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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Salomon]
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i mean I guess it is, otherwise that's like cosmic rape.


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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Salomon] * 1
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in the end does it even matter?......rip chester <3


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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: spirit_shadow] * 1
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Dunno but that mouse sure in enjoying whatever he is eating.


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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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I accept I have an experience of something that is quite real. Is objective perception possible? I am pretty sure it is not.

I know everything I perceive is by definition limited/formatted by my biological make-up and the result of the way my consciousness has been constructed since birth. The flower I see is not the flower you see.


From a practical point of view however even a metaphysical peanutbutter and jelly sandwhich is still a peanutbutter and jelly sandwhich :shrug:


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A philosopher is a person who knows less and less about more and more, until he knows nothing about everything.


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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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Jokeshopbeard said:
By other realities, do you mean the realities of the other people we meet, or something else?




i'm not sure anyone can define,

anyone else's reality,

while you're still somebody.


instead, let's use our own changing, observable mental states (that are perceiving reality)

and more specifically, the realities that we encounter on psychedelics.


(also choosing vision as organ of perception, as seeing is believing)


for example, when you see a wall while tripping,

why is the wall moving and shifting?


can we say the wall is moving because reality has shifted to a different state?

and is it reality itself that has shifted or just the observers observations, or both, or just YES.

everything in motion the real vs. the relative, and who's driving who?


in this particular state of reality,

you now have perceptions that allow you to be aware of how walls shift.

in that moment,

you accept that this is all reality, that the walls have always been shifting,

and that you just weren't able to see it before,

because you see now, that this must be the way that reality is.


the drugs wear off and your perception goes back to (baseine).

the walls no longer shift.

the imprint of the other realities magic lingers for a few days, may be months,

but as soon as the drugs effects wore off you could no longer see the wall shifting.



is there an advantage to accepting that this reality is just as real as the one that you currently inhabit?

and as you say, to fully accept it,

with an acceptance of no lesser degree?

would this take away or add to the acceptance of the first reality that you accepted?


to walk between worlds.

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: thealienthatategod] * 1
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I gave up on trying to figure shit out after seeing an alien spaceship fly over real slow and low.

There is no point in questioning anything anymore.

You wanna change the world?

Ha! Good fucking luck going up against those shape shifting UFO flying assholes.


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Edited by PumpJackTeX (01/31/19 02:18 PM)

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: HappySloth]
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HappySloth said:
Most people are very far from accepting reality.

Do you shout when a driver cuts you off?  or just accept it has happened?



Amen!

It's one of the fascinating aspects of being human. Wishing things were different than they are.

We actually sit around and complain about "bad weather"?! Another species might call that insane!

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Jokeshopbeard said:
Or are you still fighting against it/struggling with it?



What is reality?

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: PumpJackTeX]
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TexXx said:
I gave up on trying to figure shit out after seeing an alien spaceship fly over real slow and low.

There is no point in questioning anything anymore.

You wanna change the world?

Ha! Good fucking luck going up against those shape shifting UFO flying assholes.



So because the UFO can shap shift, its an asshole? :confused:

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
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The word "reality" can send some folks swan-diving down the rabbit hole. How about something like this...

Have we fully accepted every painful event in our history, without aversion? Have we accepted that we will not get everything we want and we will get some things we don't want? Have we accepted that people we love will occasionally let us down or betray us, and that we cause ourselves and others to suffer? Have we accepted that we will lose everyone we care about or they will lose us first? Are we totally comfortable about the real possibility we could die tomorrow?   

OK, I'll stop. I don't mean to put words in your mouth JSB. Just my 2 cents.


“The boundary to what we can accept is the boundary to our freedom.”

Tara Brach

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: RockyRaccoon] * 1
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As I said previously:

Jokeshopbeard said:
It is what it is to you. It's your whole self, every part that you've discovered, and the whole world, every part that you've discovered.

