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Take the time
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There is all the time in the world.

So I'm gonna take my time.

You too.

... not an all encompassing description of time, just a particular mode that can be chosen when a particular change of mode is needed. You can't just flip a switch any time you need to. Or can you?

I'm gonna take my time.


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comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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And what becomes of Time? We invest it.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Buster_Brown]
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I'm not sure I take your meaning, or that you take mine. Or perhaps you understand me and I not you.

Mine relates to anxiety and being in a hurry.


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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Rahz said:
I'm not sure I take your meaning, or that you take mine. Or perhaps you understand me and I not you.

Mine relates to anxiety and being in a hurry.


There's similarities: Need time/Take time; Need money/Take money; Invest money to make more money...etc. Social Security for example requires you to file for 10 years before you can get a return. Taking the time without having invested in the security of living in the manner you have grown accustomed to may well prove to be a higher index on the anxiety scale.

Perhaps if one were a Buddhist living in an agrarian society one could get by in the countryside with an alms bowl.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
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Understood. Relating to anxiety, taking time could result in getting more done. By taking time I don't mean doing nothing, but rather a mental attitude of not rushing ones self but going at a pace one is comfortable with. It is the ceasing of a process in which thoughts about one's anxiety create more anxiety. Instead of being in a hurry to rid ones self of the source of anxiety, accepting how one feels at the moment and not making assumptions about the next moment or tomorrow or next week is useful.


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz] * 1
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My take on it: Everything needs to get done. Everything is going to get done, but everything is not going to get done today. But something has to. Always progress, never hurry.


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Re: Take the time [Re: MadValley]
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MadValley said:
My take on it: Everything needs to get done. Everything is going to get done, but everything is not going to get done today. But something has to. Always progress, never hurry.


:thumbup:

Wanting a thing to happen before it's time.

Or maybe to be contrary, wanting a thing to be done that may or may not happen. Everything that will get done, will get done. If something may not or does not get done one should be okay with that.

Not getting the job after the interview for instance.


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz] * 1
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[image]via Imgflip Meme Generator[/image]

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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Rahz said:
:thumbup:

Wanting a thing to happen before it's time.

Or maybe to be contrary, wanting a thing to be done that may or may not happen. Everything that will get done, will get done. If something may not or does not get done one should be okay with that.

Not getting the job after the interview for instance.


I know what you mean. I started looking at things that were causing stress and anxiety like: There's a place in Time where what I'm worrying about is already in the past. Since I'm not stressing about it Then all I need to do is get to that point in Time. It's not really fatalistic as Now I still don't know what will have happened Then. But I do know that what I worried about now - like a job interview - is over, finished, and set in the past.


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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz] * 2
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If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that there ain't really any goddamn hurry.


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Re: Take the time [Re: DividedQuantum]
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17.25 million or 5% of the U.S population, who have concealed carry permits, apparently agree that there are occasions where haste is precipitated.

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Re: Take the time [Re: DividedQuantum]
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DividedQuantum said:
If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that there ain't really any goddamn hurry.


:jah:


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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz] * 2
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time is an event,

and the event is you.

we are literally time.

when our own truths rule our event

time dilatation takes place

and here death happens.


the truth has a beginning and an end.



Edited by thealienthatategod (02/06/19 06:13 PM)

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Re: Take the time [Re: thealienthatategod]
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'When our own truths rule our event time gets stretched beyond normal dimensions'?

I guess you're referencing time dilation thru heightened awareness brought on by excitement.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Buster_Brown]
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From "Being Time"

The Zen master (Yueh-shan) says: "Standing on the peak of a high mountain is uji. Diving to the bottom of the deep ocean is uji. The one with three heads and eight arms is uji. He who stands one jo and six or eight s haku is uji. The staff and hossu are uji. The pillar and lamp are uji. You and your neighbor are uji. The great earth and vast sky are uji." This uji means that time is existence and that all existence is time.

The golden body of one jo six shaku is time. Because it is time, there are the ornaments and lights of time. So we must study the 12 hours confronting us. It is time that draws out the body with three heads and eight arms. Because it is time, it interpenetrates with the present 12 hours. Though we have not yet measured the span of 12 hours, we call it 12 hours. Because time's transit leaves traces, man does not doubt it. Though he does not doubt, he does not understand. Because the ordinary man does not think from the deep ground, he of course doubts all things that he does not fully understand. For this reason, his future doubts never harmonize with his present doubts. And even doubt is nothing but a part of time.

There is no world without this doubting self, for this self is the world itself. We must look on everything in this world as time. Each thing stands in unimpeded relation just as each moment stands unimpeded. Therefore, (from the standpoint of time) the desire for enlightenment arises spontaneously; (from the standpoint of mind) time arises with the same mind. This applies also to training and enlightenment. Thus we see by entering within: the self is time itself.

http://www.thezensite.com/ZenTeachings/Dogen_Teachings/Uji.htm


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I didn't draw this.

