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Re: A music observation [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said:
So he is THE most influential figure in THE LAST HALF A CENTURY because he designed a high-quality yet impractical sound system and was a drug dealer? :lol: aight man.


I think it could be argued that Owsley's acid was a huge influence on lots of musicians. The Beatles, the Dead, Jimi Hendrix, Bob Dylan, Jim Morrison, George Clinton, Bootsy Collins, the Beach Boys, Jefferson airplane, to name a few off the top of my head.
Plus the tech stuff.

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Re: A music observation [Re: musiclover420]
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If hippies didn't exist, the dead wouldn't exist. Period. No debate. It is their demographic. Not even up for question. Obviously their fan base isn't 100% hippies, I cant even believe that's what your point is :lol: but if they didn't have  hippies, they wouldn't exist. It is their target demographic and the only reason they gained any traction.

Their contributions did not have the impact you claim and were not the revolutionary turning points you think they are. By any means. And they would probably agree with me. Their contributions were minor in scale and it is open to debate whether or not they were even the ones to spawn an increased focus on equipment quality and live sound, and I would make the argument that they obviously were not.

I repeat, made a high quality sound system that ended up being impractical. The guy was not a hero lol. He was not a historical figure. He is a brief footnote at best when discussing the history of music. To use any of the 'contributions' you guys are spouting as evidence of why they are "one of the greatest and most influential bands of all time" is frankly absurd. These are more things you would put on a resume to look good a sound engineer, not shit you tout as being turning point in music history lolol. Extreme exaggeration.


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Re: A music observation [Re: Near Dylan]
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I hate that musicians cant use samples anymore.


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Re: A music observation [Re: foragedfungus]
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Fuckin ridiculous. Was Kurt Cobain's heroin dealer an influential figure in music history then? Lol please. Being the salesmen for a product that may or may not have given the artist inspiration has no bearing on personal clout and influence. A deaf retard can sell drugs to someone, that doesn't mean shit. Drugs don't make you a good musician. You have to already be one. And even if drugs did just grant automatic talent and innovative ideas, that doesn't mean the dealer deserves any credit for whatever ideas the artist musters up while getting high.


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Re: A music observation [Re: Near Dylan]
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If Kurt and every other dopehead in america were all being supplied by one guy.
And that one guy was doing it because he believed heroin was the greatest thing ever and he needed to make enough for millions of people to try it. And he made sure to give some to all the major musicians, authors, and movie stars of the time.
And we publicly knew who he was
Then yeah, he'd be considered an influential figure.

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Re: A music observation [Re: foragedfungus]
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:facepalm:


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Re: A music observation [Re: Near Dylan]
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Near Dylan said:
Youre delusional :lol:

The dead are big because of hippies and only hippies. Without hippies, the Dead would be nothing. If a band would be absolutely nothing if they lost one single demographic, they probably aren't fair to put up along the "best who ever lived". Led Zepplin can lose 5 entire demographics and still be one of the biggest band that ever lived. Same with stones, beatles, etc. If the Dead lost hippies, they would cease to exist entirely. This is not "stereotyping". It is a fact. It is hippie music for hippies and will never be considered as some of the best music ever made, and that is one of the primary reasons. They could not reach a wider demographic because they did not try. The Greatful Dead would never even think to identify themselves as some of the greatest ever because they know how hilarious of a statement that is.

Big following =/= influential =/= some of the best music ever. All of the three are completely separate from each other. Dead has a big following. Period. And as I said, they're cntributions to recording and touring ethos were not nearly significant enough to place them on a pedestal as pioneers. Not even close. I get they probably have a soft spot for you, but if you think that "no one compares to the grateful dead" then you are musically naïve as fuck.


I mean, bro, they are mostly famous for how bad they are and how toxic of a fan base they have. Not remembered by the masses because of their music but because of their bad reputation as one-dimensional artists. That does not speak wonders for their legacy lol. They are a punchline band. Like Nickleback. 


You obviously don't know about music or the Dead.and Led Zepplin stole all of their music.

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Re: A music observation [Re: Asante]
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Asante said:
I hate that musicians cant use samples anymore.


Haha yeah because they’re not good enough musicians to come up with something original that sounds good, it’s either p funk and steely dan samples or clicks and beeps. The pop music today is hideously unlistenable and rap has only gotten worse and worse. Thanks douchebags for trivializing musicianship with your stupid machines to the point that nobody even knows what musicianship is anymore unless they are a real musician

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Re: A music observation [Re: mendocino_beano]
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The Wall of Sound is a music production technique for pop and rock music recordings developed by record producer Phil Spector at Gold Star Studios during the 1960s.