Only a fool would assume he 'knows' what is there, waiting, laying, undiscovered.

Nonetheless, in each of our current states and individual perceptions of existence, it is still a reasonable question to ask:

'Have you accepted it?'

Think more of the question as pertaining to your entire [human] experience, thus far. Every facet of everything you know about you, and the people in your life, and the world that surrounds them, and the universe that surrounds that; all of the things of which you are both aware and unaware.

Have you fully accepted it?



It is what it is to you. We are not capable of interpreting objective reality, not with these brains, and so we all interpret the thin slice we see differently. So reality is as unique to each of us as we are unique ourselves.

Perhaps I would have avoided this confusion if I titled the thread 'Have you accepted YOUR reality?'

I accept this was an oversight on my part.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 2
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Dont worry Jokeshop, when u pass over into the spirit world, this reality will make a lot more sense.

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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Meh. I feel an exact 50/50 chance of that happening - past this life will be everything or nothing - the great unknown, the greatest adventure there is.

If it's everything; well then that's gonna be fucking amazing. And if it's nothing, that will be equally amazing; I just won't know it.

Either way, I'm excited about it. My only real wish is that I go there in a ball of flames.


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Let it be seen that you are nothing. And in knowing that you are nothing... there is nothing to lose, there is nothing to gain. What can happen to you? Something can happen to the body, but it will either heal or it won't. What's the big deal? Let life knock you to bits. Let life take you apart. Let life destroy you. It will only destroy what you are not.
--Jac O'keeffe

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: LogicaL Chaos] * 1
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We’re still part of the animal kingdom..  :smilingpuppy:

It’ll be a trip to go invisible again.  I hope it doesn’t hurt too bad..:uhoh:


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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Jokeshopbeard]
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Doubt is always negative.  Positive adds.  You know what I’m saying.

There’s no way this is an accident, I think people just get misled and forget.


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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Jokeshopbeard] * 1
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I hope u die in a spectualar fashion. But i do not hope thie happens for a looooooong time.

If yer going down, might as well go down Independence Style :yesnod:

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Amanita86] * 2
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But what is reality?

Another example from when I was profoundly influenced on a carefully crafted mixture of Deep Trance Meditation, Dissociation and Madness over the holidays:


I was sitting in my chair wonking out when I got visited by a spirit I knew who cheerfully said: "Hey -name- I want to do a transformation with you, are you game?"

I was like: "A transformation of what?"

"A transformation of your body. No, we're not going down that werewolf path today, I have something else in mind entirely. Do you remember when you as a kid used to say: 'He-Man that's ME man!'?"

"Uhuh?"

"BOMBS AWAY!"

At that moment, to full conviction of my being, my body transformed to a rendition  of 1980s He-Man. Shoulders broadened and thickened (beyond my already impressive 2ft shoulderwidth), my arms bulged with epic muscle, my hands, my god my hands became HUGE, my belly shrank (but only halfway) legs bulged with muscle, feet broadened to twice the width.

The bastard turned me into action figure He-Man though, with all the imperfections of a piece of 1980s plastic. The authenticity of it was uncanny though, it looked exactly like that, shapewise, except in my own skin which had inflated to mr universe proportions.

I got up out of my chair and marvelled at it as the transformation carried on. I was naked at the time (skyclad meditation) and it was all plain to see. As a finishing touch I grew the fur trunks and the chest shield before my amazed eyes. I looked at it, I looked at it in the mirror, I totally saw it. I put my hand on it and felt it.

I gasped: "How subjective is this?!"

"All reality is subjective to its observers. You know, you should totally do the I Have The Power thing with your Wakizashi sword, you owe this to your inner child, if only for hinting to you that He Man was gonna be You Man. He kinda knew this would happen. Now go to the sequence!"

That was good fun so I did. Exhilarating.

Then the spirit suddenly said: "OK, now YOU have the Power, and I'M outta here!"

And gone!