"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
:heart:

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Re: Take the time [Re: life is good]
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What's this "I cannot change my fate by speaking". Are words just so much fluff?

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Re: Take the time [Re: Buster_Brown]
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the elemental Alien Constants: Velocity, Force, Acceleration,  Momentum,  they represent a due course of action in Bullets, as well as [Alien Elements] (ie, Xeno-properties, or, "Other").
the fifth element is an obfuscated one that I can seemingly only define as 'Movement'.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Buster_Brown said:
What's this "I cannot change my fate by speaking". Are words just so much fluff?


Good question.


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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Apparently it's in women's best interest to appear fluffy, attractive, desirable and irreplaceable, so that's how they invest their time.

Edited by Buster_Brown (02/07/19 05:18 AM)

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Re: Take the time [Re: Buster_Brown] * 1
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a good time for women?


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Re: Take the time [Re: redgreenvines]
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If a guilt complex will interfere with scientific discussion then, as the saying goes, perhaps the best form of government is a triumvate - two of whoms  members are absent.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Buster_Brown]
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It's a bit of a mis-quote actually.





“Whatever is destined not to happen will not happen, try as you may. Whatever is destined to happen will happen, do what you may to prevent it. This is certain. The best course, therefore, is to remain silent.”
― Ramana Maharshi




No thanks about Dogen?

Such as, thanks, that's such a cool piece by Dogen?


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I didn't draw this.

"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
:heart:

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Re: Take the time [Re: life is good]
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I think the content of both those quotes is mistaken when destiny is manipulated by words.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Buster_Brown]
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Buster_Brown said:
'When our own truths rule our event time gets stretched beyond normal dimensions'?

I guess you're referencing time dilation thru heightened awareness brought on by excitement.


Time dilation, in physics is the concept about changes in the passage of time

when time is defined by the dictionary,

as an event,

the individual human being the event,

then the changes occur to us

since we are time.

if we can accept that the changes to our timeline are perfect,

we allow  the space that we occupy to be how it's meant to be...perfect.

each dimension is created by you

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Re: Take the time [Re: life is good]
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Quote:
“Whatever is destined not to happen will not happen, try as you may. Whatever is destined to happen will happen, do what you may to prevent it. This is certain. The best course, therefore, is to remain silent.”
― Ramana Maharshi



This is typical Eastern mysticism gobbledygook. It is a circular statement meaning nothing.


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Re: Take the time [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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More Gone.

Actually --

'True silence is really endless speech.'

'Silence is most powerful. Speech is always less powerful than silence.'


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I didn't draw this.

"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
:heart:

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Re: Take the time [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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http://www.wisdomofchopra.com/


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Re: Take the time [Re: life is good]
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Quote:
Speech is always less powerful than silence.


Now convey that same message without speaking/writing. :lipsrsealed:


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Re: Take the time [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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I sent you guys a message with my mind, did you get it?

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Re: Take the time [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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if you have your mind blown while immature or stupid then circular arguments can stick with you like old bubblegum.

still it's no excuse for repeating Ramana Maharshi


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Re: Take the time [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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sprinkles said:
I love you asante.  "I used to repel people and now I attract them." repel  :lolsy:

whats this secret to repelling them?  I want to know



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I didn't draw this.

"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
:heart:

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Re: Take the time [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
if you have your mind blown while immature or stupid then circular arguments can stick with you like old bubblegum.

still it's no excuse for repeating Ramana Maharshi





From the pereson who thinks that "there is no gravity", "Earth elves are descended from moon elves," and countless other insane views, are

redgreenvines said:
good education


redgreenvines said:
good education


redgreenvines said:
good education



you do not have a good track record of what is good, or what is true.

:sun:


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I didn't draw this.

"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
:heart:

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Re: Take the time [Re: life is good]
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Now let's get back on topic?  This is what is called distraction --

Taking your time is the topic.


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I didn't draw this.

"Hope your day is as wonderful, loving, and kind as you are."
:heart:

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Re: Take the time [Re: akira_akuma]
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akira_akuma said:
the elemental Alien Constants: Velocity, Force, Acceleration,  Momentum,  they represent a due course of action in Bullets, as well as [Alien Elements] (ie, Xeno-properties, or, "Other").
the fifth element is an obfuscated one that I can seemingly only define as 'Movement'.


i'm curiouser to know more about this 'Movement.'

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Re: Take the time [Re: thealienthatategod]
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thealienthatategod said:
I sent you guys a message with my mind, did you get it?


You told me that you loved me and wanted me to have all of your stuff. :heart:


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Re: Take the time [Re: life is good] * 1
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life is good said:
Now let's get back on topic?  This is what is called distraction --

Taking your time is the topic.


