some specific herbs can help you in that. The herbs I like the most are mugwort, lemon balm, Valerian root, Huckleberry, and Thyme. Besides some of these herbs are used as a treatment for certain neurological, cardiovascular and gastrointestinal tract diseases ( for example, lemon balm , Valerian root or mugwort plant are used for treating hypertension, neurosis, coronary heart disease, flatulence, dysbacteriosis, neuralgia, insomnia and so on ) , they also have  remarkable taste and  odour if using them as a tea or essential oil. Some of these herbs I‘ve bought here https://astralplane.com/astral-projection-herbs/. I recommend. You won’t be disappointed with its efficacy.

Edited by Cyaerislea (08/01/21 01:36 PM)

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: Cyaerislea] * 1
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The only time I ever AP'd was on a trip. It was a short lived experience because I was tripping balls and couldn't contain myself.

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: subzero] * 1
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Astral projection is real and I have experienced it on mushrooms. Only once though. A piece of my consciousness wondered if I was having a dream that was occurring just a few feet in front of me. It felt like I was dreaming and my dream was occurring 2 feet in front of my body, but it wasn't a dream. I was walking when it started, immediately looked for someplace to lie down, and I descended into total ego disintegration.

Edited by PGwojowski (07/08/21 03:17 AM)

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: RoastedWafflez] * 1
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RoastedWafflez said:
Hi guys I'm just asking for a friend since he asked me if it's possible to astral project on high mushroom doses? I'm also abit curious myself


Yes. The ego is the glue that holds everything together so once the ego has been subdued the spirit is revealed.
 
Mushrooms can subdue the ego easily on higher doses. That is their magic.

Without the ego to stand guard the spirit comes loose. Perhaps it stays near the body as it is apt to do. Or perhaps it roams the galaxies at will. It is you. It sees without the aid of the physical eye. It simply registers.


As the ego is no where to be found, the spirit roams without thought and without bodily desires. I don't know how long it stays in this state or if it can then pass onto an even higher state as in after death. There is a sense of void.

It is distinct from all other trips. You will know it when it happens. If it happens. This happened to me just once out of hundreds of trips after experimenting with some lemon tek brews.

Edited by wolfman42 (07/08/21 04:33 PM)

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: wolfman42] * 2
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Hmmm sounds all fishy in here. A lot of assumptions and bold claims.

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: LosTresOjos] * 1
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LosTresOjos said:
Hmmm sounds all fishy in here. A lot of assumptions and bold claims.


Of course. There is a bold assumption in the question itself. It presupposes the existence of Astral Projection.


But this is a site about Psychedelics with a focus on the psychedelic Mushroom experience, of which Astral Projection and other realities are an integral part. All one has to do is read a few trip reports to see the evidence of this. 

Whatever one's belief in that regard, the experience makes no claims about anything., nor does the OP or any of the others. They are stating what they believe and answering the question as asked. Take what you want or take nothing at all. To some it seems self evident. To some it does not.


If you want Science then https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov has plenty of resources as does main stream media on the usage of Magic Mushrooms in a lab using classical western terminology to describe the experience.

Charvaka, an ancient Hindu philosophy, also espoused Materialism and the Senses above all else. They were men of the world. Nothing wrong with that.


But the Spiritual is another aspect of existence. It will always be a part of the Material narrative. Whether one wants to believe in it or not.

Having any spirituality or faith necessarily involves some 'big assumptions and bold claims.'

Edited by wolfman42 (07/08/21 04:32 PM)

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: LosTresOjos] * 2
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I’m not really sure what you mean by astral projection so I’m going to make a fool of myself here :cookiemonster:

Is it out of body? I had that a year or so ago on fresh Mazatapeca. It must have been the high psilocin content of the fresh mushrooms or something trip really kicked in by 20 minutes and by 40 minutes I was out of my body floating through clouds. It was a blissful experience that just got better for 3 hours, then stopped within 30 minutes :cookiemonster:

DJ Ed


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Michael Pollan: How To Change Your Mind

“The problem is not to find the answer, it’s to face the answer.”
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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: DJ Ed] * 3
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DJ Ed said:
I’m not really sure what you mean by astral projection so I’m going to make a fool of myself here :cookiemonster:

Is it out of body? I had that a year or so ago on fresh Mazatapeca. It must have been the high psilocin content of the fresh mushrooms or something trip really kicked in by 20 minutes and by 40 minutes I was out of my body floating through clouds. It was a blissful experience that just got better for 3 hours, then stopped within 30 minutes :cookiemonster:

DJ Ed


DJ ed beat me to it.
I'll be vauge to prevent giving details that were not ment for you but for me. Kinda like how people expect to see machine elves then complain they didn't have the same experience that was ment for "someone else" per-say.
If ya mean being in a mystical place or having a powerful vison were you no longer are looking through your own eye sockets let alone identify as "you", than yeah, but rarely. I've found sometimes ya catch that wave; most times ya don't. It's happened on as little as 3.5g up to an unspeakable amount.
I have left expectations behind, most times I trip :unimpressed: If I'm lucky, I wake up the next morning going.  :whattefuck2:

Remember all our organs are there to power the one organ that uses over 72% of all our energy to experience consciousness, our brain. We got powerful processor behind our eyes.
Handle with care. :vibin:


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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: wolfman42] * 1
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Wolf, what exactly do you mean by spirituality? Faith is a belief based on no evidence so I'm not sure how one could use that for anything. But I'm curious about your ideas on spirituality.

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Re: Is it possible to undergo astral projection on mushrooms [Re: LosTresOjos] * 1
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LosTresOjos said:
Wolf, what exactly do you mean by spirituality? Faith is a belief based on no evidence so I'm not sure how one could use that for anything. But I'm curious about your ideas on spirituality.


Anything related to the Spirit. Its existence. What it is. How it relates to the world. How it relates to us. How it relates to God.

All scientific discovery starts out as imagination without evidence. It is only later that evidence is gained.

And what evidence does anyone have on such things such as Spirit or God? One has only their direct experience.

That is the very nature of faith. It does not stand on the intellect or evidence, it stands on belief in unprovable truths about the nature of reality and existence.

Answers which Science may never have -- will probably never have.


Science is not equipped to deal with matters of consciousness, awareness or spirit. It is not equipped to deal with matters of God. The very nature of such things is that they are not directly observable.


If the scriptures and ancient texts are to be believed then the Spirit(ual) is a more fundamental world to the Material. All texts point to other worlds, astral realms, and planes of existence.

It is about what you believe. Some people believe Astral projection is real whether is can be proved by Science or not.

Edited by wolfman42 (07/09/21 07:29 AM)

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