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Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro
    #25778359 - 01/30/19 07:00 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Anyone had any experince with either?


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: BlazeGlassDabs] * 2
    #25778363 - 01/30/19 07:02 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

I have experience with cactus snot San Pedro.

Its the best psychedelic I know, and I know a good number firsthand.

No doubt I would love isolated or synthetic Mescaline even more.


I'm not hung up on plants, particularly, even as a spiritual user. The psychedelic molecule is the physical body of the spirit you interact with when you eat a spirit plant anyway.


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: Asante]
    #25778374 - 01/30/19 07:14 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Ive just heard theres other chemicals that go hand and hand with the more "organic" side of it


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: BlazeGlassDabs] * 1
    #25778382 - 01/30/19 07:23 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

San pedro is one of the most natural psychedelic drugs Ive ever done. i call it "Nature Acid" cause thats kinda what it feels like. Highly recommend trying it.

Never done synthetic mescaline thou so cant compare :shrug:


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 2
    #25778479 - 01/30/19 08:37 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Mescaline isolate and raw/cactus tea are not the same thing. Lots of experience comparing the two over the years.
IME tea is much better. However mescaline is nice because it’s so easy to dose and nausea/cactus gut isn’t bad, and it does give you happy vibes. So with that said it’s nice to have both available for any given opportunity.

The amount of chemicals our beloved cacti produce is astounding even more so how closely they are to mescaline. Picking one out of the bunch and leaving the rest is like picking one terp or CBD like molecule out of weed and calling it the weed experience.


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: pinedownpioneer] * 1
    #25778488 - 01/30/19 08:44 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

These pictures are from a great book about peyote. I won’t be surprised if trichocereus has a very similar chemical profile.  :cactuarrun:



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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: pinedownpioneer] * 1
    #25778527 - 01/30/19 09:07 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

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picking one terp or CBD like molecule out of weed and calling it the weed experience.



Thats what my thought was


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: pinedownpioneer] * 1
    #25778528 - 01/30/19 09:07 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Cactus tea definitely has more physical/pns effects than isolated mesc IME.


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: BlazeGlassDabs]
    #25778546 - 01/30/19 09:13 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

How does peyote compare to san


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: BlazeGlassDabs] * 1
    #25778575 - 01/30/19 09:32 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

I've only tried peyote once, but it was more emetic and tachycardiac and even produced slight delerium on the comeup which I've never had from any other source of mesc. Definitely less enjoyable to me.


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: BlazeGlassDabs] * 1
    #25778584 - 01/30/19 09:36 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Mescaline is also my all time favourite drug in the world; and I've done heaps of it, both sythetic and personally extracted using 69Ron's D-Limonene Tek.

I prefer a full spectrum extraction because it has other alkaloids/qualities that you don't get with synthetic. Gives the experience a more dreamlike and euphoric quality, IMO.

However I haven't seen synthetic on the market in years, so one is kinda stuck (in a good way) with taking the plant or extracting (I recommend the latter).


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: BlazeGlassDabs] * 1
    #25778664 - 01/30/19 10:56 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

I'm embarking on a cactus journey in a few weeks and turning 3 others on for their first time with it. I have some proscaline and some escaline but still have not tried either. I'm wondering if I should embellish my cactus tar with one of these...


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
    #25778667 - 01/30/19 10:58 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

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Mescaline is also my all time favourite drug in the world; and I've done heaps of it, both sythetic and personally extracted using 69Ron's D-Limonene Tek.


I prefer a full spectrum extraction because it has other alkaloids/qualities that you don't get with synthetic. Gives the experience a more dreamlike and euphoric quality, IMO.

However I haven't seen synthetic on the market in years, so one is kinda stuck (in a good way) with taking the plant or extracting (I recommend the latter).




Do you usally get it in pre dried chuncks or in powder form


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 1
    #25778673 - 01/30/19 11:00 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

As far as comparing the 2, I haven't done pure mescaline that I know of, it was in nestles quick and called chocolate mescaline back in the 80's and 90's and I only did it twice. Then forward to recent years I found a cactus in a store and it turned out to be fairly active at 30g dried green outer dewaxed skins. I have done this twice. Making up 50g dried skins per person, so should be a pretty good dose. I did use only 78g of my cactus and 100g of some powdered bridgesii, and 25g of some powdered peruvian torch ordered offline. I ordered from the same place as last time for powdered peruvian torch and that was pretty active at 75g. Every time I have done any "mescaline" it has been a great time.


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: tyrannicalrex] * 2
    #25778678 - 01/30/19 11:06 AM (2 years, 29 days ago)

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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: BlazeGlassDabs]
    #25778760 - 01/30/19 12:07 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

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Do you usally get it in pre dried chuncks or in powder form



Either or. Can dry fresh (outer skin only) and perform TEK too. I have a good ten ft in live cactus waiting for the day I decide to harvest some.

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I'm wondering if I should embellish my cactus tar with one of these...



I don't think so, not from the beginning at least. Mescal is too beautiful by itself. I often add a 2Cx compound towards the end of a mescal trip, but I like the purity of the cactus to start.


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
    #25778775 - 01/30/19 12:15 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

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Mescaline is also my all time favourite drug in the world; and I've done heaps of it, both sythetic and personally extracted using 69Ron's D-Limonene Tek.

I prefer a full spectrum extraction because it has other alkaloids/qualities that you don't get with synthetic. Gives the experience a more dreamlike and euphoric quality, IMO.

However I haven't seen synthetic on the market in years, so one is kinda stuck (in a good way) with taking the plant or extracting (I recommend the latter).





I cant thank you enough for this.  This is one of my biggest bucket list things.  One day :smile:


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    #25778788 - 01/30/19 12:20 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Good thread. Thanks for the link JSB, bookmarked.


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    #25778794 - 01/30/19 12:22 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

Look at the beautiful crystals that TEK produces too!!



God I love that feeling like I'm playing with a Chemistry set back when I was eight years old all over again...


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Re: Synthetic mescaline vs san pedro [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
    #25778800 - 01/30/19 12:24 PM (2 years, 29 days ago)

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Look at the beautiful crystals that TEK produces too!!



God I love that feeling like I'm playing with a Chemistry set back when I was eight years old all over again...




This is so happening for me one day.  Been wanting to do this for 15 years.

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