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FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already?
    #25770371 - 01/26/19 03:46 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Hey.
So this brf cake was consolidating for a little longer ant took a little longer to colonise. I saw one yellow spot but hoped it was just myc piss. When placed in fc it got white again but today I saw some discoloration appear again... I cant really tell if its blue or green but there is definately some yellow/brown too. SO this is how it looks now from the top.




Jar also produced one mushroom before birth, which when placed in fc broke his vail pretty soon and got all twisted up.





I saw it was getting darker but I couldnt really tell if its deep dark blue or rotting black, i picked it off the cake... here it is btw in macro shot:






I also removed one aborted mushroom which looked promising but today I saw its cap all black and vail broken...it also looks that I have damaged one pin...




So what do you think? is this hazardous and I should get rid of this whole cake? I'm afraid I do... :frown:



Also,
this is another project with coco coir / verm sub for bulk. do you think it looks like its contamed by cobweb or some kind of ugly thing? Cause it colonized fast and I see some microscopic pins but no fruiting for way too long:(


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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: 88888888]
    #25770598 - 01/26/19 05:48 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Looks like too little air and not enough moisture..your container needs to let air in, and you need to mist the cake until it glistens, around once per day. Did you dunk the cake for 12hr+ when you birthed it?

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25770614 - 01/26/19 05:59 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

yes I dunked them.
Jeez,I'm such a noob, I thought that by saying "dont mist your cakes directly" the tek  meant NOT TO get cakes to glisten, only to do the walls and keep the perlite damp... like I thought there should be no water drops on them directly ... I'll go mist above the cake instead of around it then. Thanks!

Any other comments?
I hope it will get better

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: 88888888]
    #25771055 - 01/26/19 11:54 PM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Your cakes look fine other than reaching for FAE. 


As for misting the cakes.  I aim for the sides of the SGFC.  I then fan the little bit of moisture away that fell on the cakes.  if you wet your cakes, you will be fanning forever to get that moisture off.  Misting is us used to initiate pinning not hydrating cakes.

Sad the shroom grew sideways, peeling the veil and separating at the bottom from the cake.


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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: pickle jar pete]
    #25771195 - 01/27/19 02:07 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Guys - Mist your cakes..That mist the sides idea was BS back then and doesn't work but still it prevails because the search function pulls it up..Mushrooms need moisture, they are 92% water..Humidity only controls the rate of evaporation from a substrate. If you don't you'll end up with tiny mushrooms

Fanning is not required, you should have constant FAE from a suitable SGFC, your target is to mist once, which should then evaporate by the next day ready to mist again. If you mist once per day, have a temp between 65-75, in a normally lit room you'll get decent mushrooms. That's as complex as it gets

These have all been misted daily, results speak louder than words:thumbup:


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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25771374 - 01/27/19 04:30 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Thenks for the input!
So I misted the cake and this morning water has evaporated , so I misted again. But the yellowish and bluish colorings on the cake got more intense. I never thought it is so hard to distinguish bewteen blue and green colours. Is this normal in this case? I hope I'm paranoid


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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: 88888888]
    #25771414 - 01/27/19 04:58 AM (5 years, 2 months ago)

Bruising..when you mist do it from a distance..think of outside like a cold autumn morning, just let it fall naturally, just need a few bursts as inside the cake there's lots of moisture locked up, this is just to wet the few mm of the surface, as evaporation triggers pinning, and drives mushrooms to swell as they suck up the moisture

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25776539 - 01/29/19 11:28 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)



now it looks like this. I dont know dude is this really just bruising? looks darker without a flash ;/

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: 88888888]
    #25776660 - 01/29/19 12:32 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Hard to tell, the flash is over highlighting the surface, can you take a picture with it just brightly lit instead of the flash?

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25776783 - 01/29/19 01:25 PM (5 years, 1 month ago)



I did mist from a distance, not directly. It still got this discoloration

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: 88888888]
    #25778312 - 01/30/19 04:00 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

here are better pics in daylight. hopefully its better to see.



from the side:



so... I guess its time to pick this gnome? But im worried if this would be safe to consume from such discolored cake

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: 88888888]
    #25778549 - 01/30/19 07:15 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Just looks really dry..when it looks dry give it a mist until it glistens, and when it dries again repeat

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25780876 - 01/31/19 09:15 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

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Shroomspective said:
Just looks really dry..when it looks dry give it a mist until it glistens, and when it dries again repeat




does the same advice apply to a dry monotub substrate? i.e a dry bulk substrate, keep misting till it gets rubbery almost?

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: Betax86]
    #25781019 - 01/31/19 10:11 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

If your mono is dry before first flush, then likely your coir wasn't at field capacity, or you haven't dialled it in properly. Once the first flush is done then rehydrate it in the shower or something for an hour

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Re: FIRST TIMER Is this a failed attempt and should I toss it already? [Re: Shroomspective]
    #25781166 - 01/31/19 10:59 AM (5 years, 1 month ago)

Im gonna try a second flush out of this cake, dunk it and try again, this time with proper misting. COuld it work or should I  just start all over again and toss this dark cake to make sure my place is free of contams?

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