"Get back here! I'm disfigured! My clothes don't even fit! Get me back to how I was damn you!"

Nothing.

I was saddened at what had happened with my body and blurted out: "In today's episode, He-Man found out he wanted to be nothing but Me Man, but his partner in crime shafted him with a prank leaving it to God to fix. Um, halp? Lord?"

I got seriously upset and called out to my main spirit guide, who reassured me that  it would remain for the rest of the night but that I would sleep it off.

So the rest of the night I carried on looking every bit like He-Man, chest harness and fur pants and all. It was literally out of this world and the reassurance made it enjoyable.

The next morning my body was normal but I was stuck with epic big hands. This I enjoyed. My best friend diplomatically told me he "wasn't quite sure whether he saw it". Lol.

My main spirit guide explained later that what I saw and felt was subjective for my eyes only, but that magic is possible to be subjective to a group of observers, paving the way to werewolf and shaman-to-animal transformations and biblical miracles. I asked whether if a shaman transforms to a hawk, whether he can fly. Apparently yes, in his reality and in the reality of the observers he imposes it on.

"All reality is subjective to the observers. If you're in a group of people or alone doesn't matter in subjectivity other than in the number of instances of it. Oh, he [the spirit] wanted to do the thing with the lightning and turn himself into Battlecat and transform your surroundings but you were holding a sharp sword in real life and were not yet ready for that kind of awe."

"Uhuh!"

"In your trance you bring yourself in a state where you start dreaming while awake, and when the dreaming reality is primarily manifest, it superimposes its reality over ordinary waking reality. Thing is, they are both competing levels of reality, separate but equal, and not just subjective to a single person. Shared dreams, Folie a deux, religious miracles."

What is Reality? Is it solely in the eyes of the beholders?

So there. I witnessed with all my senses a full bodily transformation to something else entirely. For a few hours actually, He-Man WAS Me Man, chest shield and all, and I was dreaming harder than I was waking - while awake.

I really wouldn't have wanted that plastic fantastic body though, not for keeps. I want to make the most of my waking body into what it is, not what it isn't. I totally accept Magic as part of that though, so if I lose 100lbs overnight you'll get a selfie along with the tall tale :smile:

I totally see the Werewolf thing now. I could have transformed to full werewolf mode and felt the fur, snout and fangs with my fingers or seen it reflected in a mirror. You could say "ah but the trick is that others see it!" but um, match what I did plz and we'll talk about what the trick is ^_^

Its embarrasing to share but hey, one more victory over shyness.
He-Man, was Me, Man!






Yup, does sound like full immersion hypnosis, doesn't it? :yesnod:
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Hypnodelic therapy

Hypnodelic therapy, as the name suggests, was developed with the goal to maximize the power of hypnotic suggestion by combining it with the psychedelic experience. After training the patient to respond to hypnosis, LSD would be administered, and during the onset phase of the drug the patient would be placed into a state of trance. Levine and Ludwig found the combination of these techniques to be more effective than the use of either of these two components separately.[37]




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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: Asante] * 2
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Damn jokesbears why ya gotta hit us with the hardest questions? I’m sittin here thinking about it like :knockmeonmyass:

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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: LogicaL Chaos]
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LogicaL Chaos said:
TexXx said:
I gave up on trying to figure shit out after seeing an alien spaceship fly over real slow and low.

There is no point in questioning anything anymore.

You wanna change the world?

Ha! Good fucking luck going up against those shape shifting UFO flying assholes.



So because the UFO can shap shift, its an asshole? :confused:



No they are assholes for not landing and letting me ride around with them just up there showing off like assholes.


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Re: Have you accepted reality? [Re: PumpJackTeX] * 1
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Yes.
Just game from vet. Had to let my best friend go to final journey.
Accepting death.
Hardcore training on the subject.
Not much help on resisting or struggling against things like these.
Life at its raw form.
Well came to my world in my lap. And leaved the same way.
Something beatifull in that.


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