You in a hurry?


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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I had my watch stolen. :frown:


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Re: Take the time [Re: OrgoneConclusion]
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“Time takes it all, whether you want it to or not.”
― Stephen King


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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BTW, good to see you back on the board. :smile:


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rahz

comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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"In small proportion we just beauties see;

And in short measures, life may perfect be."

--Ben Jonson

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Re: Take the time [Re: DividedQuantum]
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We frequently find the present moment uncomfortable and often create stress by wanting time to "pass" as we yearn for some future moment, when we will be content and satisfied. We wait for the day to end. We wait for the week to end. We wait for vacation. We wait in line at the grocery store. We wait in traffic.

DividedQuantum said:
If there's one thing I've learned in life, it's that there ain't really any goddamn hurry.


Feeling "busy" is an anxious state of mind related the inability and or unwillingness to be present in the moment.

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Re: Take the time [Re: RJ Tubs 202]
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my experience of time is as a sequence of presences, some of which extend, and others flutter.


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Re: Take the time [Re: redgreenvines]
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So instances in time are prone to adaptation or otherwise evolution..

Memetics..

Or otherwise survival of the fittest.. things that carry on are worthy.. things that disipate are not?

At least with our acting consciousness.


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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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newsflash son, our time here is short.  we are only here for a blink of an eye, in the perspective of time.  so dont just do something, stand there.


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When telling the truth becomes an act of treason, and society chooses delusion and deception over fundamental reality, you've been invaded and infiltrated by other beings that have now integrated into your country and community.  Bless our reptile overlords who control, harvest, and eat us.

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Re: Take the time [Re: BrendanFlock]
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BrendanFlock said:
things that carry on are worthy.. things that disipate are not?



not at all:
what seems to persist in mind has associative regeneration, it is actually not persisting but restarting  and resonating - perception/memory reactivates the mental object(s).
eventually the afterglow dissolves the mental form.
all things arise and fade, but the miracle of memory lets them live again, if only for a few moments.

this is not analogous to genetics, or evolution.
the idea of meme is not one I am that fond of except as the core idea behind the human activity known as gossip.


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Re: Take the time [Re: redgreenvines]
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I was talking about the difference between what we consciously focus on(which is partially based on choice) vs the things that get relegated to memory or lower conscious focus..


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Re: Take the time [Re: BrendanFlock]
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I think we have about 50% choice.. and then the other 50% is based on cause and effect which would essentially surmise this argument..


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Re: Take the time [Re: redgreenvines] * 1
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redgreenvines said:
what seems to persist in mind has associative regeneration, it is actually not persisting but restarting  and resonating - perception/memory reactivates the mental object(s).
eventually the afterglow dissolves the mental form. 


I tend to believe mind generates embers and our focus determines if the messages become wildfires.

The concept of positive feedback may apply here. Our focus can amplify the original impression.

I'm fascinated by the storytelling nature of mind. I don't recall events, but my narrative about what happened.

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Re: Take the time [Re: sprinkles] * 1
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sprinkles said:
newsflash son, our time here is short.  we are only here for a blink of an eye, in the perspective of time.  so dont just do something, stand there.


Dad is that you? :tongue:

I do agree that if you have dreams, better to try than let the time pass by. Then again, sometimes people need to loose themselves and wander to find something better.

The context of the OP was specific... sorry if I wasn't more clear but I did try to clear it up in subsequent posts. I think most everyone feels like they're in over their head sometimes. I also think anxiety is a form of energy that can be redirected into something more productive... but when there's no control to be found, better to take the time to slow down and be patient with one's self until that switch occurs.


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comfort pleasure power love     truth awareness peace I am      I feel      I do     I love  I speak    I see    I know

why there is reality and patterned, law-like consistency at all, rather than noise or non-reality is not a question physics answers. It's a question physics presupposes an answer to in order to provide other answers.

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Re: Take the time [Re: Rahz]
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that makes sense

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Re: Take the time [Re: redgreenvines]
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redgreenvines said:
that makes sense



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Why shouldn't the truth be stranger than fiction?
Fiction, after all, has to make sense. -- Mark Twain

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Re: Take the time [Re: thealienthatategod]
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thealienthatategod said:
akira_akuma said:
the elemental Alien Constants: Velocity, Force, Acceleration,  Momentum,  they represent a due course of action in Bullets, as well as [Alien Elements] (ie, Xeno-properties, or, "Other").
the fifth element is an obfuscated one that I can seemingly only define as 'Movement'.


i'm curiouser to know more about this 'Movement.'


the 'Movement' can be said to be an autonomous phenomenon of "the Other" or "Outside" as encountered either at the ethnosocial level, or individual level.

example: MAGA hats

https://twitter.com/TomFitton/status/1097345046481915905

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Re: Take the time [Re: akira_akuma]
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that doesn't make sense


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