Spector, working with audio engineers such as Larry Levine, created a dense, layered, and reverberant sound that reproduced well on AM radio and jukeboxes popular in the era. He created this sound by having a number of electric and acoustic guitarists perform the same parts in unison, adding musical arrangements for large groups and/or orchestral musicians, and then recording the sound using an echo chamber.


The term “wall of sound” first appeared in print in the New York Times on June 22nd 1874, in a description of Richard Wagner’s redesigned Nibelungen Theater in Bayreuth, Germany, which placed the orchestra (for the first time, it seems) in a deep orchestra pit out of sight of the audience. (Previously, the orchestra had been placed in front of the stage, at the same level as the audience and in plain view).

“The mere sinking of the orchestra is, however, not the only innovation. Wagner leaves there, a space of eighteen feet wide, and extending the entire breadth of the stage (not merely of the proscenium) and extending up to the roof, perfectly free. He calls this the Mystic Space, because he intends that here the invisible ‘wall of music,’ proceeding from the invisible orchestra, shall separate the real (that is the audience) from the ideal (the stage pictures.) If we may so express ourselves, the audience will perceive the scenes through an invisible wall of sound.”

The term became popularly used around 1955 to describe sound of the jazz orchestra led by Stan Kenton, with its booming trombone, trumpet and percussion sections.

The term “Wall of Sound” was also used to describe the enormous public address system designed by Owsley Stanley specifically for the Grateful Dead’s live performances circa 1974. The Wall of Sound fulfilled the band’s desire for a distortion-free sound system that could also serve as its own monitoring system. Raymond Scott nicknamed the vast array of homemade sequencers and synthesizers that took up a wall of his studio the “wall of sound.”


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Re: A music observation [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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I also want to add that it seems like the really creative period for music has gone and the last real creative period was the 90's, and that was starting to get crappy to me by the end of the decade. 50's-90's are the best so far for creativity and innovation.


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Re: A music observation [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Music is incredibly creative nowadays. You just have to know where to look. There are more sounds to create than ever before, easier to do than ever before, and more people are making it than ever before. Of course that will lead to heaps and heaps of garbage. But sometimes, it can spawn some reallll gems.


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Re: A music observation [Re: Near Dylan]
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I like the old sound of simple 3-5 piece bands playing real instruments and maybe one keyboard (not excessive). 102.3 plays "new music" here in CO, but they seem to be geared toward folk music and the like mostly, yuck!

dressy bessy
sonic youth
the pixies

I like this vein and style of music a lot, but I also like different stuff, but rock mainly. "College radio" or "alternative" seems to be a moniker which describes what I like sometimes. I hear it sometimes on 102.3 and try to remember the name of the band when I stop driving, lol. It's very sporadic.


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Re: A music observation [Re: Near Dylan]
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I agree, but I'm not hooked up to spotify or itunes etc...I rely on the NPR station to turn me on to good local music or semi underground stuff.

I want to add PJ harvy and such as bands I like for "college radio" type stuff.
Local band here, I saw them last year, they are OK, not the best, but I like this simple rock type stuff.


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Re: A music observation [Re: tyrannicalrex]
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Kind of an indie/grungish guy, eh?

Youve probably heard of them already, but Cage the Elephant may be up your wheelhouse, and their albums like Thank You, Happy Birthday are really good. Listen to something like Shake me Down and lemme know what you think, they're veryy Pixies influenced. 

Another band I'd reccomend is maybe something like the Distillers? Not exactlyyy what you may be into but some songs may be up your ally and I have a big soft spot for that band, like them a lot. Listen to something like The Hunger maybe.

Also for sure check out "Ty Segall" and "Jay Reatard". I think you might enjoy them.

Im trying to get kindaaa close to your taste, but not spot-on, and something that's a little different ya kno. If you got a reallll open taste in music, here are some bands/artists that I would consider to be 'modern' and very creative. All different types.

SWANS
Daughters
Death Grips
Thee Oh Sees
System of a Down (bear with me lol, they got some real good and unique shit)
Deerhoof
Hella


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Re: A music observation [Re: Near Dylan]
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System of a down is great! Toxicity is rockin"! I can listen to that and then go listen to the smiths/morrisy.:shrug: I like making cd's like that to really fuck peoples heads up at parties,lol.


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